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: Each adult has a choice who to turn to for medical care. Can go to an MD, an : ND, a DC, a DO…..do ANY of them treat for free? *** Your point is? — Carol …. *Lorena Bobbit Virus – Turns your hard disk into a 3.5" floppy.*

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: Definitely so. Martha Christy especially recommends urine as an eye : wash in her great book, "Your Own Perfect Medicine," (Self Healing : Press, 1994, $19.95). $$$ Think how nice you can smell by bathing in it!  Like a dirty urinal. Have you tried using it as bath water yet?  You can save $$$ by saving tap water without it’s magic (and smelly) waste products.  How about cooking with it?  You’ll save even more.  Hey,.. we can write a book… "Stop Wasting Water by Using Urine", and make a lot of $$$.  BTW how much are you making per book sold per your posts? — Carol …. Tonya Harding Virus – Turns your .BAT files into lethal weapons.* : : Bob

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: : Methinks you’re being facetious. *** To some extent yes.  :o)  Just can’t help myself. : : Actually it is great for bathing with — it’s antibacterial properties : and natural skin softening ability makes it much better than a harsh : soap product. Perhaps that is a reason why there is so much skin : cancer? *** I don’t think so.  Skin cancer caused by soaps?  Nahhhh…. People wash away their natural body oils on a daily basis and : then wonder why they are so much more prone to UV damaged skin. *** UV goes right through oils.  And if you don’t remove the oils and dead skin cells along with the bacteria and other life forms from your skin you will STINK!  Simple as that.    Take : heart though, "Yarrow," I enjoy reading your comments. It never ceases : to amaze me how people can criticize alternative health practices they : have never tried. *** Sorry but only a very strange person would hear about URINE and then drink it and bathe in it.  Normal people have a normal aversion to body waste – it’s just instinctive. It is amazing such people have it in them to condemn : something they cannot prove either on the basis of firsthand experience : or from current medical literature. *** We’re not guinea pigs.  As long as just about anyone can find drinkable water they will quite naturally be disgusted by drinking/bathing/cooking with urine. I say don’t knock it if you haven’t : tried it, and don’t give me the usual, "bet you’d eat shit too" : response. *** I never said that but there are quacks that think feces taste good and contain minerals and other fine things <*GAG*. Urine and feces have nothing in common. Urine is a product of : the kidneys. *** Right.  The kidneys remove waste from our bodies.  WASTE! Feces are a product of the digestive system. They are not : interchangeable. Get a clue, buddy. *** This is to absurd to comment on….   sheeeesh! — Carol …. *Paul Revere Virus… Warns of an impending virus infection: 1 if by LAN and 2 if by C: : Bob :

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Dear Sir or Madam, Methinks you’re being facetious.

Yeah, and methinks you’re being "fecetious" as in full of shit! Actually it is great for bathing with — it’s antibacterial properties and natural skin softening ability makes it much better than a harsh soap product. Perhaps that is a reason why there is so much skin cancer? People wash away their natural body oils on a daily basis and then wonder why they are so much more prone to UV damaged skin.

Many people die of skin cancer each year, this is true.  This is a terrible tragedy given that it is largely avoidable.  It is a greater tragedy when sharlatans make ridiculous generalizations about the inherent power of the excretory system.  Putting the body’s waste products all over the skin and treating the skin with an acid immersion are hardly the way to resolve "problem skin", much less prevent UV irradiation damage to pre-oncogenic nucleotide chains. Take heart though, "Yarrow," I enjoy reading your comments. It never ceases to amaze me how people can criticize alternative health practices they have never tried.

It is amazing to me that you can tout the benefits of something (an all-over urine bath) which you have not tried.  Or have you? It is amazing such people have it in them to condemn something they cannot prove either on the basis of firsthand experience or from current medical literature. I say don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it, and don’t give me the usual, "bet you’d eat shit too" response. Urine and feces have nothing in common. Urine is a product of the kidneys. Feces are a product of the digestive system. They are not interchangeable. Get a clue, buddy. Bob

Speaking of get a clue and the difference between urine and feces:  after you finish a typical dinner at home, what does your body produce?  Without getting too personal, mine produces urine and feces because of my alimentary intake. Keep in touch with yourself, Rocinante

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This is a FREE forum if you haven’t noticed… perhaps an EYE cleanse with some of the Urine you like so much. — Carol …. *Freudian Virus – Your PC becomes obsessed with it’s own motherboard and jealous of the size of your friend’s hard drive. : MR. CAROL’S STAR WARS NEWSLETTER. : : Mr. Carol’s practitioner rules for the practitionee of : misc.health.alternative newsgroup. : If you don’t like these rules at any time, you can leave this newsgroup : and do without Mr. Carol’s caring.

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: First a practical tip: Don’t use your real email-address. If you do, people : might bomb you with thousands of messages – or subscribe you to all the : mailinglists in the world. $$$ How did you ever guess?   : : : – If anybody offers a cure, information, a new thought on healing – : whatever – call them spamming MLM’ers. NEVER check their info or their : website – just be as sarcastic and mean as possible. This frightens a lot of : people. $$$ The quacks leave and the legitimate ones stay. : – Always ask for double-blind studies and the posters credentials. When the : poster asks for _your_ credentials just ignore it. If they ask you if you’ve : checked their website do likewise. $$$ I’ve checked several websites…. woolly worms by the gallons, magic cancer cures in Mexico, zappers that cure everything and Fountains of eternal Youth.  I’ve already posted credentials and no matter what a person is they’re never the RIGHT credentials for this NG.   : – Remember – NOTHING WORKS in alternative medicine. Nothing. Everybody ought : to stick to their MD. $$$ That’s your words – not mine. : – Ridicule them. If a person criticizes you – yell about their spelling. Or : their SIG-file. Or their name. $$$ Their sigfile?  Name? : – The phrase "Ha Ha. I cost you a sale now, you spamming MLM’er!" is great. $$$ It’s the spammers that hate being pointed out.  They want to quietly sell their crap here to the unsuspecting and gullible. : – If somebody gets too close with their criticism, just tell them "Use your : killfile if I am so awful!". Never mind that they will see your posts : anyway – when people reply to them. $$$ So ignore them.   : : : PS. This deals with a made-up person, male or female, which I have called : "Carol". No similarities exists with any person, living or dead. But this is : of course obvious – how could anybody post in a NG with so little knowledge : of Netiquette? $$$ Easy… wait till you lose a loved one because of a greedy, bloodsucking quack. — Carol …. *Freudian Virus – Your PC becomes obsessed with it’s own motherboard and jealous of the size of your friend’s hard drive. : : Haakon : : :

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I don’t see what your problem is Mr. Carol, he is just trying to help you out here. Your getting what you have been asking for, now sht or get off the pot. Geeee!  Many men stumble over truths, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened. [Winston Churchill] – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : First a practical tip: Don’t use your real email-address. If you do, people : might bomb you with thousands of messages – or subscribe you to all the : mailinglists in the world. $$$ How did you ever guess?   : : : – If anybody offers a cure, information, a new thought on healing – : whatever – call them spamming MLM’ers. NEVER check their info or their : website – just be as sarcastic and mean as possible. This frightens a lot of : people. $$$ The quacks leave and the legitimate ones stay. : – Always ask for double-blind studies and the posters credentials. When the : poster asks for _your_ credentials just ignore it. If they ask you if you’ve : checked their website do likewise. $$$ I’ve checked several websites…. woolly worms by the gallons, magic cancer cures in Mexico, zappers that cure everything and Fountains of eternal Youth.  I’ve already posted credentials and no matter what a person is they’re never the RIGHT credentials for this NG.   : – Remember – NOTHING WORKS in alternative medicine. Nothing. Everybody ought : to stick to their MD. $$$ That’s your words – not mine. : – Ridicule them. If a person criticizes you – yell about their spelling. Or : their SIG-file. Or their name. $$$ Their sigfile?  Name? : – The phrase "Ha Ha. I cost you a sale now, you spamming MLM’er!" is great. $$$ It’s the spammers that hate being pointed out.  They want to quietly sell their crap here to the unsuspecting and gullible. : – If somebody gets too close with their criticism, just tell them "Use your : killfile if I am so awful!". Never mind that they will see your posts : anyway – when people reply to them. $$$ So ignore them.   : : : PS. This deals with a made-up person, male or female, which I have called : "Carol". No similarities exists with any person, living or dead. But this is : of course obvious – how could anybody post in a NG with so little knowledge : of Netiquette? $$$ Easy… wait till you lose a loved one because of a greedy, bloodsucking quack. — Carol …. *Freudian Virus – Your PC becomes obsessed with it’s own motherboard and jealous of the size of your friend’s hard drive. : : Haakon : : :

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MR. CAROL’S STAR WARS NEWSLETTER. Mr. Carol’s practitioner rules for the practitionee of misc.health.alternative newsgroup. If you don’t like these rules at any time, you can leave this newsgroup and do without Mr. Carol’s caring.  The object of this post is to bring together a definitive document to cover Mr. Carol’s phenomena of one liners without calling him a troll that lives under the newsgroup bridge trying to destroy this NG. This is a weekly newsletter privilege from this guy Carol to keep you informed. Also see our new SPECIAL HIGH INTENSITY PROGRAM in a future issue. Features this week include: Mr. Carol’s upcoming bull sht: attaboy program: Benefits you get for terminating from this watering hole: Things to do today: Thought of the week: etc.. Remember readers, This newsletter has been born from over 1,00,000,000,000,000  worthless Mr. Carol’s newsgroup posts. Brief Description from Mr. Carol or whatever he wants to call himself these days with all the fake posts. * Never email Mr. Carol at home. Some of you ask why? Let me explain, he does not like this! * Carol does not take responsibility for anything, it is ok, for him to steal your dreams though as long as you don’t steal his. "O.K. to assume so though." * Always be more interested in Carols issues and problems than the watering hole’s future. * It is forbidden to say Mr. Carol’s has a problem, "it is O.K. for Mr. Carol to say this though. "After all Carol is only human: There will not be any exceptions to this rule at any time. * Do what Mr. Carol says; No arguments or disagreements,  Mr. Carol is always right, no apologies.  Mr Carol only qualifies as the official naysayer and doomsdayer of this newsgroup and only needs to explain with one liners. * Keep informed of what Carol states every hour all day, you can always make up the time reading other posts at night while he is asleep. * Not talking back to Mr. Carol’s posts is a good way to get an attaboy!   This does not apply to posts that could actually help someone. Taht is forbidden ! * If you have to post anyway, be ready to be pesterered by Mr. Carol with fake names and addresses, etc. The object his recreational trolling is to sit back and take all his gullible idiot posts  that will believe *anything*. * Always cover Mr. Carol’s SWAG (super wild ass guesses). This here can earn you some extra attaboys. He may say he is looking out for your interests may even sound  well-intentioned. It is ok to shudder to think where you will be if you listen to Mr. Carol’s posts, but it is forbidden to post that. * Do not post anything useful at any time, this means your own web pages or any other privileges or research that can be helpful, unless it is ok’d by Mr. Carol first. Exception: a nasty treacherous post to help run this newsgroup down may be acceptable; however talk with Mr. Carol on the NG first! * Understand that any post or re-search can and will be used against you with one liners. Remember it does not matter if you do have proof and or credentials, what Mr. Carol wants only matters. There will be no exception to this strict rule at any time. Proof does not count, only a big mouth to make him look better is worth attaboys. * For those of you that have lots of experience and education on your topic, remember that you can have as much as 20 pages of proof on your web page and still may be required to accept Mr. Carol’s unreasonable posts. Please realize Mr. Carol is full of  one liners. * Only Mr. Carol is allowed to be right without research and back up statements, take days, weeks, months, or an entire lifetime to collect re-search. That is up to you! Remember re-search  requests to her is strictly forbidden.  Have you earned your attaboys today! * All posts are always on Mr. Carol’s behalf,  any scheduled and or unreasonable posts using his big mouth will always be Mr. Carol’s policy to make their fault not his. No excuses at any time. * On "Carol’s" descretion; have a good post, but first check your accumulated attaboys. * Start looking at the watering hole consistently  for new rules, and policies and ideas coming in at random from Mr. Carol every day from now on. If you can’t be here or you missed it, it’s automatically your fault for not keeping up with at random changes. THE ATTABOY PROGRAM. For your performance in this outstanding program of Carol’s; you will be awarded – ONE ATTABOY- One thousand attaboys entitles you as newsgroup reader to have one decent post; free of Mr. Carol’s aggravating treachery. Remember in addition this means to take all the bull this guy Mr. Carol wants to shovel at you at any time, and take it with a smile, it is ok, if you can’t sleep because of the harassment from Mr. Carol. Details may differ between the time of the day and week,  Also moon phases. Having completed 1000 S.W.A.G. programs, all done successfully without re-posts, and all done with a smile, plus you must be looked upon as the ass hole. This has to be done without any testing involvement of Mr. Carol (incentive program). Of course that will not present a problem, everybody knows Mr. Carol does no wrong or take any responsibility at any time. NOTE:  "ONE AWSHIT" wipes the board clean, and the reader has to start all over again! Upon leaving the newsgroup: Criticism is greatly appreciated, screw you very much. To forgive is not the Mr. Carol’s policy, sorry no exceptions. After all Carol is only human! Now that you understand Mr. Carol’s benefit program, lets get started people!!!!! THINGS TO DO TODAY 1. Get organized 2. Post to Mr. Carol 3. Get organized 4. Re-post to Mr. Carol 5. Abandon entire idea 6. Talk to self Breaking any of these guidelines laid down by Mr. Carol will result in whatever she decides to post about you at ramdom until he feels satisfied.  With all the confusion Mr. Carol creates around here and not being able to defend yourself, maximum results can and will be used against you with minimum effort on Mr. Carol’s part. Be sure to get your copy of  your privileged "MR. CAROL’S STAR WARS NEWSGROUP NEWSLETTER" misc.alternative.health newsletter each week, we are sure that Mr. Carol’s STAR WARS will be as crammed full as last week. THOUGHTS OF THE WEEK. Do not converse with Mr. Carol! The more you explain the more he doesn’t understand. This can be spontaneous. 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I’m sure a lot of you out there wish that you too could be like Carol – so wellspoken, so well-read, so much wit and intelligence. Well, I’ve tried to list a few of the things you need to keep in mind. It is not easy when you set your aim so high, but I’m sure you can do it! First a practical tip: Don’t use your real email-address. If you do, people might bomb you with thousands of messages – or subscribe you to all the mailinglists in the world. – If anybody offers a cure, information, a new thought on healing – whatever – call them spamming MLM’ers. NEVER check their info or their website – just be as sarcastic and mean as possible. This frightens a lot of people. – Always ask for double-blind studies and the posters credentials. When the poster asks for _your_ credentials just ignore it. If they ask you if you’ve checked their website do likewise. – Remember – NOTHING WORKS in alternative medicine. Nothing. Everybody ought to stick to their MD. – Ridicule them. If a person criticizes you – yell about their spelling. Or their SIG-file. Or their name. – The phrase "Ha Ha. I cost you a sale now, you spamming MLM’er!" is great. It doesn’t matter if the person you say it to has never spoken of MLM or tried to sell anything – it works anyway. – Always use allopathic medicine as an example of _good_ medicine. If they start talking of Semmelweiss – just ignore it. – If somebody gets too close with their criticism, just tell them "Use your killfile if I am so awful!". Never mind that they will see your posts anyway – when people reply to them. Good luck! If you have anything to add to this, please feel free to do so. PS. This deals with a made-up person, male or female, which I have called "Carol". No similarities exists with any person, living or dead. But this is of course obvious – how could anybody post in a NG with so little knowledge of Netiquette? Haakon

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Good luck! If you have anything to add to this, please feel free to do so.

I might add this: When published articles and research articles are posted, be sure to discount them if YOU didn’t see them first.

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