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CT gives a guy a grin
Question:
Well, I just got the results of my CT. (12 months since the last). NO CHANGE!!!!!!! Since I was given a generous 6 months in June 1998 by a top ranking onco, amd also told that the tumours in my liver were so widespread that no treatment was to be offered, I haven’t stopped marvelling at what Essiac can do. Don’t let the naysayers put it over you. Investigate all your options before you let the medicos fill you up with poison. And I got to see and enjoy my first Granddaughter. Flllbbbtt!!!(spelling?) Marty in Oz
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marty, I’m very happy to hear of your great test results and hope that your health continues. I wondered, though, about your treatment. Did you do anything at all besides the essiac? Did you have any surgery, chemo, radiation, other supplements? Thanks. …lisa
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Yes, Marty, please elaborate. I don’t even know what essiac is. Tell us everything you can, please. Marilyn
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I have posted my story before, but fyi here it is again. April 1997-left lung removed due to cancer and given all clear. June 1998-dx’ed with liver mets, and told that no treatment would be offered because of the large spread. As a matter of interest, I also refused any chemo or radio therapy. I watched my Dad die some years ago, and I reckon the chemo was the cruellest act I’ve ever seen, and killed him. My son convinced me to try Essiac, which I discounted at the time as mumbo-jumbo. 2 1/2 years after my use-by-date, the bloody mumbo-jumbo is still making the medicos scratch their heads. I won’t rave on here about what Essiac is, but if you email me directly, I’d be only too happy to help. Don’t want to give the cycnics too much heartburn, you know. Everyone stay well, Marty in Oz
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Yes, Marty, please elaborate. I don’t even know what essiac is. Tell us everything you can, please. I won’t rave on here about what Essiac is, but if you email me directly, I’d be only too happy to help. Don’t want to give the cycnics too much heartburn, you know.
http://cancerguide.org/median_not_msg.html There are lots of long term survivors around. That "six months" was an average survival time, not a schedule. I met a boy who was "given 4 months" at the age of seven. He doesn’t remember having been given essiac or any other alt-med. He’s older now. He will soon retire. — Oisin "Curly++" Curtin http://pages.infinit.net/curlypp/ oligodendroglioma grade 3, 2000/Jun/1, rad SURVIVOR
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I’m not 100 percent ofay with this, but I think you’ll find that long term survival is a rarely used term when referring to cancer in the liver. Marty in Oz
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, Marty, please elaborate. I don’t even know what essiac is. Tell us everything you can, please. I won’t rave on here about what Essiac is, but if you email me directly, I’d be only too happy to help. Don’t want to give the cycnics too much heartburn, you know. http://cancerguide.org/median_not_msg.html There are lots of long term survivors around. That "six months" was an average survival time, not a schedule. I met a boy who was "given 4 months" at the age of seven. He doesn’t remember having been given essiac or any other alt-med. He’s older now. He will soon retire. — Oisin "Curly++" Curtin http://pages.infinit.net/curlypp/ oligodendroglioma grade 3, 2000/Jun/1, rad SURVIVOR
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I’m not 100 percent ofay with this, but I think you’ll find that long term survival is a rarely used term when referring to cancer in the liver.
Yes, you are right. The gentleman I refered to survived a supposedly fatal pediatric brain tumor at the base of the brain. I can’t point out any individuals, but I’m sure there are other liver-cancer survivors like yourself. The math is the same. Cancer survival curves become flatter lines the farther out you go on the curve. For liver cancer, you are out there on the thin edge already. Each day you survive diminishes the odds that the cancer will kill you. Whatever you are doing, keep it up. You are an inspiration to us all, Marty. — Oisin "Curly++" Curtin http://pages.infinit.net/curlypp/ oligodendroglioma grade 3, 2000/Jun/1, rad SURVIVOR
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Thats great. Thanks great. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I just got the results of my CT. (12 months since the last). NO CHANGE!!!!!!! Since I was given a generous 6 months in June 1998 by a top ranking onco, amd also told that the tumours in my liver were so widespread that no treatment was to be offered, I haven’t stopped marvelling at what Essiac can do. Don’t let the naysayers put it over you. Investigate all your options before you let the medicos fill you up with poison. And I got to see and enjoy my first Granddaughter. Flllbbbtt!!!(spelling?) Marty in Oz
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Well, I just got the results of my CT. (12 months since the last). NO CHANGE!!!!!!! Since I was given a generous 6 months in June 1998 by a top ranking onco, amd also told that the tumours in my liver were so widespread that no treatment was to be offered, I haven’t stopped marvelling at what Essiac can do. Don’t let the naysayers put it over you. Investigate all your options before you let the medicos fill you up with poison.
I’m just a patient too, Marty. I do know that individual cancers do not always follow the route that doctors expect. But then, isn’t that sometimes the case even with other illnesses and injuries? The survival curve is not a straight line, it’s a curve. It get’s thinner and thinner the farther you get beyond the average, but, it also get’s flatter and flatter. It never reaches zero. Mathematically, you are beating the odds by outliving them. Of course, if I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t want to stop essiac tea either. But since I’m in my own shoes, I won’t start taking it. And I got to see and enjoy my first Granddaughter. Flllbbbtt!!!(spelling?)
Congratulations on both counts, Marty. Isn’t that a strange name to give a girl? You won’t be the only one having trouble spelling it. <GRIN — Oisin "Curly++" Curtin http://pages.infinit.net/curlypp/ oligodendroglioma grade 3, 2000/Jun/1, rad SURVIVOR
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I agree on most counts Curly, but the fact that I went from a perfectly healthy liver to what was scanned in less than 15 months (mets) also convinced the onco that it was hopeless. He stated that it was the rate of progress of the tumours that convinced him. Still no change, and I certainly won’t be stopping the "Brew". Sorry about the spelling mistake. Her name is Alyssa and I’ve already had 6 glorious months of her smile. Keep well, Marty in Oz
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I just got the results of my CT. (12 months since the last). NO CHANGE!!!!!!! Since I was given a generous 6 months in June 1998 by a top ranking onco, amd also told that the tumours in my liver were so widespread that no treatment was to be offered, I haven’t stopped marvelling at what Essiac can do. Don’t let the naysayers put it over you. Investigate all your options before you let the medicos fill you up with poison. I’m just a patient too, Marty. I do know that individual cancers do not always follow the route that doctors expect. But then, isn’t that sometimes the case even with other illnesses and injuries? The survival curve is not a straight line, it’s a curve. It get’s thinner and thinner the farther you get beyond the average, but, it also get’s flatter and flatter. It never reaches zero. Mathematically, you are beating the odds by outliving them. Of course, if I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t want to stop essiac tea either. But since I’m in my own shoes, I won’t start taking it. And I got to see and enjoy my first Granddaughter.
Flllbbbtt!!!(spelling?) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Congratulations on both counts, Marty. Isn’t that a strange name to give a girl? You won’t be the only one having trouble spelling it. <GRIN — Oisin "Curly++" Curtin http://pages.infinit.net/curlypp/ oligodendroglioma grade 3, 2000/Jun/1, rad SURVIVOR