Nutrient deficiencies and Cancer

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On 07 Apr 2004 15:22:37 GMT, entcons…@aol.comnospam (ENTconsult) wrote: >Actually this is quite logical. A cancer cell is a fast growing "young " cell >so it would use more enzymes and growth aids. Now we try to block circulation >to the cancer cell. >As to autoimmune diseases, we know how to stop them successfully – all you need >is enough cortisone, prednisone. Unfortunately there are a few side effects. >Murray Grossan, M.D. >http://www.ent-consult.com

Wrong, you are right in that too much antioxidants will make the virus grow stronger. Cutting off the immune system is not the answer. Remember without a balanced daily meal with antioxidants you will/can get canser.ie Oxidants cause canser.I suggest anti-oxidants to anyone who has a poor diet, myself included on those McDonalds days. good health

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I’m coming back to your side of sorts after considerable thought. The key is to keep the host immune system strong! but also attack the cells that are replicating. The key is to get the steroids into those cells. If they are trying this I don’t know. Thanks for getting me thinking on canser. I think we came up with the best treatment for it.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:53:07 +0100, "Ken.W" <kenw…@ocis.net> wrote: >Funded by cancer research…. >The following abstract and conclusion were published by Dr. Bruce Ames of >the >University of California, Berkeley. >A nice printable version of the entire article is found at >http://ehscenter.berkeley.edu/publications/01_ames_1.pdf >ABSTRACT >DNA damage from micronutrient deficiencies is likely to be a major cause of >cancer. A Deficiency of any of the micronutrients: folic acid, Vitamin B12, >Vitamin B6, niacin, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, iron, or zinc, mimics radiation in >damaging DNA by causing single- and double-strand breaks, oxidative lesions, >or >both. For example, the percentage of the US population that has a low intake >(<50% of the RDA) for each of these eight micronutrients ranges from 2 to >>20%. >A level of folate deficiency causing chromosome breaks was present in >approximately 10% of the US population, and in a much higher percentage of >the >poor. Folate deficiency causes extensive incorporation of uracil into human >DNA >(4 million/cell), leading to chromosomal breaks. This mechanism is the >likely >cause of the increased colon cancer risk associated with low folate intake. >Some evidence, and mechanistic considerations, suggest that Vitamin B12 (14% >US >elderly) and B6 (10% of US) deficiencies also cause high uracil and >chromosome >breaks. Micronutrient deficiency may explain, in good part, why the quarter >of >the population that eats the fewest fruits and vegetables (five portions a >day >is advised) has about double the cancer rate for most types of cancer when >compared to the quarter with the highest intake. For example, 80% of >American >children and adolescents and 68% of adults do not eat five portions a day. >Common micronutrient deficiencies are likely to damage DNA by the same >mechanism as radiation and many chemicals, appear to be orders of magnitude >more important, and should be compared for perspective. Remedying >micronutrient >deficiencies should lead to a major improvement in health and an increase in >longevity at low cost. >Conclusion >Optimizing micronutrient intake (through better diets, fortification of >foods, >or multivitamin-mineral pills) can have a major impact on public health at >low >cost. Other micronutrients are likely to be added to the list of those >whose >deficiency causes DNA damage in the coming years. Tuning-up human >metabolism, >which varies with genetic constitution and changes with age, is likely to be >a >major way to minimize DNA damage, improve health and prolong healthy >lifespan.

great article! Cancer is a reactive infection. A healthy body is the cure for this. The secrets out. good health to all. Diseases will still be out there because many bacteria,viruses have "beaten" even healthy immune systems. AIDS,Lyme,chrons, etc, etc. so collodial siver and/or antibiotics/viral drugs are needed.

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Dali wrote: > great article! Cancer is a reactive infection. A healthy body is the > cure for this. The secrets out. good health to all. Diseases will > still be out there because many bacteria,viruses have "beaten" even > healthy immune systems. AIDS,Lyme,chrons, etc, etc. so collodial siver > and/or antibiotics/viral drugs are needed.

Now I see. You’re just another troll after cross-posting this to a bunch of other newsgroups.

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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:48:10 -0300, Bruce <cw…@hotmail.com> wrote: >Dali wrote: >> great article! Cancer is a reactive infection. A healthy body is the >> cure for this. The secrets out. good health to all. Diseases will >> still be out there because many bacteria,viruses have "beaten" even >> healthy immune systems. AIDS,Lyme,chrons, etc, etc. so collodial siver >> and/or antibiotics/viral drugs are needed. >Now I see. You’re just another troll after cross-posting this to a >bunch of other newsgroups.

Whatever, it applies to all group. I’m begging you guys to leave me alone. what else can i do. READ I crosspost because I get the same reaction from every "autoimmune" group file, please killfile me! I crosspost for a reason and I have also told the netcops this. Is this what the internet has become. what free world is this? Leave me Alone

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In <news:si8370h4d8l9c0p52v0hpg0jvnnabc0jhj@4ax.com>, Dali said: > I crosspost because I get the same reaction from every "autoimmune" > group file, please killfile me! I crosspost for a reason and I have > also told the netcops this. Is this what the internet has become. what > free world is this? Leave me Alone

You want freedom to do as you please, anywhere you please, anytime you please, and you’re asking for others to restrict themselves in order to make it easy on you? Get real. Get a life. Get stuffed. ((U)) M

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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:16:19 -0700, "Michael" <muirh…@haidagwaii.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->In <news:si8370h4d8l9c0p52v0hpg0jvnnabc0jhj@4ax.com>, >Dali said: >> I crosspost because I get the same reaction from every "autoimmune" >> group file, please killfile me! I crosspost for a reason and I have >> also told the netcops this. Is this what the internet has become. what >> free world is this? Leave me Alone >You want freedom to do as you please, anywhere you please, anytime you >please, and you’re asking for others to restrict themselves in order to make >it easy on you? >Get real. Get a life. Get stuffed. >((U)) > M

What part of Leave me alone did you not get. huh moron. It’s shits like you that I have to put up with. Leave this thread. READ I crosspost because I get the same reaction from every "autoimmune" group file, please killfile me! I crosspost for a reason in that all diseases are reactive infections ands can be explained. For any netkops who are out there please do not respond to this message. Leave me Alone. KILL File ME

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On 07 Apr 2004 04:18:33 GMT, entcons…@aol.comnospam (ENTconsult) wrote: >Regarding good nutrition ot prevent cancer, the current thinking is that the >abundance of vitamins helps the cancer grow. Efforts today are to prevent this. >Murray Grossan, M.D. >http://www.ent-consult.com

Anything in abundance is bad. Too much antioxidants will make the cancer grow quicker. I agree a good diet is the key. How many in America eat this? 10% maybe. The poorer you are the lest chance of eating proper. Nice to hear a rational person on the internet. too few of them exist in most groups.

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In <news:6e9370lp2u3eg4r6u56isg0t9pgnt9gtq4@4ax.com>, Dali said: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:16:19 -0700, "Michael" <muirh…@haidagwaii.net> > wrote: >> In <news:si8370h4d8l9c0p52v0hpg0jvnnabc0jhj@4ax.com>, >> Dali said: >>> I crosspost because I get the same reaction from every "autoimmune" >>> group file, please killfile me! I crosspost for a reason and I have >>> also told the netcops this. Is this what the internet has become. >>> what free world is this? Leave me Alone >> You want freedom to do as you please, anywhere you please, anytime >> you please, and you’re asking for others to restrict themselves in >> order to make it easy on you? >> Get real. Get a life. Get stuffed. >> ((U)) >> M > What part of Leave me alone did you not get. huh moron. It’s shits > like you that I have to put up with. Leave this thread.

Not only are you insisting on having your say, you’re ordering others to shut up so no one hears anyone but you. You’re not about freedom of speech at all… you’re just another agenda-driven net Nazi. If you want free speech, you have to accept unfettered opposition. Package deal. Don’t like the heat? Get out of the kitchen.

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>> What part of Leave me alone did you not get. huh moron. It’s shits >> like you that I have to put up with. Leave this thread. >Not only are you insisting on having your say, you’re ordering others to >shut up so no one hears anyone but you. >You’re not about freedom of speech at all… you’re just another >agenda-driven net Nazi. >If you want free speech, you have to accept unfettered opposition. Package >deal. >Don’t like the heat? Get out of the kitchen.

Michael, you are too kind. Forward the headers of the crosspost to ab…@rr.com and hopefully we’ll be done with Brent for once and for all. During previous threads that have been limited to alt.support.alzheimers, Brent has resorted to name-calling and name-dropping; no new content. I suspect that this is the case for each of the groups in this message. Darryl.

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Dali dude, please watch the language when posting to alt.support.crohns-colitis we have children that read this group. Thanks. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:28:16 GMT, Dali <bre…@cya.net> wrote: >On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:16:19 -0700, "Michael" <muirh…@haidagwaii.net> >wrote: >>In <news:si8370h4d8l9c0p52v0hpg0jvnnabc0jhj@4ax.com>, >>Dali said: >>> I crosspost because I get the same reaction from every "autoimmune" >>> group file, please killfile me! I crosspost for a reason and I have >>> also told the netcops this. Is this what the internet has become. what >>> free world is this? Leave me Alone >>You want freedom to do as you please, anywhere you please, anytime you >>please, and you’re asking for others to restrict themselves in order to make >>it easy on you? >>Get real. Get a life. Get stuffed. >>((U)) >> M >What part of Leave me alone did you not get. huh moron. It’s shits >like you that I have to put up with. Leave this thread. >READ >I crosspost because I get the same reaction from every "autoimmune" >group file, please killfile me! I crosspost for a reason in that all >diseases are reactive infections ands can be explained. For any >netkops who are out there please do not respond to this message. Leave >me Alone. KILL File ME

Drop PANTS before emailing. ————————————————————————– An education teaches you that you don’t know everything. Intelligence means you know where to find the information you are lacking. mgbio

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Yes I say the studies that showed that megadoses of C, E and A actually increased the risk of cancer. That is when I gave up vitamin supplements (at least large doses) a couple of years ago.

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Actually this is quite logical. A cancer cell is a fast growing "young " cell so it would use more enzymes and growth aids. Now we try to block circulation to the cancer cell. As to autoimmune diseases, we know how to stop them successfully – all you need is enough cortisone, prednisone. Unfortunately there are a few side effects. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com

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Dali wrote: > What part of Leave me alone did you not get. huh moron. It’s shits > like you that I have to put up with. Leave this thread.

How about you leave us alone, you disgusting little choad? — spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

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Regarding good nutrition ot prevent cancer, the current thinking is that the abundance of vitamins helps the cancer grow. Efforts today are to prevent this. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com

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