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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Re: He has made unto himself a god unto himself. Reply to: [1] "Mark Earnest" Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America Newsgroups: [2] alt.christnet.prayer, [3] aus.religion.christian, [4] alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, [5] alt.religion.christianity, [6] alt.bible, [7] alt.bible.prophecy, [8] alt.religion.christian, [9] alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now, [10] alt.christnet Followup to: [11] newsgroup(s) References: "David" wrote… in reply to… Brenda Okay, maybe you would like this better. We stop fighting, and pull out of Iraq. Then Sadam decides he wants more, so he open fires on another country, and uses weapons of mass destruction in doing so. Then what do you do? and hundreds of cruise missiles, B52’s, 250,000 troops, submarines and 4 aircraft carriers is not weapons of mass destruction???? One way to put out a burning oil well is to use an explosion of similar magnitude. ****dropping a bomb in the centre of Iraq hits the oil wells.. HOW? Having 200 civilians killed puts the burning oil well out …HOW? Where did you get the 200 figure? Probably same place I did, heard it on the news, that was broadcast by one of Sadams news stations. I would be willing to bet, pure bs. Besides, they said injured, not killed I believe. Leaving Uranium to give people leukemia and various other cancers after the bombs have been dropped puts the oil wells out …HOW? What Uranium? We have used no nuclear weapons in Iraq. I think one way to have stopped Saddam is to not have helped him achieve power in the first place. Brenda When we trained him, he was an a friend to the U.S. because he was fighting Iran. But when he attacked Kuwait, he became an enemy. I know you probably think we should have let the inspections continue? Well they really were not working? They were finding only what Sadam wanted them to find. Remember Sadam said, they had no missiles that were over the limits of the sanctions. What did the inspectors find? Remember Sadam said they had no Scud missiles? And just what did he fire at Kuwait? So you see, Sadam is a liar, and a power hungry dictator, the type dictator that can be dangerous. Just a quick question here, Larry. If he did have those Chem, and Bio WMD hidden under the palaces, and we blew them up, didn’t we release a lot of that stuff into the atmoshere? It will travel the jet streams around the world, causing grief to all, if that is the case. Richard, yes it is possible they could have been released. But not probable. Here is why I say that. I doubt he has them stored in his palace’s. I feel they are probably hidden somewhere in a bunker beneath the desert. Why do I say this? 2 reasons, 1 being I don’t think Sadam would even want that stuff anywhere around him, 2 I don’t think Sadam is even that stupid, knowing that is the first place inspectors will look.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Re: He has made unto himself a god unto himself. Reply to: [1] Jon Jones Newsgroups: [2] alt.christnet.prayer, [3] aus.religion.christian, [4] alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, [5] alt.religion.christianity, [6] alt.bible, [7] alt.bible.prophecy, [8] alt.religion.christian, [9] alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now, [10] alt.christnet Followup to: [11] newsgroup(s) References: Leaving Uranium to give people leukemia and various other cancers after the bombs have been dropped puts the oil wells out …HOW? What Uranium? We have used no nuclear weapons in Iraq. Tank armor and the shells the tanks fire contain depleted Uranium. There is an ongoing debate about the effects on U.S. troops and civilians arising frrom their use. ***an Iraqi ex-patriot living here has had an aunt die of leukemia because of Uranium poisoning from Desert Storm. Brenda

Ok, I will take your word on this, as I have not heard anything about it. But this still gets away from the main point. How do you suggest we solve the matter? It is kinda of ironic though. After 9/11, all the world was behind USA, but not much was really offered to help us. England was pretty good about it. Don’t remember if Canada got involved or not. But now we want to stop another type of terrorist, and now the world is against us. But if this same man, attacks another country, who is the first country they turn to for help, USA. So I guess you could say in a way, we are just stopping this from happening. Have you ever heard of GORDON SINCLAIR. He is a Canadian that wrote a piece about America back in 73 I believe. Good article, and I feel that, that article fits today, as well as it did then. Larry

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Brenda, I have to disagree with that statement. Terrorist attack America, because we are on of the riches and most powerful countries in the world. And the terrorist’s do not like this. Besides, who said it was Muslim’s? Yes it was in a way, extremist Muslim’s. But a true Muslim believes in Peace. So as you can see, terrorist’s only really care about one thing, death and destruction, why do you think they are called terrorist.

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Richard, yes it is possible they could have been released. But not probable. Here is why I say that. I doubt he has them stored in his palace’s. I feel they are probably hidden somewhere in a bunker beneath the desert. Why do I say this? 2 reasons, 1 being I don’t think Sadam would even want that stuff anywhere around him, 2 I don’t think Sadam is even that stupid, knowing that is the first place inspectors will look. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Just a quick question here, Larry. If he did have those Chem, and Bio WMD hidden under the palaces, and we blew them up, didn’t we release a lot of that stuff into the atmoshere? It will travel the jet streams around the world, causing grief to all, if that is the case.

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***an Iraqi ex-patriot living here has had an aunt die of leukemia because of Uranium poisoning from Desert Storm. Brenda

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***I disagree…if this were true Canada would have had terrorist attacks from muslim countries….and many others would too. We have not. Muslim Middle East as a majority dislikes/hates America over many other countries. With backing….they would have seen that America is not alone…without Backing….they see America as even more a rogue nation. Brenda

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Re: He has made unto himself a god unto himself. Reply to: [1] Larry Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Newsgroups: [2] alt.christnet.prayer, [3] aus.religion.christian, [4] alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, [5] alt.religion.christianity, [6] alt.bible, [7] alt.bible.prophecy, [8] alt.religion.christian, [9] alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now, [10] alt.christnet Followup to: [11] newsgroup(s) References: Re: He has made unto himself a god unto himself. Reply to: [1] Larry Organization: Posted via Supernews, [13] http://www.supernews.com Newsgroups: [2] alt.christnet.prayer, [3] aus.religion.christian, [4] alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, [5] alt.religion.christianity, [6] alt.bible, [7] alt.bible.prophecy, [8] alt.religion.christian, [9] alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now, [10] alt.christnet Followup to: [11] newsgroup(s) References: <snip Alex: ****snip When I saw that first missile hit Bagdad live on CNN, I had misty eyes. Me, being pro-war, I had to wonder how many demonstrators had the same emotiona l ***yuck! how could anyone with a heart be pro-war? War is all about not being able to do yourself what you tell your children to do…that is "stop hitting Timmy! you can’t go around hitting other children! violence solves nothing! You need how to sit down and figure out a peaceful solution with Timmy" Defense is one thing…going into a country without the backing of the rest of the world and killing civilians because you "think" that their leader has weapons of mass destruction is wrong and incredibly arrogant. Bush has himself used the term "God" in his war speeches….which makes him no different than those "fanatics" who see God as on their side. Peace demonstrators are against warring on ANY side…not just against US. involvement and Britain. Bush does not represent the majority of the American people..nor does The British PM. of the Brits. my opinion. Brenda Brenda, Thank you for your opinion. In a way I agree with it, and in a way I do not. I guess you can say, I am a anti-pro-war person. Anti, as in I do not like wars, for too many innocent people die in them. Pro as in sometimes it is necessary to go to war. As for Sadam and his hence men, a lot of people fell the inspections was working. Well yes and no. Yes he was letting inspectors see more, but look how long he put off. Had time to move what he wanted to hide out of there. And he has yet to shown any prove that he destroyed all his Chemical weapons. And I don’t think he has. He said he never had any missiles that were illegal, then ***innocent people should not be killed because of rumours. What rumors. Sadam said he did not have any weapons of mass destruction. And what do the inspectors find, missiles that go well beyond the 93 mile range. And he has never proven that he destroyed all the chemical and biological weapons. Just said he did. ***Did Bush destroy all his weapons? and why did Saddam get trained by the CIA if they were not at first all for him?

Bush did not have to destroy all of his weapons. He was not ordered by the UN to do such. I answered your cia statement in another posting. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -he did. You see, this is a man, that must have absolute power. It is what he enjoys. In a way he is kinda of like Hitler, and in a way he is worse. I feel, he was only letting the inspectors see what he wanted them to see. Did you notice he did not allow the missiles to be destroyed until the the threat of what might happen came out. Have you noticed what Sadam said would happen if America attacked. He would fight us anywhere, land, sea, and in the air, world wide. I take this statement as being in bed with the terrorists. As for you statement, that the majority of Americans, do not support this. Just saw on news this morning, that 76% of Americans do support this action. Sounds like a majority to me. ***and you probably heard that on an American news channel. Was heard on CNN matter of fact. So what are you saying you are anti-American? ***hardly..my ancestors are..my boyfriend is American. What I AM saying however is that in the midst of war..you cannot just swallow anything that comes out of the media from the countries involved. Once again, I do not like war, but sometimes, you have to do what you have to do. Larry ***then why is the majority of the UN not for it? well don’t know why some are not for it, but as for Germany and I believe Russia, where do you think they get a lot of there oil from. As for France, they have a contract to work on Iraq’s oil wells. If destroyed, no more contract. ****so it’s about oil then and not bringing freedom to Iraquis? Human life is not worth destroying over oil.

No from America’s point, it is about bringing freedom to Iraqis. Nothing to do with oil. Germany and Russia did not want the war, because of oil. And France did not want the war because of oil. Yes we get some oil from them also, but only 2%. So you see, it is about getting rid of Sadam and his regime. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Brenda Okay, maybe you would like this better. We stop fighting, and pull out of Iraq. Then Sadam decides he wants more, so he open fires on another country, and uses weapons of mass destruction in doing so. Then what do you do? ***we wait until the UN gives a majority support and backing for this. Why do you feel that the U.S. has to big-daddy every country out there? I am against Saddam..but I am for the people of Iraq. Some people are happy about the invasion of their soil by America..some are not. I believe that if you want peace..then you must be peaceful.. It worked for Gandhi….it worked for Jesus. If you don’t want these dictators running hell-bent over countries then stop training them and supporting them because they are’nt communists. Brenda

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Re: He has made unto himself a god unto himself. Reply to: [1] David Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Newsgroups: [2] alt.christnet.prayer, [3] aus.religion.christian, [4] alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, [5] alt.religion.christianity, [6] alt.bible, [7] alt.bible.prophecy, [8] alt.religion.christian, [9] alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now, [10] alt.christnet Followup to: [11] newsgroup(s) References: **snip and hundreds of cruise missiles, B52’s, 250,000 troops, submarines and 4 aircraft carriers is not weapons of mass destruction???? ***I agree. What I am thinking of is that if the US waited for a majority to go along with them…then they would have had better safety. Saddam and many other terrorists would see that the whole world supports Bush..not just Britain and a few other countries. NOw the finger is pointed at the states so much that there is more chance of terrorist acts happenning there. The Terrorist see the US as standing alone…as being the main perpetrators. For Americans sake…I hope not. I have relatives and a boyfriend there as well as much love and respect for American folks. God speed to the troops. Brenda

Brenda, That may be true. But terrorists do not care who supports who. They really have not motive so to speak. Except maybe destruction and wipe out the American pigs, as we have been called.

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Where did you get the 200 figure? Probably same place I did, heard it on the news, that was broadcast by one of Sadams news stations. I would be willing to bet, pure bs. Besides, they said injured, not killed I believe. Leaving Uranium to give people leukemia and various other cancers after the bombs have been dropped puts the oil wells out …HOW?

What Uranium? We have used no nuclear weapons in Iraq. I think one way to have stopped Saddam is to not have helped him achieve power in the first place. Brenda

When we trained him, he was an a friend to the U.S. because he was fighting Iran. But when he attacked Kuwait, he became an enemy. I know you probably think we should have let the inspections continue? Well they really were not working? They were finding only what Sadam wanted them to find. Remember Sadam said, they had no missiles that were over the limits of the sanctions. What did the inspectors find? Remember Sadam said they had no Scud missiles? And just what did he fire at Kuwait? So you see, Sadam is a liar, and a power hungry dictator, the type dictator that can be dangerous.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Re: He has made unto himself a god unto himself. Reply to: [1] Larry Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Newsgroups: [2] alt.christnet.prayer, [3] aus.religion.christian, [4] alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, [5] alt.religion.christianity, [6] alt.bible, [7] alt.bible.prophecy, [8] alt.religion.christian, [9] alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now, [10] alt.christnet Followup to: [11] newsgroup(s) References: <snip Alex: ****snip When I saw that first missile hit Bagdad live on CNN, I had misty eyes. Me, being pro-war, I had to wonder how many demonstrators had the same emotional ***yuck! how could anyone with a heart be pro-war? War is all about not being able to do yourself what you tell your children to do…that is "stop hitting Timmy! you can’t go around hitting other children! violence solves nothing! You need how to sit down and figure out a peaceful solution with Timmy" Defense is one thing…going into a country without the backing of the rest of the world and killing civilians because you "think" that their leader has weapons of mass destruction is wrong and incredibly arrogant. Bush has himself used the term "God" in his war speeches….which makes him no different than those "fanatics" who see God as on their side. Peace demonstrators are against warring on ANY side…not just against US. involvement and Britain. Bush does not represent the majority of the American people..nor does The British PM. of the Brits. my opinion. Brenda Brenda, Thank you for your opinion. In a way I agree with it, and in a way I do not. I guess you can say, I am a anti-pro-war person. Anti, as in I do not like wars, for too many innocent people die in them. Pro as in sometimes it is necessary to go to war. As for Sadam and his hence men, a lot of people fell the inspections was working. Well yes and no. Yes he was letting inspectors see more, but look how long he put off. Had time to move what he wanted to hide out of there. And he has yet to shown any prove that he destroyed all his Chemical weapons. And I don’t think he has. He said he never had any missiles that were illegal, then ***innocent people should not be killed because of rumours. What rumors. Sadam said he did not have any weapons of mass destruction. And what do the inspectors find, missiles that go well beyond the 93 mile range. And he has never proven that he destroyed all the chemical and biological weapons. Just said he did. he did. You see, this is a man, that must have absolute power. It is what he enjoys. In a way he is kinda of like Hitler, and in a way he is worse. I feel, he was only letting the inspectors see what he wanted them to see. Did you notice he did not allow the missiles to be destroyed until the the threat of what might happen came out. Have you noticed what Sadam said would happen if America attacked. He would fight us anywhere, land, sea, and in the air, world wide. I take this statement as being in bed with the terrorists. As for you statement, that the majority of Americans, do not support this. Just saw on news this morning, that 76% of Americans do support this action. Sounds like a majority to me. ***and you probably heard that on an American news channel. Was heard on CNN matter of fact. So what are you saying you are anti-American? Once again, I do not like war, but sometimes, you have to do what you have to do. Larry ***then why is the majority of the UN not for it? well don’t know why some are not for it, but as for Germany and I believe Russia, where do you think they get a lot of there oil from. As for France, they have a contract to work on Iraq’s oil wells. If destroyed, no more contract. Brenda Okay, maybe you would like this better. We stop fighting, and pull out of Iraq. Then Sadam decides he wants more, so he open fires on another country, and uses weapons of mass destruction in doing so. Then what do you do? and hundreds of cruise missiles, B52’s, 250,000 troops, submarines and 4 aircraft carriers is not weapons of mass destruction????

Yes and no. They can be if not used properly. But with the tech. we have today, we can hit what we aim at. Military targets.

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**snip and hundreds of cruise missiles, B52’s, 250,000 troops, submarines and 4 aircraft carriers is not weapons of mass destruction????

***I agree. What I am thinking of is that if the US waited for a majority to go along with them…then they would have had better safety. Saddam and many other terrorists would see that the whole world supports Bush..not just Britain and a few other countries. NOw the finger is pointed at the states so much that there is more chance of terrorist acts happenning there. The Terrorist see the US as standing alone…as being the main perpetrators. For Americans sake…I hope not. I have relatives and a boyfriend there as well as much love and respect for American folks. God speed to the troops. Brenda

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****dropping a bomb in the centre of Iraq hits the oil wells.. HOW? Having 200 civilians killed puts the burning oil well out …HOW? Leaving Uranium to give people leukemia and various other cancers after the bombs have been dropped puts the oil wells out …HOW? I think one way to have stopped Saddam is to not have helped him achieve power in the first place. Brenda

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in reply to… Brenda Okay, maybe you would like this better. We stop fighting, and pull out of Iraq. Then Sadam decides he wants more, so he open fires on another country, and uses weapons of mass destruction in doing so. Then what do you do? and hundreds of cruise missiles, B52’s, 250,000 troops, submarines and 4 aircraft carriers is not weapons of mass destruction????

One way to put out a burning oil well is to use an explosion of similar magnitude.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Re: He has made unto himself a god unto himself. Reply to: [1] Larry Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Newsgroups: [2] alt.christnet.prayer, [3] aus.religion.christian, [4] alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, [5] alt.religion.christianity, [6] alt.bible, [7] alt.bible.prophecy, [8] alt.religion.christian, [9] alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now, [10] alt.christnet Followup to: [11] newsgroup(s) References: <snip Alex: ****snip When I saw that first missile hit Bagdad live on CNN, I had misty eyes. Me, being pro-war, I had to wonder how many demonstrators had the same emotional ***yuck! how could anyone with a heart be pro-war? War is all about not being able to do yourself what you tell your children to do…that is "stop hitting Timmy! you can’t go around hitting other children! violence solves nothing! You need how to sit down and figure out a peaceful solution with Timmy" Defense is one thing…going into a country without the backing of the rest of the world and killing civilians because you "think" that their leader has weapons of mass destruction is wrong and incredibly arrogant. Bush has himself used the term "God" in his war speeches….which makes him no different than those "fanatics" who see God as on their side. Peace demonstrators are against warring on ANY side…not just against US. involvement and Britain. Bush does not represent the majority of the American people..nor does The British PM. of the Brits. my opinion. Brenda Brenda, Thank you for your opinion. In a way I agree with it, and in a way I do not. I guess you can say, I am a anti-pro-war person. Anti, as in I do not like wars, for too many innocent people die in them. Pro as in sometimes it is necessary to go to war. As for Sadam and his hence men, a lot of people fell the inspections was working. Well yes and no. Yes he was letting inspectors see more, but look how long he put off. Had time to move what he wanted to hide out of there. And he has yet to shown any prove that he destroyed all his Chemical weapons. And I don’t think he has. He said he never had any missiles that were illegal, then ***innocent people should not be killed because of rumours. What rumors. Sadam said he did not have any weapons of mass destruction. And what do the inspectors find, missiles that go well beyond the 93 mile range. And he has never proven that he destroyed all the chemical and biological weapons. Just said he did. he did. You see, this is a man, that must have absolute power. It is what he enjoys. In a way he is kinda of like Hitler, and in a way he is worse. I feel, he was only letting the inspectors see what he wanted them to see. Did you notice he did not allow the missiles to be destroyed until the the threat of what might happen came out. Have you noticed what Sadam said would happen if America attacked. He would fight us anywhere, land, sea, and in the air, world wide. I take this statement as being in bed with the terrorists. As for you statement, that the majority of Americans, do not support this. Just saw on news this morning, that 76% of Americans do support this action. Sounds like a majority to me. ***and you probably heard that on an American news channel. Was heard on CNN matter of fact. So what are you saying you are anti-American? Once again, I do not like war, but sometimes, you have to do what you have to do. Larry ***then why is the majority of the UN not for it? well don’t know why some are not for it, but as for Germany and I believe Russia, where do you think they get a lot of there oil from. As for France, they have a contract to work on Iraq’s oil wells. If destroyed, no more contract. Brenda Okay, maybe you would like this better. We stop fighting, and pull out of Iraq. Then Sadam decides he wants more, so he open fires on another country, and uses weapons of mass destruction in doing so. Then what do you do?

and hundreds of cruise missiles, B52’s, 250,000 troops, submarines and 4 aircraft carriers is not weapons of mass destruction????

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***Did Bush destroy all his weapons? and why did Saddam get trained by the CIA if they were not at first all for him? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -he did. You see, this is a man, that must have absolute power. It is what he enjoys. In a way he is kinda of like Hitler, and in a way he is worse. I feel, he was only letting the inspectors see what he wanted them to see. Did you notice he did not allow the missiles to be destroyed until the the threat of what might happen came out. Have you noticed what Sadam said would happen if America attacked. He would fight us anywhere, land, sea, and in the air, world wide. I take this statement as being in bed with the terrorists. As for you statement, that the majority of Americans, do not support this. Just saw on news this morning, that 76% of Americans do support this action. Sounds like a majority to me. ***and you probably heard that on an American news channel. Was heard on CNN matter of fact. So what are you saying you are anti-American?

***hardly..my ancestors are..my boyfriend is American. What I AM saying however is that in the midst of war..you cannot just swallow anything that comes out of the media from the countries involved. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Once again, I do not like war, but sometimes, you have to do what you have to do. Larry ***then why is the majority of the UN not for it? well don’t know why some are not for it, but as for Germany and I believe Russia, where do you think they get a lot of there oil from. As for France, they have a contract to work on Iraq’s oil wells. If destroyed, no more contract.

****so it’s about oil then and not bringing freedom to Iraquis? Human life is not worth destroying over oil. Brenda Okay, maybe you would like this better. We stop fighting, and pull out of Iraq. Then Sadam decides he wants more, so he open fires on another country, and uses weapons of mass destruction in doing so. Then what do you do?

***we wait until the UN gives a majority support and backing for this. Why do you feel that the U.S. has to big-daddy every country out there? I am against Saddam..but I am for the people of Iraq. Some people are happy about the invasion of their soil by America..some are not. I believe that if you want peace..then you must be peaceful.. It worked for Gandhi….it worked for Jesus. If you don’t want these dictators running hell-bent over countries then stop training them and supporting them because they are’nt communists. Brenda

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What rumors. Sadam said he did not have any weapons of mass destruction. And what do the inspectors find, missiles that go well beyond the 93 mile range. And he has never proven that he destroyed all the chemical and biological weapons. Just said he did. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -he did. You see, this is a man, that must have absolute power. It is what he enjoys. In a way he is kinda of like Hitler, and in a way he is worse. I feel, he was only letting the inspectors see what he wanted them to see. Did you notice he did not allow the missiles to be destroyed until the the threat of what might happen came out. Have you noticed what Sadam said would happen if America attacked. He would fight us anywhere, land, sea, and in the air, world wide. I take this statement as being in bed with the terrorists. As for you statement, that the majority of Americans, do not support this. Just saw on news this morning, that 76% of Americans do support this action. Sounds like a majority to me. ***and you probably heard that on an American news channel.

Was heard on CNN matter of fact. So what are you saying you are anti-American? Once again, I do not like war, but sometimes, you have to do what you have to do. Larry ***then why is the majority of the UN not for it?

well don’t know why some are not for it, but as for Germany and I believe Russia, where do you think they get a lot of there oil from. As for France, they have a contract to work on Iraq’s oil wells. If destroyed, no more contract. Brenda

Okay, maybe you would like this better. We stop fighting, and pull out of Iraq. Then Sadam decides he wants more, so he open fires on another country, and uses weapons of mass destruction in doing so. Then what do you do?

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***innocent people should not be killed because of rumours. he did. You see, this is a man, that must have absolute power. It is what he enjoys. In a way he is kinda of like Hitler, and in a way he is worse. I feel, he was only letting the inspectors see what he wanted them to see. Did you notice he did not allow the missiles to be destroyed until the the threat of what might happen came out. Have you noticed what Sadam said would happen if America attacked. He would fight us anywhere, land, sea, and in the air, world wide. I take this statement as being in bed with the terrorists. As for you statement, that the majority of Americans, do not support this. Just saw on news this morning, that 76% of Americans do support this action. Sounds like a majority to me.

***and you probably heard that on an American news channel. Once again, I do not like war, but sometimes, you have to do what you have to do. Larry

***then why is the majority of the UN not for it? Brenda

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<snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alex: ****snip When I saw that first missile hit Bagdad live on CNN, I had misty eyes. Me, being pro-war, I had to wonder how many demonstrators had the same emotional ***yuck! how could anyone with a heart be pro-war? War is all about not being able to do yourself what you tell your children to do…that is "stop hitting Timmy! you can’t go around hitting other children! violence solves nothing! You need how to sit down and figure out a peaceful solution with Timmy" Defense is one thing…going into a country without the backing of the rest of the world and killing civilians because you "think" that their leader has weapons of mass destruction is wrong and incredibly arrogant. Bush has himself used the term "God" in his war speeches….which makes him no different than those "fanatics" who see God as on their side. Peace demonstrators are against warring on ANY side…not just against US. involvement and Britain. Bush does not represent the majority of the American people..nor does The British PM. of the Brits. my opinion. Brenda

Brenda, Thank you for your opinion. In a way I agree with it, and in a way I do not. I guess you can say, I am a anti-pro-war person. Anti, as in I do not like wars, for too many innocent people die in them. Pro as in sometimes it is necessary to go to war. As for Sadam and his hence men, a lot of people fell the inspections was working. Well yes and no. Yes he was letting inspectors see more, but look how long he put off. Had time to move what he wanted to hide out of there. And he has yet to shown any prove that he destroyed all his Chemical weapons. And I don’t think he has. He said he never had any missiles that were illegal, then he did. You see, this is a man, that must have absolute power. It is what he enjoys. In a way he is kinda of like Hitler, and in a way he is worse. I feel, he was only letting the inspectors see what he wanted them to see. Did you notice he did not allow the missiles to be destroyed until the the threat of what might happen came out. Have you noticed what Sadam said would happen if America attacked. He would fight us anywhere, land, sea, and in the air, world wide. I take this statement as being in bed with the terrorists. As for you statement, that the majority of Americans, do not support this. Just saw on news this morning, that 76% of Americans do support this action. Sounds like a majority to me. Once again, I do not like war, but sometimes, you have to do what you have to do. Larry

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Michael, I have seen these so called peace rallies turn violent myself brother. Kinda of makes a mockery of the term peace rally huh? I just saw on the news today, at a peace rally, a guy getting beaten up by the peace activists, and they even getting in his car and I think we going to yank out others. And they have the gall to march for peace, and do that. Larry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I see peace rallies turning violent. Does anyone see anything in this? Let me tell you what is to be seen. Mini invasions on Iraq. The very thing that is protested about is the very thing that is inherent. What great delusion besets man. Great is the Lord in patience and longsuffering…but for how long. Psalm 8:3-9 (KJV): When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! O Lord, but what has he done!!! My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit. In them is no darkness at all.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I see peace rallies turning violent. Does anyone see anything in this? Peace rallies often turn violent. This is only to be expected. A demonstration is usually fuelled by anger. And anger is not a peaceful thing. Demonstrators in these cases range from those simply convinced that the war is wrong, to those who believe that the whole of western society is evil and should be done away with (in these latter cases these are usually people who have lived in, and enjoyed the comforts of, western society all their lives). There is plenty of kindling here to start a fire. I would have been very surprised if there had been no violence.

‘The very thing that is protested about is the very thing that is inherent.’ So where do you think a man’s energy should be spent? My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit. In them is no darkness at all.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Re: He has made unto himself a god unto himself. Reply to: [1] Alexander Kalinowski Newsgroups: [2] alt.christnet.prayer, [3] alt.christnet.christianlife, [4] aus.religion.christian, [5] alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, [6] alt.religion.christianity, [7] alt.bible, [8] alt.bible.prophecy, [9] alt.religion.christian, [10] alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now, [11] alt.christnet Followup to: [12] newsgroup(s) References: Alex:

****snip When I saw that first missile hit Bagdad live on CNN, I had misty eyes. Me, being pro-war, I had to wonder how many demonstrators had the same emotional

***yuck! how could anyone with a heart be pro-war? War is all about not being able to do yourself what you tell your children to do…that is "stop hitting Timmy! you can’t go around hitting other children! violence solves nothing! You need how to sit down and figure out a peaceful solution with Timmy" Defense is one thing…going into a country without the backing of the rest of the world and killing civilians because you "think" that their leader has weapons of mass destruction is wrong and incredibly arrogant. Bush has himself used the term "God" in his war speeches….which makes him no different than those "fanatics" who see God as on their side. Peace demonstrators are against warring on ANY side…not just against US. involvement and Britain. Bush does not represent the majority of the American people..nor does The British PM. of the Brits. my opinion. Brenda

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: I see peace rallies turning violent. : : Does anyone see anything in this? : Peace rallies often turn violent. This is only to be expected. A : demonstration is usually fuelled by anger. And anger is not a peaceful : thing. Demonstrators in these cases range from those simply convinced that : the war is wrong, to those who believe that the whole of western society is : evil and should be done away with (in these latter cases these are usually : people who have lived in, and enjoyed the comforts of, western society all : their lives). : There is plenty of kindling here to start a fire. I would have been very : surprised if there had been no violence. Alex: What’s even more interesting: almost none of the German and French (and so on) demomstrators have given a hoop for the Iraqi people for the last 12 years or so. Now that it’s against the US, they all turn to the streets. When I saw that first missile hit Bagdad live on CNN, I had misty eyes. Me, being pro-war, I had to wonder how many demonstrators had the same emotional reaction. Even worse: knowing what Germans are like and how much ethics they have in daily life (especially in their love life), I cannot help but feel that those demonstrators are hypocrits when I hear them talk about ethics and morals. Ethics starts with one’s won actions. In one’s own daily life. — Waiting for you to return.

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I see peace rallies turning violent. Does anyone see anything in this?

Peace rallies often turn violent. This is only to be expected. A demonstration is usually fuelled by anger. And anger is not a peaceful thing. Demonstrators in these cases range from those simply convinced that the war is wrong, to those who believe that the whole of western society is evil and should be done away with (in these latter cases these are usually people who have lived in, and enjoyed the comforts of, western society all their lives). There is plenty of kindling here to start a fire. I would have been very surprised if there had been no violence. — ama semper quisquis noces

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I see peace rallies turning violent. Does anyone see anything in this? Let me tell you what is to be seen. Mini invasions on Iraq. The very thing that is protested about is the very thing that is inherent. What great delusion besets man. Great is the Lord in patience and longsuffering…but for how long. Psalm 8:3-9 (KJV): When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! O Lord, but what has he done!!! My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit. In them is no darkness at all.

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