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I think you must have got me muddled up with someone else. While its nice to be recognised on RST for anything… I don’t think I deserve it and to the best of my memory I’ve never been here with any other identity much less trolling. ++Mark.

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This is one of the best things I have seen posted on this site. Here are a couple of my own additions: Kids really look up to their parents Parents, your children are watching Some friend are better than you think Some friends are not Training with women is cool Riding hills in Austin, TX is Awesome

Riding hills in Denmark is even more awesome Oakleys really make you look cool Fibre feeds the upchuck Woodchucks don’t do triathlon Wisdom isn’t vacuous soundbites

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Wisdom isn’t vacuous soundbites

THANK YOU! This whole thread was like some kind of Oprah Winfrey theme park.

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Wisdom isn’t vacuous soundbites THANK YOU! This whole thread was like some kind of Oprah Winfrey theme park.

Theme parks are the American Way Brian hates Oprah Winfrey One day Brian will love Oakleys bthomas is developing into quite a good troll Mark Cathcart is a better one I miss the ITU flamewars Dinner is nearly ready Mark M

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bthomas is developing into quite a good troll Mark Cathcart is a better one

I don’t understand. Troll ? Not I, I’m just struggling to understand and asking dumb questions when I just don’t get it. I try to be as helpful as I can when I can… ++Mark.

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Never wear your race shirt before the race Never ever, EVER wear your race shirt during the race (road races included) Never wear a race shirt for a race you didn’t race in Almost all of my t-shirts are free race shirts

for more triathlon t-shirt rules see: http://www.triathletes-uk.org/info/etiquette.html Its tailored for the UK tri scene, but you should get it. ++Mark.

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"Mark Cathcart" wrote Never wear your race shirt before the race

All very true Mark, and one to add… Dont let moths get to your coolest shirt, unless the holes can be explained away as tarmac tears (This happened to my Ironbridge t from a few years back, dammit)

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bthomas is developing into quite a good troll Mark Cathcart is a better one I don’t understand. Troll ? Not I, I’m just struggling to understand and asking dumb questions when I just don’t get it. I try to be as helpful as I can when I can…

Actually, you haven’t been trolling here in this incarnation, but on the basis of the sarcastic troll-guidance you posted, I think you have a slight edge on bthomas. Mark M PS I was wondering whether I should learn to swim…?

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Here are a couple I can add after my first tri for this season: Some kids do belong in triathlons (13yr old made 18th overall) Put in a faster swim time (30 sec or so) to seed you for a pool swim Don’t put in a slower swim time, you will get stuck Pool swims suck!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On my run this morning, I starting thinking about what I have learned in my years of running and triathlon racing….. allow me to wax philosophic for a moment. A good read, for newbies especially: (warning, some of these may be controversial and are my opinions only !!!!)… a work in progress, I would be interested in others thoughts…… Lessons learned. Triathlons are hard Training for triathlons is harder You need a lot of money to compete in this sport Never wear your race shirt before the race Never ever, EVER wear your race shirt during the race (road races included) Never wear a race shirt for a race you didn’t race in Almost all of my t-shirts are free race shirts Stretching hurts, but is necessary Money really can buy you speed on the bike Swimming is all about mechanics A good swim coach is worth twice what you pay them. Getting a good bike fit by an expert on TRIATHLON bike fitting is worth twice as much as you paid Finding a good bike shop is as significant as finding a good (honest) car mechanic Your bike mechanic charges almost as much as your Volvo mechanic Bike tires cost as much or more than car tires (still trying to figure this one out) Throwing empty GU packets on the ground is irresponsible Don’t make fun of people for being slow, you were there once, or are 1 injury away from being there Don’t laugh at overweight people out jogging; at least they are out there ‘Gallowalking’ a marathon is not the same as ‘running’ a marathon Galloway has taken something away from the marathon, they don’t seem like a big deal anymore Funny how the Gallowalkers always RUN across the finish line I will be Gallowalking at the Ironman Galloway is responsible for thousands of dreams realized, so I forgive him Those people in the purple shirts used to really get on my nerves My uncle has been diagnosed with Leukemia, now I get it Ironman’s selling out a year in advance sucks Sprint triathlons selling out over 3 months is advance sucks more A great spouse is key to being able to train for an Ironman Getting up at 5am during the week to train sucks Starting a morning run in the dark and watching the sun come up is an incredible experience Getting up at 6am to do a long run on Saturday sucks Finishing a long run on Saturday and eating a fat bagel with your running buddies is AWESOME You never get used to people telling you ‘I could do everything but the swim ‘ The people that say that really couldn’t It really is all about the bike Some roadies are cool Most roadies are not cool Timex makes the best running watches Polar makes the best HRM’s Less than 2% of the population has run a marathon Only 2 % of the population can swim more than 200 yds. without stopping You don’t have to finish an Ironman to be a triathlete WTC has a monopoly on Ironman racing WTC charges too much for their races WTC puts on one hell of a race 86-degree pool water sucks (thanks to the old people for that one) Lance is the greatest athlete of my generation Dick Hoyt ties Lance Lance was a triathlete first Bill Bell is the f*&%$% man I haven’t seen a Sunday football game in 2 years Never eat Mexican the night before a race / long run The friends I have made because of this sport are the best I have ever had Running in the rain lets you feel like a kid again Running in the snow is WAY cool Running up on a deer standing in the middle of the trail on a morning run is a borderline religious experience Sometimes a port-o-john on a long country road is the most precious thing you have ever seen 3 people to a swim lane is too much I really hate dogs when running or riding I love dogs the rest of the time Watching Doug Flutie getting pulled from the San Fran Bay last year was hilarious Cars are the most dangerous things in the world when you are on a bike People driving those cars don’t know that I love driving Hotels ‘fitness centers’ suck Running in a strange city is cool When you start complaining about being slow / not fast / can’t break X in a marathon, remember there are people that would give everything they have to be able to walk around the room one time without a wheelchair. My tenth running journal entry says ‘ Ran a whole mile today, only stopped twice, 11 minutes AWESOME’ I promised my wife that I would never EVER get a tattoo When I finish an Ironman, I will get a tattoo, and my wife is cool with that One of my best friends in college was raped and murdered during a run in the mountains of NC Sometimes the death penalty just isn’t enough Women should never run alone in secluded areas I will run the Karen Styles memorial 5k every year for the rest of my life

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It’s not the raw fish (sashimi) that did you in. It’s all the rice. Fiber bad. I saw a guy in the 24th mile of a marathon who, being all out of pasta had decided to carbo-load on oatmeal. His face was greener than the grass alongside the trail. Me, I felt fine at the time, having had a Domino’s large double sausage, double cheese, THIN CRUST for dinner the night before. I’ll eat anything but fiber or Olestra before a race; nothing bothers my system, but I want to run without ballast.

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I love the rule about Mexican food the night before a race. Same goes with Sushi, 2 nights before. I flew into NYC to do last years Marathon on Friday eve and the nearest place to eat to my hotel in mid-town was a sushi bar. Being hungry (and clueless) I chowed down. On Sunday at mile 23, just entering the park, doubled over in lower GI spasms, I pulled into the blessed green plastic shack for 10 minutes before limping in the last 3 miles. Needless to say I won’t be eating raw fish any time soon. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bike tires cost as much or more than car tires (still trying to figure this one out) My last pair of tires for bike, $80, not installed. Car tires installed and balanced $61. I have two sets of extra tires for my bike, total cost $12. When they close them out, stock up. When bike shops go out of business, they sell off their stock to the general public; when automotive tire stores close, the inventory gets sold en masse to another tire store. One tire for my truck is $59. We won’t even talk about car tires (P205-45R16)

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Here’s another one I’ve learned. Triathlon is not the end of your world, it is the beginning.

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Nice post Stretching hurts, but is necessary

Stretching should feel good, shouldn’t hurt. Bike tires cost as much or more than car tires (still trying to figure this one out)

My last pair of tires for bike, $80, not installed. Car tires installed and balanced $61. Some roadies are cool Most roadies are not cool

I find that people who ride a bike regularly(roadies, tri-geeks, MTBers, commuters) are all generally cooler people than the general population. WTC has a monopoly on Ironman racing

"Ironman" yes, the distance no. Great Floridian is a great IM distance race I’m sure there are others. 86-degree pool water sucks (thanks to the old people for that one)

and wussies like myself, I like it warm. Takes me 10 minutes to get into that damn 79 degree water. Lance is the greatest athlete of my generation

Damn straight! Dick Hoyt ties Lance

He is quite an athlete, had the pleasure of racing him several times a way back. Lance was a triathlete first

Can’t wait to see him win another TDF. I haven’t seen a Sunday football game in 2 years

I tape them, and/or get up really early before the game. Haven’t missed a Ram game in 3 years, though I woudn’t have minded missing that last one. Cars are the most dangerous things in the world when you are on a bike

Tree’s can be pretty bad to…and wet roots. Tim buaidh no bas

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Brian, I really enjoyed your post. Thanks for your great insight, but more importantly, thanks for taking the time to share it… Matt.

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Bike tires cost as much or more than car tires (still trying to figure this one out) My last pair of tires for bike, $80, not installed. Car tires installed and balanced $61.

I have two sets of extra tires for my bike, total cost $12. When they close them out, stock up. When bike shops go out of business, they sell off their stock to the general public; when automotive tire stores close, the inventory gets sold en masse to another tire store. One tire for my truck is $59. We won’t even talk about car tires (P205-45R16)

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My point is that they are nowhere close to equal thirds of the equation. I concede that one must have SOME strength and SOME endurance. My point is that a swimmer with 90% perfect technique, 50% of whatever "perfect strength" is, and 50% of "perfect endurance" will actually be a better swimmer than one who is 50/90/90. Swimming is about technique. Strength and endurance don’t beat technique.

I disagree, if you want to swim fast. 3 legged stool philosophy. I have seen people do TI until they were blue in the face, but never really swim workouts on a steady basis, and never develope strength and endurance. Yes they improved their IM time from 2:00 to 1:50, but without strength and endurance, they never get any faster. All htree are needed, IMO. I watched the biathlon in the Winter Olympics, but didn’t see no guy named Lance? I didn’t see no cyclists either. Tim

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On my run this morning, I starting thinking about what I have learned in my years of running and triathlon racing….. allow me to wax philosophic for a moment. A good read, for newbies especially: (warning, some of these may be controversial and are my opinions only !!!!)… a work in progress, I would be interested in others thoughts…… Lessons learned. Triathlons are hard Training for triathlons is harder You need a lot of money to compete in this sport Never wear your race shirt before the race Never ever, EVER wear your race shirt during the race (road races included) Never wear a race shirt for a race you didn’t race in Almost all of my t-shirts are free race shirts Stretching hurts, but is necessary Money really can buy you speed on the bike Swimming is all about mechanics A good swim coach is worth twice what you pay them. Getting a good bike fit by an expert on TRIATHLON bike fitting is worth twice as much as you paid Finding a good bike shop is as significant as finding a good (honest) car mechanic Your bike mechanic charges almost as much as your Volvo mechanic Bike tires cost as much or more than car tires (still trying to figure this one out) Throwing empty GU packets on the ground is irresponsible Don’t make fun of people for being slow, you were there once, or are 1 injury away from being there Don’t laugh at overweight people out jogging; at least they are out there ‘Gallowalking’ a marathon is not the same as ‘running’ a marathon Galloway has taken something away from the marathon, they don’t seem like a big deal anymore Funny how the Gallowalkers always RUN across the finish line I will be Gallowalking at the Ironman Galloway is responsible for thousands of dreams realized, so I forgive him Those people in the purple shirts used to really get on my nerves My uncle has been diagnosed with Leukemia, now I get it Ironman’s selling out a year in advance sucks Sprint triathlons selling out over 3 months is advance sucks more A great spouse is key to being able to train for an Ironman Getting up at 5am during the week to train sucks Starting a morning run in the dark and watching the sun come up is an incredible experience Getting up at 6am to do a long run on Saturday sucks Finishing a long run on Saturday and eating a fat bagel with your running buddies is AWESOME You never get used to people telling you ‘I could do everything but the swim ‘ The people that say that really couldn’t It really is all about the bike Some roadies are cool Most roadies are not cool Timex makes the best running watches Polar makes the best HRM’s Less than 2% of the population has run a marathon Only 2 % of the population can swim more than 200 yds. without stopping You don’t have to finish an Ironman to be a triathlete WTC has a monopoly on Ironman racing WTC charges too much for their races WTC puts on one hell of a race 86-degree pool water sucks (thanks to the old people for that one) Lance is the greatest athlete of my generation Dick Hoyt ties Lance Lance was a triathlete first Bill Bell is the f*&%$% man I haven’t seen a Sunday football game in 2 years Never eat Mexican the night before a race / long run The friends I have made because of this sport are the best I have ever had Running in the rain lets you feel like a kid again Running in the snow is WAY cool Running up on a deer standing in the middle of the trail on a morning run is a borderline religious experience Sometimes a port-o-john on a long country road is the most precious thing you have ever seen 3 people to a swim lane is too much I really hate dogs when running or riding I love dogs the rest of the time Watching Doug Flutie getting pulled from the San Fran Bay last year was hilarious Cars are the most dangerous things in the world when you are on a bike People driving those cars don’t know that I love driving Hotels ‘fitness centers’ suck Running in a strange city is cool When you start complaining about being slow / not fast / can’t break X in a marathon, remember there are people that would give everything they have to be able to walk around the room one time without a wheelchair. My tenth running journal entry says ‘ Ran a whole mile today, only stopped twice, 11 minutes AWESOME’ I promised my wife that I would never EVER get a tattoo When I finish an Ironman, I will get a tattoo, and my wife is cool with that One of my best friends in college was raped and murdered during a run in the mountains of NC Sometimes the death penalty just isn’t enough Women should never run alone in secluded areas I will run the Karen Styles memorial 5k every year for the rest of my life

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<< Lessons learned. Brian, Thanks so much for posting this. You said some very insightful things. I have saved your post in my personal file. Thanks so much!!! Kimberli

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"Tom Henderson" wrote Swimming is all about mechanics Technique, endurance and strength go hand in hand. Yes, but in that order. A pound of technique makes up for a truckload of strength and endurance, and even a truckload of strength and endurance won’t make up for bad technique.

They have to go together. Great technique will not overcome no endurance and no strength, for other than sprints. Lance is the greatest athlete of my generation Lance who. Lance Armstrong, the only roadie who can swim!

Don’t believe I’ve heard of him….. Tim

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"Tom Henderson" wrote Yes, but in that order. A pound of technique makes up for a truckload of strength and endurance, and even a truckload of strength and endurance won’t make up for bad technique. They have to go together. Great technique will not overcome no endurance and no strength,

Interesting, I have exactly the opposite experience. in a 25 or 50 yard sprint, I have seen stronger swimmers beat those with better technique. Endurance is not a factor at these distances. Lance is the greatest athlete of my generation Lance who. Lance Armstrong, the only roadie who can swim! Don’t believe I’ve heard of him…..

Aren’t you the guy who think triathlon is in the olympics? Tim

Tom

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Swimming is all about mechanics Technique, endurance and strength go hand in hand.

Yes, but in that order. A pound of technique makes up for a truckload of strength and endurance, and even a truckload of strength and endurance won’t make up for bad technique. A good swim coach is worth twice what you pay them. If he really knows what he is doing.

That’s what he said, "a good swim coach", which would necessarily imply a coach who knows what he’s doing. A bad swim coach is more dangerous than figuring it out on your own, and figuring out on your own will take a good swim coach years to fix. Lance is the greatest athlete of my generation Lance who.

Lance Armstrong, the only roadie who can swim! Dick Hoyt ties Lance Hoyt has the biggest heart, IMHO. Only good human interest story ever on IMH show.

Are they still racing? Haven’t heard much lately. And I agree about the IMH human interest story.

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"Brian" wrote Money really can buy you speed on the bike

No. Time is the currency for speed. Time on the bike. Swimming is all about mechanics

Technique, endurance and strength go hand in hand. A good swim coach is worth twice what you pay them.

If he really knows what he is doing. Don’t make fun of people for being slow, you were there once, or are 1 injury away from being there Don’t laugh at overweight people out jogging; at least they are out there

Don’t make fun of anybody who gets out and tries. 86-degree pool water sucks (thanks to the old people for that one)

Yeah but if you can turn out good wokout times in an 86 degree pool, you will fly in a cool lake/ocean. Lance is the greatest athlete of my generation

Lance who. Dick Hoyt ties Lance

Hoyt has the biggest heart, IMHO. Only good human interest story ever on IMH show. Tim

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