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  I’m 45 and have MS…duh ! Now what? The doctor sent me home for a coup;e of weeks to pick which side-effect I want?to live with.   Well I don’t have a clue………which gives the best result?and what if I don’t do anything????I still work and don’t stagger enough to have the management ask for a piss test (dot).I feel I have had this a long long time…at least 10 to 15 years hidden by a bad back from an accident.I got around the double vision by putting a piece of frosted tape in front of my left eye.BUT…this stuff makes me feel DRUNK and lordy I know what thats like.When I was told I gave up a 1.75 liter a week habit to which I only occasionally miss.As for as stress …I don’t have to pay HER! anymore…ha  ha  ha  ha!   Imust admit the stabbing pains onthe left side of my rugged Texas faceI can sure live without!I do hope the stagger in my walk is viewed as that of John Wayne and not of a drunk…but IT happens.   Now back on track….Can too much Booze…cause an attack?????     Any thoughts…….quietly awaiting an answer!                                      Thanks!

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At 04:47 10/26/96 -0400, you wrote: >Well, I am adult child of an alcoholic (myfather) and I have MS. >Interesting you see a connection?  How many others? >Kathi

        Jennie doesn’t fall into this catagory.  Her Dad never         touched the stuff until his heart attack about 8 years         ago.  I never touched it when I was pregnant with my         kids (we didn’t know back then that it could affect the         developing baby, but I had two sips of a mixed drink on my         birthday when I was about 3 months pregnant with my         first kid and promptly threw my brains up – aah!  That’s my         problem!  As a result, I didn’t go near the stuff for a good         ten years.)  ’Course now that I’m an ol’ foof, I must         admit I do like to knock back few now and again on         a Friday night.  Don’t think that counts though.         P. -+++- -+++- -+++- -+++- -+++- -+++-                      PamY Some days you’re the pigeon and some days you’re the statue.                       -+++- -+++- -+++- -+++- -+++- -+++-

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1. I was (am still?) an alcoholic until my late thirties (I’m 53 now) 2. Both my parents were active alcoholics all their adult lives & both died earlier than they had to because of alcoholic diseases (cirrhosis and liver cancer) 3. Two of my four grandparents were alcoholics, one of them was the old-fashioned outrageous alcoholic types. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ewin…@westworld.com (ewinner) wrote: >On Tue, 01 Oct 96 23:58:41 GMT, danmc…@pilot.msu.edu (Dan >McCandless) wrote: >>Too much alcohol can cause a lot of brain damage but as far as I know it is not >>linked to causing MS.  <snip> >Hi Lois and gang! >A few years ago, my supervision group and support group did a survey >about having an alcoholic parent in the family of ms’ers.  Quite a few >did have either one or both parents as heavy drinkers.  Does anyone >know if there is a correlation?  How about another survey here? >Stelle

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I had double trouble, both parents, paternal grandfather and great-grandfather. Bev

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KA>Well, I am adult child of an alcoholic (myfather) and I have MS. KA>Interesting you see a connection?  How many others? Not me – both parents are teetotal and both children (me and my sister) have MS.  No MS anywhere else in the family either. Love and hugs,   IO O IO IO U  |/  |/|/|/  poo…@ooh.dircon.co.uk —  * OLX 2.1 TD * BABT internal 33k6 + V.FAST voice/fax modems L90 inc VAT.

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On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 19:03:52 -0500, "J.P. Ward" <jpw…@bmts.com> wrote: >I had double trouble, both parents, paternal grandfather and >great-grandfather. >Bev

Interesting survey!  Glad to hear from those of you who didn’t come from alcoholic backgrounds.  It’s one mess I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Love and hugs, Stelle

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On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:38:00 GMT, poppy.has…@ooh.dircon.co.uk (Poppy Hasted) wrote: >Not me – both parents are teetotal and both children (me and my sister) >have MS.  No MS anywhere else in the family either.

Hi Poppy, In my family, although no teetotallers, my brother who’s the youngest and me, the eldest, are the MS’ers.  My two sisters in between don’t have it but have other things, like Chronic Epstein Barr and pre diabetic, and my other sister has severe scolosis and wears lifts, etc.  Our genes do carry adult onset, insulin dependent diabetes. I have my blood checked every so often. Hugs, Stelle

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In article <96102807001216…@ooh.dircon.co.uk>,         poppy.has…@ooh.dircon.co.uk (Poppy Hasted) wrote: >KA>Well, I am adult child of an alcoholic (myfather) and I have MS. >KA>Interesting you see a connection?  How many others? >Not me – both parents are teetotal and both children (me and my sister) >have MS.  No MS anywhere else in the family either. >Love and hugs, >  IO O IO IO U > |/  |/|/|/  poo…@ooh.dircon.co.uk >— > * OLX 2.1 TD * BABT internal 33k6 + V.FAST voice/fax modems L90 inc VAT.

 Not me either.  Both of my parents drank socially, but were far from alcoholics.  No MS anywhere in the family either, that I or my mother know of.

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In article <52n5i8$…@excelsior.flash.net>,    johnc…@flash.net (john caldwell) wrote: >I do hope the stagger in my walk is viewed >as that of John Wayne and not of a drunk…but IT happens. >  Now back on track….Can too much Booze…cause an attack????? >    Any thoughts…….quietly awaiting an answer! >                                     Thanks!

Too much alcohol can cause a lot of brain damage but as far as I know it is not linked to causing MS.  I just know that any alcohol makes my symptoms of fatigue and dizziness much worse, and then the cognitive fuzziness just gets worse.   Alcohol is incompatible with a lot of meds that we with MS must take, and also, I figure I have enough brain damage as it is!<BG> As far as the John Wayne bit, I don’t think the "weebling" that we do (combo of weave and wobble) would qualify as a swagger.  Using a cane may help dispel any doubts about your sobriety and it also cues people in to give you a wide berth and to open doors for you.  Not a bad deal! Take care and good for you for quitting a bad habit!  You will be healthier than you would be otherwise.  But don’t kick yourself too much for previous bad habits.  No one knows why we get MS.  Bad luck and a few stray genes, I guess! Lois in Mich.

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danmc…@pilot.msu.edu (Dan McCandless) wrote:

(big snip)   No one knows why we get MS.  Bad luck and a few stray genes, I guess! >Lois in Mich.

Hi Gang I know a psychologist that said he went to Woolworths to buy his little bottle of MS.  Said he picked it on purpose rather than some other diseases. Now that Woolworths is closed, I wonder where we get it?   Wal-Mart, Target?  Anybody know?  I’m old enough that I probably got mine at Woolworths or Newburys. Also, I used to get my new body parts at those places when they went bust.  Now I have to keep them because I haven’t found a new source.  Help guys!!!  I need a new right leg and a new left eye!                                L

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On Tue, 01 Oct 96 23:58:41 GMT, danmc…@pilot.msu.edu (Dan McCandless) wrote: >Too much alcohol can cause a lot of brain damage but as far as I know it is not >linked to causing MS.  <snip>

Hi Lois and gang! A few years ago, my supervision group and support group did a survey about having an alcoholic parent in the family of ms’ers.  Quite a few did have either one or both parents as heavy drinkers.  Does anyone know if there is a correlation?  How about another survey here? Stelle

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My sister and I both have MS and a father who was an alcoholic. I have never thought before thatn this might have something to do with it. What is the research?

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My sister and I both have MS and a father who was an alcoholic. Have never thought before about the correlation. My mother has been blaming herself for years, but perhaps it was dad. Who knows?

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On 24 Oct 1996 10:32:44 GMT, Sandra Gigliotti <gi…@ozemail.com.au> wrote: >My sister and I both have MS and a father who was an alcoholic. I have >never thought before thatn this might have something to do with it. What >is the research?

I don’t know of any research, just doing my own survey.  I’ve done this survey before, with my other support groups locally, and we came up with a lot of alcoholic parents.   Stelle with hugs.

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Well, I am adult child of an alcoholic (myfather) and I have MS. Interesting you see a connection?  How many others? Kathi

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Count me in, alcoholic mother & m.s. Heidi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, I am adult child of an alcoholic (myfather) and I have MS. > Interesting you see a connection?  How many others? > Kathi

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On Mon, 30 Sep 1996 02:56:26 GMT, johnc…@flash.net (john caldwell) wrote: snip… >  Now back on track….Can too much Booze…cause an attack????? >    Any thoughts…….quietly awaiting an answer! >                                     Thanks!

My balance seems a little better after a moderate amount of beer. My physio says this is because my muscles in my lower legs and feet relax so my balance responses are more normal. Things start to get worse after I pass the "moderate amount" stage but sometimes it’s worth it. Steve ————————————————————————– Stephen Wolstenholme, Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, UK   st…@tropheus.demon.co.uk    Author of Neural Planner, Windows neural network system    http://www.winsite.com/pc/win3/programr/np410.zip ————————————————————————–

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