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"Chris Malcolm" <c…@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message

news:3bkbfaF6hjeaeU1@individual.net…  It won’t be long before film actors won’t even know how to blow > smoke rings, how to suck smoke into their mouths and then blow it out > of their mouths and suck it back up their noses, and all those other > smoke tricks which sophisticated smokers liked to do with casual > expertise.

You say this like it’s a bad thing to look forward to. Marilee

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Chakolate wrote: > terr…@gmail.com wrote in news:1112792051.268030.189900 > @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > > Yes, but he’s said he started again after Sept 11 2001. Whether he > > continued to the present isn’t being reported but I suspect he did – > > otherwise why mention a few days or weeks. I smoked for 33 years – quit > > just over 9 years ago  and my dad died of lung cancer so I have reason > > for concern, but this test doesn’t strike me as an appropriate way to > > alleviate concern. > I wonder about the NYC dwellers who inhaled so much of the smoke and dust > from 9/11.  Jennings must have been front and center for a lot of it. > Chak

IIRC he did most of his reporting from indoors. At least one article on Tues noted that he began smoking at age 11 and taught his 8 year old sister to smoke as well.  I suspect that smoking at such an early age might be even more dangerous than  adult smoking. Also even if he quit 20 years ago that would be almost 40 years of smoking and he apparently, by his own admission and in his own words "smoked like a chimney." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick > society. >   –Krishnamurti

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Chris Malcolm <c…@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in news:3bkbfaF6hjeaeU1 @individual.net: >  It won’t be long before film actors won’t even know how to blow > smoke rings, how to suck smoke into their mouths and then blow it out > of their mouths and suck it back up their noses, and all those other > smoke tricks which sophisticated smokers liked to do with casual > expertise.

Or cough with that horrible deep lung-churning sound.   Chak — It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.   –Krishnamurti

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terr…@gmail.com wrote in news:1112880536.611567.279120 @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > IIRC he did most of his reporting from indoors. At least one article on > Tues noted that he began smoking at age 11 and taught his 8 year old > sister to smoke as well.  I suspect that smoking at such an early age > might be even more dangerous than  adult smoking. Also even if he quit > 20 years ago that would be almost 40 years of smoking and he > apparently, by his own admission and in his own words "smoked like a > chimney."

I have read articles that state that the younger a person starts smoking, the deeper he/she draws in the smoke, so it’s possible that contributed.   But I’ve also read articles that say that after 20 years smoke-free, a smoker’s lungs are as pink and pretty as if they never smoked.  Then again, he lived in a major metropolitan area, and that’s said to be as harmful to the lungs as smoking a pack a day.   IOW, it’s probably impossible to say exactly what caused the cancer.   Chak — It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.   –Krishnamurti

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Chakolate wrote: > terr…@gmail.com wrote in news:1112880536.611567.279120 > @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > > IIRC he did most of his reporting from indoors. At least one article on > > Tues noted that he began smoking at age 11 and taught his 8 year old > > sister to smoke as well.  I suspect that smoking at such an early age > > might be even more dangerous than  adult smoking. Also even if he quit > > 20 years ago that would be almost 40 years of smoking and he > > apparently, by his own admission and in his own words "smoked like a > > chimney." > I have read articles that state that the younger a person starts smoking, > the deeper he/she draws in the smoke, so it’s possible that contributed. > But I’ve also read articles that say that after 20 years smoke-free, a > smoker’s lungs are as pink and pretty as if they never smoked.  Then > again, he lived in a major metropolitan area, and that’s said to be as > harmful to the lungs as smoking a pack a day. > IOW, it’s probably impossible to say exactly what caused the cancer.

With certainty, yes. But Jennings himself isn’t ducking responsibility. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Chak > — > It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick > society. >   –Krishnamurti

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Chris Malcolm wrote: > I noticed that the cigarette had always just been lit, as stupidly > unrealistic as those film actor spectacles which they make from flat > glass. It won’t be long before film actors won’t even know how to blow > smoke rings, how to suck smoke into their mouths and then blow it out > of their mouths and suck it back up their noses, and all those other > smoke tricks which sophisticated smokers liked to do with casual > expertise.

As entertaining as it is to watch someone who is a true expert in a skill, it would be a Good Thing if upcoming generations did not get the impression that it is Cool to be able to blow smoke rings or use smoke to imitate tusks. FurPaw — Born to live a life of leisure, still waiting for it to happen. To reply, unleash the dog

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"FurPaw" <furrealpaw…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:5vidnSZKm8z64MjfRVn-pg@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Chris Malcolm wrote: > > I noticed that the cigarette had always just been lit, as stupidly > > unrealistic as those film actor spectacles which they make from flat > > glass. It won’t be long before film actors won’t even know how to blow > > smoke rings, how to suck smoke into their mouths and then blow it out > > of their mouths and suck it back up their noses, and all those other > > smoke tricks which sophisticated smokers liked to do with casual > > expertise. > As entertaining as it is to watch someone who is a true expert in a > skill, it would be a Good Thing if upcoming generations did not get > the impression that it is Cool to be able to blow smoke rings or use > smoke to imitate tusks.

On some cold cold mornings it’s not necessary to smoke tobacco to blow ’smoke’ rings. — Jette "Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" – Jim Byrnes je…@blueyonder.co.uk http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Jette Goldie wrote: > "FurPaw" <furrealpaw…@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:5vidnSZKm8z64MjfRVn-pg@comcast.com… >>Chris Malcolm wrote: >>>I noticed that the cigarette had always just been lit, as stupidly >>>unrealistic as those film actor spectacles which they make from > flat >>>glass. It won’t be long before film actors won’t even know how to > blow >>>smoke rings, how to suck smoke into their mouths and then blow it > out >>>of their mouths and suck it back up their noses, and all those > other >>>smoke tricks which sophisticated smokers liked to do with casual >>>expertise. >>As entertaining as it is to watch someone who is a true expert in a >>skill, it would be a Good Thing if upcoming generations did not get >>the impression that it is Cool to be able to blow smoke rings or use >>smoke to imitate tusks. > On some cold cold mornings it’s not necessary to smoke > tobacco to blow ’smoke’ rings.

Really!  I never could blow smoke rings when I smoked, so I never tried this.  Can you imitate tusks too? FurPaw — Born to live a life of leisure, still waiting for it to happen. To reply, unleash the dog

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"FurPaw" <furrealpaw…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:-q2dnRF2gMizDcjfRVn-tg@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jette Goldie wrote: > > "FurPaw" <furrealpaw…@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:5vidnSZKm8z64MjfRVn-pg@comcast.com… > >>Chris Malcolm wrote: > >>>I noticed that the cigarette had always just been lit, as stupidly > >>>unrealistic as those film actor spectacles which they make from > > flat > >>>glass. It won’t be long before film actors won’t even know how to > > blow > >>>smoke rings, how to suck smoke into their mouths and then blow it > > out > >>>of their mouths and suck it back up their noses, and all those > > other > >>>smoke tricks which sophisticated smokers liked to do with casual > >>>expertise. > >>As entertaining as it is to watch someone who is a true expert in a > >>skill, it would be a Good Thing if upcoming generations did not get > >>the impression that it is Cool to be able to blow smoke rings or use > >>smoke to imitate tusks. > > On some cold cold mornings it’s not necessary to smoke > > tobacco to blow ’smoke’ rings. > Really!  I never could blow smoke rings when I smoked, so I never > tried this.  Can you imitate tusks too?

Never tried. — Jette "Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" – Jim Byrnes je…@blueyonder.co.uk http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

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Jette Goldie <j…@blueyonder.com.uk> wrote: > > Back in the bad old days of journalism it was almost de rigeur that > > serious journalists chain smoked. It was your sign of membership. > > Sad. > And drank.  Journalism, as they warned us at college, had > the 2nd highest rate of alcoholism for any career group. > Beaten only by doctors – who also, oddly enough, had a > higher rate of smokers.

Is that a regional thing, or have they taken it up again? The doctors in London got a huge scare in the mid-to-late-50s (when the Doctors’ health survey started showing clear results), and I can remember my father’s friends commenting that the only doctors that still smoked at that time (a few years later) were the ones who will never be able to give up…. ________________________________________________________________________                    Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)    If you want a reply by e-mail, don’t write to my Yahoo address!

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Jette Goldie <j…@blueyonder.com.uk> wrote: > > > On some cold cold mornings it’s not necessary to smoke > > > tobacco to blow ’smoke’ rings. > > Really!  I never could blow smoke rings when I smoked, so I never > > tried this.  Can you imitate tusks too? > Never tried.

/me resolves to try next winter…. (If /me can remember that long, of course) ________________________________________________________________________                    Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)    If you want a reply by e-mail, don’t write to my Yahoo address!

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Marilee <marilee.erick…@gmail.com> wrote: > "Chris Malcolm" <c…@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message > news:3bkbfaF6hjeaeU1@individual.net… >>  It won’t be long before film actors won’t even know how to blow >> smoke rings, how to suck smoke into their mouths and then blow it out >> of their mouths and suck it back up their noses, and all those other >> smoke tricks which sophisticated smokers liked to do with casual >> expertise. > You say this like it’s a bad thing to look forward to.

Not in terms of everyone smoking, but in terms of actors losing skills I think it is. For example, the lack of realism about bullet impact when you get shot in many cowboy films annoys me, and it annoys me how most actors mishandle quill pens. Guns and quill pens are part of our cultural heritage, and it upsets me when the knowledge of what it was like is forgotten. — Chris Malcolm c…@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205 IPAB,  Informatics,  JCMB, King’s Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -sis <sispre…@gmail.com> wrote: > Marilee wrote: >> "sis" <sispre…@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1112802806.833695.47660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… >> > What about Peter Jennings? He started his career in my city. >> Do you mean ‘why are we talking about him/what’s the news’? >> He announced yesterday he has lung cancer. >> Marilee > Oh that is sad. I didn’t know. {Do not have tv. Do not buy newspapers. > Have been too busy to read online.} > Back in the bad old days of journalism it was almost de rigeur that > serious journalists chain smoked. It was your sign of membership.

I just watched a modern remake of an old science fiction film.It involved plenty of journalists who stayed up all night, scientists who stayed up all night, plus govt ministers and military once The Frightful Thing got loose. The old version was full of cigarette, pipe, and cigar smoke. Today’s version had just one of the journalists smoking, almost always having a cigarette in his mouth when on screen, and he was never shot inhaling deeply, and then thinking while smoke wreathed from various bodily orifices I noticed that the cigarette had always just been lit, as stupidly unrealistic as those film actor spectacles which they make from flat glass. It won’t be long before film actors won’t even know how to blow smoke rings, how to suck smoke into their mouths and then blow it out of their mouths and suck it back up their noses, and all those other smoke tricks which sophisticated smokers liked to do with casual expertise. — Chris Malcolm c…@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205 IPAB,  Informatics,  JCMB, King’s Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

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"FurPaw" <furrealpaw…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:pOSdnVGDBqFj0snfRVn-qA@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mickey wrote: > > "Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns96308C5CE9975chakolatehotmailcom@81.174.12.30… > >>terr…@gmail.com wrote in news:1112792051.268030.189900 > >>@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > >>>Yes, but he’s said he started again after Sept 11 2001. Whether he > >>>continued to the present isn’t being reported but I suspect he did – > >>>otherwise why mention a few days or weeks. I smoked for 33 years – quit > >>>just over 9 years ago  and my dad died of lung cancer so I have reason > >>>for concern, but this test doesn’t strike me as an appropriate way to > >>>alleviate concern. > >>I wonder about the NYC dwellers who inhaled so much of the smoke and dust > >>from 9/11.  Jennings must have been front and center for a lot of it. > >>Chak >  > my brother (who was a police officer at the time and is now a > firefighter) >  > is having problems already.  he was one of the police officers > assigned to >  > guard ground zero a couple of times a week, 12 hour shifts.  a > lot of the >  > guys in his house are also experiencing a high rate of breathing > problems. >  > the guys he works with at Engine 9 are based in chinatown which > is only a >  > few blocks from the former WTC.  their firehouse lost around 6 > men (possibly >  > more.) >  > i doubt if peter jennings had to inhale too much of ground zero > pollution. >  > abc offices are not downtown where we are located.  i probably > inhaled more >  > from it than he did. >  > mickey > But mightn’t Peter Jennings have spent considerable time on site > near the WTC area?  IIRC, a lot of newsfolk did.  When the powers > that be were initially trying to reassure NYC folk that there was no > danger from the dust/smoke that resulted from the explosions, I > thought, "Who would believe such a crock?"

I was amazed when in the first days people were on site & in the immediate area sans any sort of face mask. And wondered what sorts of respiratory illnesses were going to show up among the people who spent a good amount of time the site without breathing protection, & how long they’d take to manifest, as I’m willing to bet many people have. Re: Peter Jennings – working on the assumption (solely from what I heard on the news last night) that his lung cancer was already present in ‘01, but not to the point of being obvious & therefore diagnosed, I am therefore doubtful that breathing the pollutants in the WTC site air would’ve been the cause of his illness, but otoh, certainly wouldn’t have helped either.  If it turns out that it’s a relatively new cancer – developed after ‘01, then… who knows?  Esp. considering the smoking-again bit. > I hope your brother (and you) are ok, Mickey.

Same here. Cathy

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<MarieAnnCla…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1112789894.856562.156240@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com… >I googled the name of the test and had to wonder why anyone would > bother.  It sounds like it’s a money making scam to me.  Pardon my > cynicism. > I, too, am a former smoker. I smoked for 10 years and quit 25 years > ago.  On the positive side there is no history of any kind of cancer in > my family and my mother, a heavy smoker for more than 60 years, never > suffered from any lung problems (no emphysema or pneumonia) and died at > age 82 from a stroke (which certainly may have been related to her > smoking). > Still, I  have some concerns that I could be the first to develop > cancer; there are no guarantees after all.  What I remember from the > report about Peter Jennings was that he quit smoking 20 years ago.

This morning they showed a clip (from yesterday) of his announcment.  He said he also smoked "over 9/11" but didn’t say how long a stretch of time. Marilee

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"sis" <sispre…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1112802806.833695.47660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… > What about Peter Jennings? He started his career in my city.

Do you mean ‘why are we talking about him/what’s the news’? He announced yesterday he has lung cancer. Marilee

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terr…@gmail.com wrote in news:1112792051.268030.189900 @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > Yes, but he’s said he started again after Sept 11 2001. Whether he > continued to the present isn’t being reported but I suspect he did – > otherwise why mention a few days or weeks. I smoked for 33 years – quit > just over 9 years ago  and my dad died of lung cancer so I have reason > for concern, but this test doesn’t strike me as an appropriate way to > alleviate concern.

I wonder about the NYC dwellers who inhaled so much of the smoke and dust from 9/11.  Jennings must have been front and center for a lot of it. Chak — It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.   –Krishnamurti

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my brother (who was a police officer at the time and is now a firefighter) is having problems already.  he was one of the police officers assigned to guard ground zero a couple of times a week, 12 hour shifts.  a lot of the guys in his house are also experiencing a high rate of breathing problems. the guys he works with at Engine 9 are based in chinatown which is only a few blocks from the former WTC.  their firehouse lost around 6 men (possibly more.) i doubt if peter jennings had to inhale too much of ground zero pollution. abc offices are not downtown where we are located.  i probably inhaled more from it than he did. mickey "Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message

news:Xns96308C5CE9975chakolatehotmailcom@81.174.12.30… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> terr…@gmail.com wrote in news:1112792051.268030.189900 > @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > > Yes, but he’s said he started again after Sept 11 2001. Whether he > > continued to the present isn’t being reported but I suspect he did – > > otherwise why mention a few days or weeks. I smoked for 33 years – quit > > just over 9 years ago  and my dad died of lung cancer so I have reason > > for concern, but this test doesn’t strike me as an appropriate way to > > alleviate concern. > I wonder about the NYC dwellers who inhaled so much of the smoke and dust > from 9/11.  Jennings must have been front and center for a lot of it. > Chak > — > It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick > society. >   –Krishnamurti

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"sis" <sispre…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1112818594.627591.12080@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> X-No-Archive: Yes > Marilee wrote: > > "sis" <sispre…@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1112802806.833695.47660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… > > > What about Peter Jennings? He started his career in my city. > > Do you mean ‘why are we talking about him/what’s the news’? > > He announced yesterday he has lung cancer. > > Marilee > Oh that is sad. I didn’t know. {Do not have tv. Do not buy newspapers. > Have been too busy to read online.} > Back in the bad old days of journalism it was almost de rigeur that > serious journalists chain smoked. It was your sign of membership. > Sad.

And drank.  Journalism, as they warned us at college, had the 2nd highest rate of alcoholism for any career group. Beaten only by doctors – who also, oddly enough, had a higher rate of smokers. Come to think of it, the very first time I ever smoked it was at journalism college.  Didn’t actually take it up for another 3 years though.  College was also when I first actually went into a pub and sat down with a drink, as opposed to having *a* (single) drink at New Year with the family. — Jette "Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" – Jim Byrnes je…@blueyonder.co.uk http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

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Just heard Nancy Snyderman (who moved from medical advisor on GMA to the Vice Presidency of drug manufacturer Johnson and Johnson) extolling the benefirs of Spiral CT scanning for former smokers. This is the test that was reported last week as worse than worthless since the false positive rate is 99%. Then, in a move that is breathtaking in its stupidity, she claimed that "a positive mental attitude" is  the most important factor in surviving cancer….

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I googled the name of the test and had to wonder why anyone would bother.  It sounds like it’s a money making scam to me.  Pardon my cynicism.  I, too, am a former smoker. I smoked for 10 years and quit 25 years ago.  On the positive side there is no history of any kind of cancer in my family and my mother, a heavy smoker for more than 60 years, never suffered from any lung problems (no emphysema or pneumonia) and died at age 82 from a stroke (which certainly may have been related to her smoking). Still, I  have some concerns that I could be the first to develop cancer; there are no guarantees after all.  What I remember from the report about Peter Jennings was that he quit smoking 20 years ago. MarieAnn

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MarieAnnCla…@hotmail.com wrote: > I googled the name of the test and had to wonder why anyone would > bother.  It sounds like it’s a money making scam to me.  Pardon my > cynicism.

Yes, like so much of medical care in the US in particular. >  I, too, am a former smoker. I smoked for 10 years and quit 25 years > ago.  On the positive side there is no history of any kind of cancer in > my family and my mother, a heavy smoker for more than 60 years, never > suffered from any lung problems (no emphysema or pneumonia) and died at > age 82 from a stroke (which certainly may have been related to her > smoking). > Still, I  have some concerns that I could be the first to develop > cancer; there are no guarantees after all.  What I remember from the > report about Peter Jennings was that he quit smoking 20 years ago. > MarieAnn

Yes, but he’s said he started again after Sept 11 2001. Whether he continued to the present isn’t being reported but I suspect he did – otherwise why mention a few days or weeks. I smoked for 33 years – quit just over 9 years ago  and my dad died of lung cancer so I have reason for concern, but this test doesn’t strike me as an appropriate way to alleviate concern.

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"FurPaw" <furrealpaw…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:pOSdnVGDBqFj0snfRVn-qA@comcast.com… > But mightn’t Peter Jennings have spent considerable time on site near the > WTC area?  IIRC, a lot of newsfolk did.  When the powers that be were > initially trying to reassure NYC folk that there was no danger from the > dust/smoke that resulted from the explosions, I thought, "Who would > believe such a crock?" > I hope your brother (and you) are ok, Mickey.

I second this. Regarding Peter Jennings:  there would likely have been tremendous second hand smoke exposure, too, perhaps up to the current time.  More and more workplaces are "smoke=free" environments, but many of those changes have happened very gradually, and many still have meeting rooms and "break" rooms that allow smoking. It all adds up. Marilee

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thanks, i’m much more concerned with my younger brother.  he was right there in the "thick" of it.  i really doubt that the anchor people were that close to ground zero.  first of all, the police department wouldn’t let anyone near the area.  there was a wide radius that was off-limits unless you were a cop or a fireman who was doing search and rescue.  and after the search and rescue was over, there were a lot of firemen there trying to find family/co-workers who were lost.  the iron workers also had a very large presence in the immediate days after the attack.  i would bet they have quite a few problems as well. mickey "FurPaw" <furrealpaw…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:pOSdnVGDBqFj0snfRVn-qA@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mickey wrote: > > "Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns96308C5CE9975chakolatehotmailcom@81.174.12.30… > >>terr…@gmail.com wrote in news:1112792051.268030.189900 > >>@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > >>>Yes, but he’s said he started again after Sept 11 2001. Whether he > >>>continued to the present isn’t being reported but I suspect he did – > >>>otherwise why mention a few days or weeks. I smoked for 33 years – quit > >>>just over 9 years ago  and my dad died of lung cancer so I have reason > >>>for concern, but this test doesn’t strike me as an appropriate way to > >>>alleviate concern. > >>I wonder about the NYC dwellers who inhaled so much of the smoke and dust > >>from 9/11.  Jennings must have been front and center for a lot of it. > >>Chak >  > my brother (who was a police officer at the time and is now a > firefighter) >  > is having problems already.  he was one of the police officers > assigned to >  > guard ground zero a couple of times a week, 12 hour shifts.  a > lot of the >  > guys in his house are also experiencing a high rate of breathing > problems. >  > the guys he works with at Engine 9 are based in chinatown which > is only a >  > few blocks from the former WTC.  their firehouse lost around 6 > men (possibly >  > more.) >  > i doubt if peter jennings had to inhale too much of ground zero > pollution. >  > abc offices are not downtown where we are located.  i probably > inhaled more >  > from it than he did. >  > mickey > But mightn’t Peter Jennings have spent considerable time on site > near the WTC area?  IIRC, a lot of newsfolk did.  When the powers > that be were initially trying to reassure NYC folk that there was no > danger from the dust/smoke that resulted from the explosions, I > thought, "Who would believe such a crock?" > I hope your brother (and you) are ok, Mickey. > FurPaw > — > Born to live a life of leisure, still waiting for it to happen. > To reply, unleash the dog

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mickey wrote: > "Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message > news:Xns96308C5CE9975chakolatehotmailcom@81.174.12.30… >>terr…@gmail.com wrote in news:1112792051.268030.189900 >>@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: >>>Yes, but he’s said he started again after Sept 11 2001. Whether he >>>continued to the present isn’t being reported but I suspect he did – >>>otherwise why mention a few days or weeks. I smoked for 33 years – quit >>>just over 9 years ago  and my dad died of lung cancer so I have reason >>>for concern, but this test doesn’t strike me as an appropriate way to >>>alleviate concern. >>I wonder about the NYC dwellers who inhaled so much of the smoke and dust >>from 9/11.  Jennings must have been front and center for a lot of it. >>Chak

 > my brother (who was a police officer at the time and is now a firefighter)  > is having problems already.  he was one of the police officers assigned to  > guard ground zero a couple of times a week, 12 hour shifts.  a lot of the  > guys in his house are also experiencing a high rate of breathing problems.  > the guys he works with at Engine 9 are based in chinatown which is only a  > few blocks from the former WTC.  their firehouse lost around 6 men (possibly  > more.)  >  > i doubt if peter jennings had to inhale too much of ground zero pollution.  > abc offices are not downtown where we are located.  i probably inhaled more  > from it than he did.  >  > mickey But mightn’t Peter Jennings have spent considerable time on site near the WTC area?  IIRC, a lot of newsfolk did.  When the powers that be were initially trying to reassure NYC folk that there was no danger from the dust/smoke that resulted from the explosions, I thought, "Who would believe such a crock?" I hope your brother (and you) are ok, Mickey. FurPaw — Born to live a life of leisure, still waiting for it to happen. To reply, unleash the dog

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