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admin — Thu, 10 May 2007 00:00:00 +0000

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Hi David. Sorry you’re not feeling great atm. I’m not too knowledgeable on depression, so I can’t offer any useful advice, just to say that I hope you feel better soon and that we’re here to listen if you want to vent. Take care. All the best from Steve.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – is crushing me. I feel like I’m under a million tons of rock. Wednesday I go to the hospital for a colonoscopy. It’s a simple, yet uncomfortable procedure. Tomorrow I go through the "clean out" procedure, which consists not eating anything and taking enough laxative to put me in the bathroom all day. (I know, too much information) I’m not scared of the procedure. It’s just uncomfortable and the likelihood of them finding anything wrong is low. We’re just doing it to make sure. My Dad had cancerous polyps removed from his colon and it’s hereditary, so we’re just making sure. My step mom will take me and then come and get me when it’s over, since I can’t drive myself. But all day tomorrow and for the procedure itself, I’ll be alone. And there’s that word again. Alone. I don’t know what to do anymore. David — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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David, I’m so sorry about the depression and your loneliness. :-( Do you have any plans to get out and do some RL things with others? I know this is difficult when you’re depressed. It becomes a vicious cycle. The colonoscopy: as you yourself have said, it’s a quick and relatively painless procedure. You say it’s "uncomfortable" — does the GI doctor not knock you out with Valium or other sedative through an IV first? I resisted getting heavily sedated that way (I have a phobia of anesthesia) until the scope went in and then, by God, I yelped for the meds! I was out like a light for the (short) duration of the procedure from then on, and it was a snap. Ask for extra sedation. I’m sure you’ll get through this just fine. Glad your stepmom will be taking you there and picking you up for the drive home. Thinking of you… (((((((David))))))) xxoo Anne — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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((((((((((David)))))))))))))))))) I know this test well, so I know how you’re feeling today with the joy of ‘evacuation’ Honey, you’re not alone…you have all of us to keep you company :-) I’m sure that’s not a comfort, because you want a real life person. Try to trust in the fact that your day will come, and when it does, you are more than ready. I hope the test goes well, and that they find nothing cancerous. You’re in my thoughts and I hope if nothing else…I can bring you a smile Love and hugs, Gigglz

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It’s not that I really want someone there for the procedure itself. Hell, I don’t even want to be there for it.

LOL But, going in, getting the IV, getting knocked out. Then waking up. It’s nice if there is at least someone you know there for that kind of stuff.

I was all alone for this stuff. My husband dropped me off at 8 a.m. They really didn’t allow people to wait with you at the facility I went to. We were all lined up on gurneys, wearing our johnnies and waiting our turns in the small OR where the colonoscopies are done. I woke up in my own little recovery cubicle (curtained area) with a nurse handing me a ginger ale and some saltines. It was really OK. Once the sedative is in your veins, you get kind of a happy-go-lucky mood going and breeze through it all! xxoo Anne — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Dear David, I`m sorry you are in the grips of depression. There`s a lot going on in your life the last few weeks….feelings for an old love, looking for a job and now having to go in for a invasive medical test. No wonder you feel depressed and alone. These are times I wished I lived closer to people at ASAPM…….because I would gladly spend the day with you tomorrow as to be in my thoughts tomorrow and Thursday. We will be here if you need us…..don`t ever forget that. {{{{{David}}}}}

Jackie, I want to thank you for this especially. It really meant something that you would want to be here for me. I feel the same way, often, about the people on this group. If I were a rich man, I wouldn’t be home very often. I have mostly survived the first phase, the cleanout procedure. At this point I’m mainly hungry, and can’t have anything but clear liquids, chicken broth or jello. And I forgot to buy any jello. The actual procedure is tomorrow, not Thursday, so that’s when you should be thinking about me. (OK, for you people in earlier time zones, it’s already tomorrow. But it’s Tuesday evening here.) I’m a little anxious about it, but I know they will more or less drug me out. I don’t particularly like feeling out of control, though, like these drugs make you feel sometimes. Of course, I have to remember to ask them what they are going to use, and make sure it isn’t Valium, because I can’t have that. And make sure they understand my sleep apnea, so if I go far enough under I don’t stop breathing. I’m going in at 8:00 AM and should be in for not more than four hours. I don’t know how rummy I’ll be afterwards, but I’ll try to get here as soon as I can and post, so you’ll all know. Who knows, good drugs might make for an interesting post. Thank you all for thinking of me. David — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Take care, David…. and do let us know how you are as soon as you can! And remember, we will all be with you in spirit and thought….. 8 AM Pacific time….. that’s 11 AM East coast time…. and 5 PM for Philip over in The Netherlands. I’m not even goint to attempt to figure out what time that will be for our friends down under!

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So sorry your depression is getting the best of you, David. {{{{{David}}}}} I’ll be thinking of you tomorrow. I wish you the very best, and calming vibes too. Di

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Hang in there, David. Chip

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:is crushing me. I feel like I’m under a million tons of rock. :My step mom will take me and then come and get me when it’s over, since I :can’t drive myself. But all day tomorrow and for the procedure itself, I’ll :be alone. : :And there’s that word again. Alone. I don’t know what to do anymore. Dear David, I`m sorry you are in the grips of depression. There`s a lot going on in your life the last few weeks….feelings for an old love, looking for a job and now having to go in for a invasive medical test. No wonder you feel depressed and alone. These are times I wished I lived closer to people at ASAPM…….because I would gladly spend the day with you tomorrow as to be in my thoughts tomorrow and Thursday. We will be here if you need us…..don`t ever forget that. {{{{{David}}}}} Jackie ~*~Faith is believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe~*~ ~ Voltaire ~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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is crushing me. I feel like I’m under a million tons of rock.

David, I wish I could say something to make it all better. And I’m so forgetful that I have no idea if you are on any depression meds or what it might be if you are. Just in case it applies, don’t forget I tried darn near every drug made in the past ten (?) years and nothing helped, until I went on an old trycyclic (pamelor). Who knows? Maybe it’s worth a shot? My step mom will take me and then come and get me when it’s over, since I can’t drive myself. But all day tomorrow and for the procedure itself, I’ll be alone.

I don’t think I’d WANT someone I know with me during that procedure. :~/ Squirming in my seat, Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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is crushing me. I feel like I’m under a million tons of rock. David, I wish I could say something to make it all better. And I’m so forgetful that I have no idea if you are on any depression meds or what it might be if you are. Just in case it applies, don’t forget I tried darn near every drug made in the past ten (?) years and nothing helped, until I went on an old trycyclic (pamelor). Who knows? Maybe it’s worth a shot?

That’s what I’m taking. It was working great, but the situation is getting me down, I guess. My step mom will take me and then come and get me when it’s over, since I can’t drive myself. But all day tomorrow and for the procedure itself, I’ll be alone. I don’t think I’d WANT someone I know with me during that procedure. :~/

It’s not that I really want someone there for the procedure itself. Hell, I don’t even want to be there for it. But, going in, getting the IV, getting knocked out. Then waking up. It’s nice if there is at least someone you know there for that kind of stuff. — David Chamberlain – ASAPM Moderator | Support for anxiety or panic disorders. Check us out! | | alt.support.anxiety-panic.moderated http://stump.algebra.com/~asapm | There is seldom reason or sense involved in these matters of love — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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David, These rocks will tumble in another direction one by one in time. Your loneliness will ease and you will find yourself in a different place in life emotionally. Wishing you much success with the colonoscopy. I have done similar tests and the prep is always the worst part. You’re not alone..just a bit lonely and still getting over your feelings for your former GF. This too shall pass in time. smiles, Elise

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Thank you, Mike. Just, thank you. I can’t think of any better words. David — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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1 AM AEST love Meryl — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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? There is this difference between being alone and being lonely. The curse and bane of being socially phobic is that one isolates from others-wouldn’t it be a hoot if you met someone in recovery who was real interesting. I have found people meet other people when least expecting it and not looking for it.

So true. I met a great person with SP through accident, or was it a merylism love Meryl — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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David, I wish I could say or do something to make you feel better. I know you are in so much pain with this depression. I am here if you need me, ok? Love, Vicki — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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is crushing me. I feel like I’m under a million tons of rock. Wednesday I go to the hospital for a colonoscopy. It’s a simple, yet uncomfortable procedure. Tomorrow I go through the "clean out" procedure, which consists not eating anything and taking enough laxative to put me in the bathroom all day. (I know, too much information) I’m not scared of the procedure. It’s just uncomfortable and the likelihood of them finding anything wrong is low. We’re just doing it to make sure. My Dad had cancerous polyps removed from his colon and it’s hereditary, so we’re just making sure. My step mom will take me and then come and get me when it’s over, since I can’t drive myself. But all day tomorrow and for the procedure itself, I’ll be alone. And there’s that word again. Alone. I don’t know what to do anymore. David — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Now David, who would you want to be with while having a garden hose shoved up your bucket? There is this difference between being alone and being lonely. The curse and bane of being socially phobic is that one isolates from others-wouldn’t it be a hoot if you met someone in recovery who was real interesting. I have found people meet other people when least expecting it and not looking for it. If you see any social situation, even one at the house of rectal probing as a possible social opportunity rather then a morbid place of solitude, you may surprise yourself. There is nothing to do anymore? Then do nothing, but do it without condition best luck with the procedure LM David

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| is crushing me. I feel like I’m under a million tons of rock. | | Wednesday I go to the hospital for a colonoscopy. It’s a simple, yet | uncomfortable procedure. Tomorrow I go through the "clean out" | procedure, which consists not eating anything and taking enough | laxative to put me in the bathroom all day. (I know, too much | information) | | I’m not scared of the procedure. It’s just uncomfortable and the | likelihood of them finding anything wrong is low. We’re just doing it | to make sure. My Dad had cancerous polyps removed from his colon and | it’s hereditary, so we’re just making sure. | | My step mom will take me and then come and get me when it’s over, | since I can’t drive myself. But all day tomorrow and for the | procedure itself, I’ll be alone. | | And there’s that word again. Alone. I don’t know what to do anymore. | | David I cant say that I honestly "Feel your pain" but (no pun intended) my bro, sis and dad have all had pre cancerous polyps removed. My doc tells me I have to start having the procedure at 50. I am 40 now and with the family history I dont think I should wait 10 years. As it is I have surgery scheduled in november for a complete hysterectomy due to LOTS of bleeding …. bad enough to need 2 units of blood a few weeks ago. Dr suspects a polyp in my uterus. As for the depression, I can feel ya there.. I get depressed all the time. Up and down .. viscious cycle…Merry go round… Im never "alone" as I live with my husband and kids…dogs and cats..but I can get loney too…thats something we all go though at times. Feeling alone when you dont want to be alone can be scary….along with a litney of other descriptions of how it can feel. I suppose some like it.. I dont personally. Before I found others like me, I felt like I was the only person with problems in existance. Then I found all of you guys and some of my family members as well.. My mother for example.. kept it hidden for years. When I was diagnosed she opened up to me. My son was diagnosed a couple of weeks ago. He is 15 and on Prozac. I hope by treating him so young he will be "ok" as an adult. As for your test.. they do give you something to put you "Semi" out. Once you get back home you will want to do nothing but sleep anyway… so as for being alone after the procedure, I just dont think you will mind much Take care Stacy — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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[gentle snip] And there’s that word again. Alone. I don’t know what to do anymore. David

"I don’t know what to do anymore." Ahhhhhhhhhhh I see ! "Do" is the word that isn’t in place dear David. Sometimes we find ourselves on a spot where there is nothing more to "Do" for a while. Try settling with the idea of being alone. I can promiss you it won’t be forever ! Pick up the things you enjoy doing and do them alone. First we have to be our own best friend. Come to this group and share if you want. We are most definitly your friends,tho I see we are not *there* in person,we are there in spirit. In time when you settle with yourself things will change step by step. You can take me on my word dear friend Much strength in the hospital and much love and a kiss on ya nose from Anna — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I went though many of these procedure myself, and they are uncomfortable. colon cancer run in my family also, my dad was treated for it last year. we share many of the same thing and I praying things goes well for you the feeling of being alone orginates within you, somehow you need to accept that it’s ok to be alone, even in my marriage I had to do this or I find myself unhealthly attached to my wife. at the same time you realize you need someone in your life to share it with and as you live your life you will fullfill this need also jim

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Hey David, I have colonoscopies every 3 years because of genetics. I was very apprehensive the first time but all was fine. I was unaware of the procedure. I made it clear that I wanted heavy sedation. You may be alone physically but you know that you have many friends here. I don’t care what some may say, I believe these online friendships are as true as RL. Keep posting and communicating David. My depression has resurfaced. I know it is important that I resist the temptation to withdraw. love Meryl — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | is crushing me. I feel like I’m under a million tons of rock. | | Wednesday I go to the hospital for a colonoscopy. It’s a simple, yet | uncomfortable procedure. Tomorrow I go through the "clean out" | procedure, which consists not eating anything and taking enough | laxative to put me in the bathroom all day. (I know, too much | information) | | I’m not scared of the procedure. It’s just uncomfortable and the | likelihood of them finding anything wrong is low. We’re just doing it | to make sure. My Dad had cancerous polyps removed from his colon and | it’s hereditary, so we’re just making sure. | | My step mom will take me and then come and get me when it’s over, | since I can’t drive myself. But all day tomorrow and for the | procedure itself, I’ll be alone. | | And there’s that word again. Alone. I don’t know what to do anymore. | | David I cant say that I honestly "Feel your pain" but (no pun intended) my bro, sis and dad have all had pre cancerous polyps removed. My doc tells me I have to start having the procedure at 50.

Hi Stacy, Here we are told to start screening immediate family at 30 years. I thank my brother every 3 years love Meryl — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I don’t exactly know what is going on in my life. A lot of the depression revolves around work rehabilitation, but not all of it. The problem with work is that I probably won’t be eligible for the free schooling. Then again, I know going to school full time is way more than I can’t handle anyway. They don’t seem to send people to a more "simple" Technical school, they either go for a degree or help find you a minimum wage job. Nothing in between. Some of the people I work with/for are trying to help in different ways. My Mom is visiting and I just had an appointment with my counselor. I took a depression test and scored a 28 out of 30. It’s strange but sometimes I feel great, then the depression hits again. I’ve been feeling the need to go to a hospital and I think my counselor would love to see me go for better help. My Mom happened to be with me to do some shopping and my counselor asked if we should have my Mom come in. At first I said no. I ended up having my mom go talk to her while I waited out in the car. So this is the most info. my mom has received from anyone besides me. So now Mom is also saying it would be a good time to go get better help, at least she can take care of the dog. Oops I forgot to feed the fish. I have no idea what the near future holds for me. For now I’m here at home. I was so far behind in the posts that I had to delete them all. Hope everyone is doing well. Tony — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I don’t exactly know what is going on in my life. A lot of the depression revolves around work rehabilitation, but not all of it. The problem with work is that I probably won’t be eligible for the free schooling. Then again, I know going to school full time is way more than I can’t handle anyway. They don’t seem to send people to a more "simple" Technical school, they either go for a degree or help find you a minimum wage job. Nothing in between. Some of the people I work with/for are trying to help in different ways. My Mom is visiting and I just had an appointment with my counselor. I took a depression test and scored a 28 out of 30. It’s strange but sometimes I feel great, then the depression hits again. I’ve been feeling the need to go to a hospital and I think my counselor would love to see me go for better help. My Mom happened to be with me to do some shopping and my counselor asked if we should have my Mom come in. At first I said no. I ended up having my mom go talk to her while I waited out in the car. So this is the most info. my mom has received from anyone besides me. So now Mom is also saying it would be a good time to go get better help, at least she can take care of the dog. Oops I forgot to feed the fish. I have no idea what the near future holds for me. For now I’m here at home. I was so far behind in the posts that I had to delete them all. Hope everyone is doing well. Tony

I don’t know what you have in the U.S.A. but up here our colleges are trades oriented and they issue certificates, and universities are geared to the professions, arts and sciences and they issue degrees. Both of these types of institutions offer online courses. Do you have the equivalent available to you. Perhaps taking a course or two online might be suitable for you if they are available and affordable. — Ron P Member of the invisible generation — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Tono, Wishing you brighter days ahead. Vent all you need to. We are here for you. smiles, Elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Tono, "I have no idea what the near future holds for me" – Who does. We have good days, bad days and so-so days. Part of the reason for one day at a time. I’m glad your mother is with you right now. I hope you are comfortable with her having talked with your counselor. Yes… sort of. The bad part is that she will worry too much. I think it was a wise decision. She’s been informed of how you are feeling and can be there for you if you need help. Could you possibly be more concerned about what your mother would think if you needed to go to the hospital? No, she knows I went before, and I know she has also gone for similar reasons. Some times it’s the right thing to do but only you can make that decision. I know you are disappointed about the work situation and not getting the other job. Something else will come along. We have to be patient. It’s difficult a lot of the time but we can get through the wait. I’ve noticed that when you return from your trips you seem to get down, fatigued. Do you think between the driving and visiting that when you come back you are more exhausted and worn out than you may realize? I don’t know, but my last trip was almost 2 months ago when Simone was born. Do you see your counselor soon? I did today. This opened up a whole new can of worms letting the counselor talk to my Mother. Sounds like you need to see her a little more often right now to get through this rough patch. Once a week. I can’t ask for more because she doesn’t even make me pay my $20 co pay. Unfortunately that will change soon when she quits her job at the hospital and depends full time on what was her side job. I think an emergency call to my Dr is in line, but he quits at noon on Fridays. Maybe he can call in a different anti depressant? Thanks, Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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{{{{{{{Tony}}}}}}} It was nice that she talked with your Mom. Do whatever you need to do for yourself, Tony. We’re right behind you. I hope this depression passes quickly for you. Let us know what you’re gonna do. Di

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Yes… sort of. The bad part is that she will worry too much. I think it was a wise decision. She’s been informed of how you are feeling and can be there for you if you need help. Could you possibly be more concerned about what your mother would think if you needed to go to the hospital?

No, she knows I went before, and I know she has also gone for similar reasons. Some times it’s the right thing to do but only you can make that decision. I know you are disappointed about the work situation and not getting the other job. Something else will come along. We have to be patient. It’s difficult a lot of the time but we can get through the wait. I’ve noticed that when you return from your trips you seem to get down, fatigued. Do you think between the driving and visiting that when you come back you are more exhausted and worn out than you may realize?

I don’t know, but my last trip was almost 2 months ago when Simone was born. Do you see your counselor soon?

I did today. This opened up a whole new can of worms letting the counselor talk to my Mother. Sounds like you need to see her a little more often right now to get through this rough patch.

Once a week. I can’t ask for more because she doesn’t even make me pay my $20 co pay. Unfortunately that will change soon when she quits her job at the hospital and depends full time on what was her side job. I think an emergency call to my Dr is in line, but he quits at noon on Fridays. Maybe he can call in a different anti depressant? Thanks, Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Tono, "I have no idea what the near future holds for me" – Who does. We have good days, bad days and so-so days. Part of the reason for one day at a time. I’m glad your mother is with you right now. I hope you are comfortable with her having talked with your counselor. I think it was a wise decision. She’s been informed of how you are feeling and can be there for you if you need help. Could you possibly be more concerned about what your mother would think if you needed to go to the hospital? Some times it’s the right thing to do but only you can make that decision. I know you are disappointed about the work situation and not getting the other job. Something else will come along. We have to be patient. It’s difficult a lot of the time but we can get through the wait. I’ve noticed that when you return from your trips you seem to get down, fatigued. Do you think between the driving and visiting that when you come back you are more exhausted and worn out than you may realize? Do you see your counselor soon? Sounds like you need to see her a little more often right now to get through this rough patch. ((((((Tono)))))) smiles, Elise

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CT and bone scans neg

admin — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:00:00 +0000

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My CT and bone scans came back negative. I was happy to hear this.

Ecstatic, you mean. What fabulous news. Thursday 3/9 the whole prostate, nerves and all come out. Plus the colon cancer. It is malignant and not related to the PC. My uro said

Ah well.

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Yes, I guess ecstatice would be more appropriate. be praying for you guys this week-end:) Best of luck. David

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My CT and bone scans came back negative.

Man, you don’t know how encouraging that is to those of us who were pussyfooting around what we were thinking (because mentioning it served no purpose) … that your skeleton was toast and had just landed jelly side down. Congrats! I.P.

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My CT and bone scans came back negative. I was happy to hear this. Thursday 3/9 the whole prostate, nerves and all come out. Plus the colon cancer. It is malignant and not related to the PC. My uro said he had only seen 3 other biops with a Gleason of 10. I had 2-10’s, so will have to be vigilant. God Bless Dave

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Awful :(

admin — Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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I had a long talk with my abro last night. As some of you may recall, my adad passed away this past December after a long illness. My amom has recently "spilled the beans" as it were and it turns out that he wasn’t the best guy on the planet and TOTALLY unfaithful to my mom. As if this wasn’t bad enough, my abro told me last night that when he was about six, he was driving in the car with my adad, who turned to him and told him that he wasn’t a "real Pratt" (my maiden name) because he was "someone else’s kid". Can you fucking believe that?!? What an asshole. Sorry, just felt like venting — Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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Robyn: I’m sorry to hear this news….yes, it is awful to tell a child of six something like that. Take care of yourself and talk to your abro; let him know you are there for him. Keep venting and expressing yourself; it’s good for the soul. One Adoptee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had a long talk with my abro last night. As some of you may recall, my adad passed away this past December after a long illness. My amom has recently "spilled the beans" as it were and it turns out that he wasn’t the best guy on the planet and TOTALLY unfaithful to my mom. As if this wasn’t bad enough, my abro told me last night that when he was about six, he was driving in the car with my adad, who turned to him and told him that he wasn’t a "real Pratt" (my maiden name) because he was "someone else’s kid". Can you fucking believe that?!? What an asshole. Sorry, just felt like venting — Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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So sorry to hear that Robyn. There are some lines adoptive parents can never cross, and IMO that is one of them. My kids might tell me (though none yet has) that I’m not their real mum but I would never tell them they weren’t, in every sense, my real son or daughter. My 14 year old son is going through an unbelievably tough period right now and in his pain and fury he is trying to hurt those who love him, so I am very familiar with those uncrossable lines Thinking of you, Julia

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Robyn: I’m sorry to hear this news….yes, it is awful to tell a child of six something like that. Take care of yourself and talk to your abro; let him know you are there for him. Keep venting and expressing yourself; it’s good for the soul. One Adoptee I had a long talk with my abro last night. As some of you may recall, my adad passed away this past December after a long illness. My amom has recently "spilled the beans" as it were and it turns out that he wasn’t the best guy on the planet and TOTALLY unfaithful to my mom. As if this wasn’t bad enough, my abro told me last night that when he was about six, he was driving in the car with my adad, who turned to him and told him that he wasn’t a "real Pratt" (my maiden name) because he was "someone else’s kid". Can you fucking believe that?!? What an asshole. Sorry, just felt like venting

I’m sorry too, Robyn. Ditto to what One Adoptee said. You and your abro take take care of each other. Rh. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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Please add my "ditto" to the list. Raymond

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Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557 (((((((((((Robyn))))))))))) Hold your brother close to your heart, Robyn. Remember, please, that lots of people are just plain obnoxious, ignorant, and nasty. I doubt that anything about adoption need enter the picture for that to be true

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had a long talk with my abro last night. As some of you may recall, my adad passed away this past December after a long illness. My amom has recently "spilled the beans" as it were and it turns out that he wasn’t the best guy on the planet and TOTALLY unfaithful to my mom. As if this wasn’t bad enough, my abro told me last night that when he was about six, he was driving in the car with my adad, who turned to him and told him that he wasn’t a "real Pratt" (my maiden name) because he was "someone else’s kid". Can you fucking believe that?!? What an asshole. Sorry, just felt like venting Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557 (((((((((((Robyn))))))))))) Hold your brother close to your heart, Robyn. Remember, please, that lots of people are just plain obnoxious, ignorant, and nasty. I doubt that anything about adoption need enter the picture for that to be true

Indeed. It’s just kind of awful to find out that my dad, who while wasn’t the best father in the world, I still thought he was a pretty cool guy (as did most people). Now it turns out that he was a complete asshole and, frankly, I hate him. We’re going to have this ceremony next month where we’re going to dispose of his ashes in the pond in my parents backyard. I told my abro that I feel like drop-kicking them in — Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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Not that I believe in a soul, but okey dokey. — Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Robyn: I’m sorry to hear this news….yes, it is awful to tell a child of six something like that. Take care of yourself and talk to your abro; let him know you are there for him. Keep venting and expressing yourself; it’s good for the soul. One Adoptee I had a long talk with my abro last night. As some of you may recall, my adad passed away this past December after a long illness. My amom has recently "spilled the beans" as it were and it turns out that he wasn’t the best guy on the planet and TOTALLY unfaithful to my mom. As if this wasn’t bad enough, my abro told me last night that when he was about six, he was driving in the car with my adad, who turned to him and told him that he wasn’t a "real Pratt" (my maiden name) because he was "someone else’s kid". Can you fucking believe that?!? What an asshole. Sorry, just felt like venting I’m sorry too, Robyn. Ditto to what One Adoptee said. You and your abro take take care of each other.

Thanks, I only see him once in a blue moon and only talk on the phone a couple of times of year, but he does know that I’m here for him. — Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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Thanks, we’re okay. At least I found out the man was an asshole after he died, so I don’t have to see him and pretend to be nice. — Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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Tough times, Robyn. Our relationships with a parent are often cloudy enough in life, without having to incorporate disturbing information after their deaths. Perhaps some day you’ll be in a position to see him in a more balanced light, as both the man you knew and the man others knew. Don’t throw away your own memories on the basis of others’. My best, J.

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I’ll be honest, I always thought he wasn’t the world’s greatest dad. Fun guy, but not someone you could get close to – Unless you were the next-door neighbor’s wife, apparently

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Robyn, your a-dad was a monster. Who could do such a thing to a little kid? You and your brother must stay strong for each other. Hugs Linda

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Robyn, your a-dad was a monster. Who could do such a thing to a little kid?

I guess I’m damn lucky that he never said anything like that to me. You and your brother must stay strong for each other.

Yeah, we’re cool. I mean, the old man’s dead, so what are you going to do about it? — —— Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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Robyn, your a-dad was a monster. Who could do such a thing to a little kid? I guess I’m damn lucky that he never said anything like that to me. You and your brother must stay strong for each other. Yeah, we’re cool. I mean, the old man’s dead, so what are you going to do about it? —

It’s crummy to find this out after he’s dead–but your poor brother. He’s been sitting on that for a long time. If he was a good father to you, then maybe you can try to remember that. If not, well, then don’t feel guilty, you can hate him in peace. (so, does this mean it was considerate of my a-dad to be a bad father? I don’t feel too bad–he’s a rotten father to his bio-kids too.) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – —— Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Robyn, your a-dad was a monster. Who could do such a thing to a little kid? I guess I’m damn lucky that he never said anything like that to me. You and your brother must stay strong for each other. Yeah, we’re cool. I mean, the old man’s dead, so what are you going to do about it? — It’s crummy to find this out after he’s dead–but your poor brother.

I know! The poor guy. He never really fit in with the rest of the family. Part of it was that we were all light-haired and blue-eyed while he was dark-skinned with black, curly hair. He was quite distant emotionally as well. Gee, I think I’ve figured out why. The poor guy. And to think he’s been carrying this around for 40(!!!) years He’s been sitting on that for a long time. If he was a good father to you, then maybe you can try to remember that. If not, well, then don’t feel guilty, you can hate him in peace.

I have been, thank you (so, does this mean it was considerate of my a-dad to be a bad father? I don’t feel too bad–he’s a rotten father to his bio-kids too.)

Oh well. As long as he was an equal-opportunity bad dad — —— Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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Robyn, FWIW, the last thing my father, striken with colon cancer, did before I helped him die was look me in the eye and say: "you know something, you really could have been someone if you’d tried". This after spending two years of my life being his caregiver, cleaning his stoma, wiping shit off bathroom walls and chasing him down the lane naked in nothing but his bag and socks before his got out onto the highway and got hisself run over. s’pose that a father by any name can be an asshole. ((((((((hugs)))))))) ducks

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Ouch This after spending two years of my life being his caregiver, cleaning his stoma, wiping shit off bathroom walls and chasing him down the lane naked in nothing but his bag and socks before his got out onto the highway and got hisself run over. s’pose that a father by any name can be an asshole.

Indeed. I was hoping no one would pop in with the old "evil adoptive parent" bullshit. I know people whose biofathers were major jerks – My husband is a case in point. I guess the worst thing my adad ever did to me was just be kinda distant. That and absolutely refusing to say that he loved me, even when prompted. Oh well, there are much worse things in life :/ ((((((((hugs))))))))

Right back at you — —— Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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He wasn’t an old rummy boxer, was he? Old people and dying people can say really mean things, but boy….that must have hurt. Marley – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ouch This after spending two years of my life being his caregiver, cleaning his stoma, wiping shit off bathroom walls and chasing him down the lane naked in nothing but his bag and socks before his got out onto the highway and got hisself run over. s’pose that a father by any name can be an asshole. Indeed. I was hoping no one would pop in with the old "evil adoptive parent" bullshit. I know people whose biofathers were major jerks – My husband is a case in point. I guess the worst thing my adad ever did to me was just be kinda distant. That and absolutely refusing to say that he loved me, even when prompted. Oh well, there are much worse things in life :/ ((((((((hugs)))))))) Right back at you — —— Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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Did she stick with him? He must have had *some* redeeming features. As if this wasn’t bad enough, my abro told me last night that when he was about six, he was driving in the car with my adad, who turned to him and told him that he wasn’t a "real Pratt" (my maiden name) because he was "someone else’s kid".

How absolutely, unbelievably crass…the poor little boy’s self-esteem must have been knocked sideways. Can you fucking believe that?!? What an asshole. Sorry, just felt like venting

Damn right you did. It’s such a let-down to discover after they die that someone we loved had feet of clay. If the two adults in the marriage were able to handle his unfaithfulness without your knowledge while you were growing up, then your mother must have been a very patient and forgiving person. What he said to your brother was horrible, but 35 years ago your dad was possibly less aware of the sheer tactlessness and potential damage in what he was telling his small son. It *may* simply have been his crude attempt to tell your brother about his adoptive status. (((hugs))) Helen

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Would he not have been trying to *compliment* you? That’s the way it looks to me, an outsider, that he was actually paying you a back-handed compliment. If he was normally articulate, his illness, pain and medication may simply have dulled his ability to use the words properly to convey what he was trying to tell you: that you were so remarkable a person (in all that you did for him, that nobody else would have been able to do) that there was nothing in the whole wide world that you couldn’t have achieved if you had wanted to. This after spending two years of my life being his caregiver, cleaning his stoma, wiping shit off bathroom walls and chasing him down the lane naked in nothing but his bag and socks before his got out onto the highway and got hisself run over. s’pose that a father by any name can be an asshole.

He can, but I still reckon he loved you – as you loved him – and he tried to (clumsily) express his admiration of you, but you were (naturally) too sensitive at the time to hear it like that. ((((((((hugs))))))))

((((millions of hugs))) Helen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ducks

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Robyn, FWIW, the last thing my father, striken with colon cancer, did before I helped him die was look me in the eye and say: "you know something, you really could have been someone if you’d tried". Ouch This after spending two years of my life being his caregiver, cleaning his stoma, wiping shit off bathroom walls and chasing him down the lane naked in nothing but his bag and socks before his got out onto the highway and got hisself run over. s’pose that a father by any name can be an asshole. Indeed. I was hoping no one would pop in with the old "evil adoptive parent" bullshit. I know people whose biofathers were major jerks – My husband is a case in point. I guess the worst thing my adad ever did to me was just be kinda distant. That and absolutely refusing to say that he loved me, even when prompted. Oh well, there are much worse things in life :/

My mother is 85 and has never once (to my certain knowledge) told me that she loved me. I don’t remember prompting her to say the L word either, but I doubt she would have understood what I was getting at.

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I had a long talk with my abro last night. As some of you may recall, my adad passed away this past December after a long illness. My amom has recently "spilled the beans" as it were and it turns out that he wasn’t the best guy on the planet and TOTALLY unfaithful to my mom. Did she stick with him?

Sure did. I didn’t think much of her either after that, but it was a different time and women didn’t leave their husbands so easily, especially with two kids. He must have had *some* redeeming features.

Oh, he wasn’t a monster, just a very bad boy :/ As if this wasn’t bad enough, my abro told me last night that when he was about six, he was driving in the car with my adad, who turned to him and told him that he wasn’t a "real Pratt" (my maiden name) because he was "someone else’s kid". How absolutely, unbelievably crass…the poor little boy’s self-esteem must have been knocked sideways.

Believe me, it explains a LOT of his behavior while we were growing up. Shoot, we didn’t even get along until we were both in our 20s. I always wondered why he was so withdrawn from the rest of the family. Now, I know why Can you fucking believe that?!? What an asshole. Sorry, just felt like venting Damn right you did. It’s such a let-down to discover after they die that someone we loved had feet of clay.

I knew he wasn’t perfect – in fact he’d confided two affairs to me. However, I wasn’t aware that he was screwing, or at least trying to, every woman in town! If the two adults in the marriage were able to handle his unfaithfulness without your knowledge while you were growing up, then your mother must have been a very patient and forgiving person.

LOL, not with us kids, that’s for sure. I understand a bit more about that now as well. What he said to your brother was horrible, but 35 years ago your dad was possibly less aware of the sheer tactlessness and potential damage in what he was telling his small son.

No, he was just a selfish prick. It *may* simply have been his crude attempt to tell your brother about his adoptive status.

My brother already knew by that age as did I. No, my dad was just an asshole. Oh well. (((hugs)))

Thanks. Now, if I can just get through this spread-his-ashes ceremony without spitting in them — —— Robyn Resident Witchypoo Bride of Satan #1557

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Robyn, FWIW, the last thing my father, striken with colon cancer, did before I helped him die was look me in the eye and say: "you know something, you really could have been someone if you’d tried". Would he not have been trying to *compliment* you? That’s the way it looks to me, an outsider, that he was actually paying you a back-handed compliment.

Would that have been the case….Unfortunately it was not. He wanted me to be a lawyer, or in finance like he was. When I open my ad agency and spent my free time writing/recording music he thought I was a bum. ducks

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Two post-op PSA Questions

admin — Thu, 21 Apr 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Ron B, The uros at my group do the first PSA at 6 weeks. Theyecpect it to be <0.1 unless it started very high. My own uro say many docs have gotten away from DRE post op, because psa is more sensitive. But he still does them because he wants to know if there is anything there like scar tissue that could be interpreted or misinterpreted as a recurrence later. So the DRE is there in the record as a baseline if the psa rises later. Steve U

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Walsh ALSO mentions a post-op DRE. (digital rectal exam). What do they feel for after the prostate is gone? Thanks again, Ron B. Chicago

My doc has this on his list of to do’s also Ron. Once a year. Dale j. —

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What do they feel for after the prostate is gone? I’ve always wondered about this also. It may be to check that there is no swelling or other unexpected consequence of the surgery. My urologist was still doing the DRE at 4 years from surgery. Recently, he has usually had a medical student with him, so I guess the student gets a chance to see what it feels like if no prostate is present. While he is doing the DRE, he is also checking for abnormalities in the rectal wall, which is one other purpose of the exam.

My surgeon does this also. Next one will be in Dec 05 along with the usual PSA, which will be 3 years post, with fingers crossed. Dale j. —

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I wonder about that everytime I’m bent over in the doctor’s office. My doc only says, "something that aint right". —

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Mine reduced it from every visit to every other visit. That was at about 3 years out. — Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 non Illegitimi carborundum – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My GP (at Johns Hopkins) does not do DRE after RRP. jimhoney Thanks for the advice on my earlier post. As I was studying for tomorrow’s PSA test as Alan suggested , I thought of these 2 questions: From Walsh’s book…the PSA half life is about 2-3 days…so wouldn’t the first post-op PSA test be OK at almost 5 weeks? (33 days) My doc usually does them at 4 weeks…I don’t know why, I’ll ask him in 2 weeks when I see him. (A nurse does the blood draw early tomorrow and I see him 2 weeks later…where they can draw it again if needed.) And two: Walsh ALSO mentions a post-op DRE. (digital rectal exam). What do they feel for after the prostate is gone? I’ve always wondered about this also. It may be to check that there is no swelling or other unexpected consequence of the surgery. My urologist was still doing the DRE at 4 years from surgery. Recently, he has usually had a medical student with him, so I guess the student gets a chance to see what it feels like if no prostate is present. While he is doing the DRE, he is also checking for abnormalities in the rectal wall, which is one other purpose of the exam. Thanks again, Ron B. Chicago

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While he is doing the DRE, he is also checking for abnormalities in the rectal wall, which is one other purpose of the exam. My surgeon does this also. Next one will be in Dec 05 along with the usual PSA, which will be 3 years post, with fingers crossed.

That’s gotta hurt!

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Thanks guys for the great answers. They made a lot of sense. And as I.P. said (and I agree)…the prep for ANY test is not a problem (no matter HOW bad it might taste)…it’s the results that "I" am concerned about. Good health to everyone and thanks again, Ron B. Chicago

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – While he is doing the DRE, he is also checking for abnormalities in the rectal wall, which is one other purpose of the exam. My surgeon does this also. Next one will be in Dec 05 along with the usual PSA, which will be 3 years post, with fingers crossed. That’s gotta hurt!

My fingers crossed, not his, LOL Got a chuckle on that one Steve. Dale j —

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Thanks for the advice on my earlier post. As I was studying for tomorrow’s PSA test as Alan suggested , I thought of these 2 questions: From Walsh’s book…the PSA half life is about 2-3 days…so wouldn’t the first post-op PSA test be OK at almost 5 weeks? (33 days) My doc usually does them at 4 weeks…I don’t know why, I’ll ask him in 2 weeks when I see him. (A nurse does the blood draw early tomorrow and I see him 2 weeks later…where they can draw it again if needed.) And two: Walsh ALSO mentions a post-op DRE. (digital rectal exam). What do they feel for after the prostate is gone? Thanks again, Ron B. Chicago

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for the advice on my earlier post. As I was studying for tomorrow’s PSA test as Alan suggested , I thought of these 2 questions: From Walsh’s book…the PSA half life is about 2-3 days…so wouldn’t the first post-op PSA test be OK at almost 5 weeks? (33 days) My doc usually does them at 4 weeks…I don’t know why, I’ll ask him in 2 weeks when I see him. (A nurse does the blood draw early tomorrow and I see him 2 weeks later…where they can draw it again if needed.) And two: Walsh ALSO mentions a post-op DRE. (digital rectal exam). What do they feel for after the prostate is gone?

I’ve always wondered about this also. It may be to check that there is no swelling or other unexpected consequence of the surgery. My urologist was still doing the DRE at 4 years from surgery. Recently, he has usually had a medical student with him, so I guess the student gets a chance to see what it feels like if no prostate is present. While he is doing the DRE, he is also checking for abnormalities in the rectal wall, which is one other purpose of the exam. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks again, Ron B. Chicago

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I recently went for a follow-up visit to my Urologist following a seed implant in June 04, he also performed a DRE and reported that he felt no tissue. I failed to ask for an explanation, but assumed that he meant "no abnormal prostate tissue." Tom

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for the advice on my earlier post. As I was studying for tomorrow’s PSA test as Alan suggested , I thought of these 2 questions: From Walsh’s book…the PSA half life is about 2-3 days…so wouldn’t the first post-op PSA test be OK at almost 5 weeks? (33 days) My doc usually does them at 4 weeks…I don’t know why, I’ll ask him in 2 weeks when I see him. (A nurse does the blood draw early tomorrow and I see him 2 weeks later…where they can draw it again if needed.) And two: Walsh ALSO mentions a post-op DRE. (digital rectal exam). What do they feel for after the prostate is gone? I’ve always wondered about this also. It may be to check that there is no swelling or other unexpected consequence of the surgery. My urologist was still doing the DRE at 4 years from surgery. Recently, he has usually had a medical student with him, so I guess the student gets a chance to see what it feels like if no prostate is present. While he is doing the DRE, he is also checking for abnormalities in the rectal wall, which is one other purpose of the exam. Thanks again, Ron B. Chicago

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My GP (at Johns Hopkins) does not do DRE after RRP. jimhoney – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for the advice on my earlier post. As I was studying for tomorrow’s PSA test as Alan suggested , I thought of these 2 questions: From Walsh’s book…the PSA half life is about 2-3 days…so wouldn’t the first post-op PSA test be OK at almost 5 weeks? (33 days) My doc usually does them at 4 weeks…I don’t know why, I’ll ask him in 2 weeks when I see him. (A nurse does the blood draw early tomorrow and I see him 2 weeks later…where they can draw it again if needed.) And two: Walsh ALSO mentions a post-op DRE. (digital rectal exam). What do they feel for after the prostate is gone? I’ve always wondered about this also. It may be to check that there is no swelling or other unexpected consequence of the surgery. My urologist was still doing the DRE at 4 years from surgery. Recently, he has usually had a medical student with him, so I guess the student gets a chance to see what it feels like if no prostate is present. While he is doing the DRE, he is also checking for abnormalities in the rectal wall, which is one other purpose of the exam. Thanks again, Ron B. Chicago

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Hi Ron: As you can see, the ng is working today. Tomorrow, who knows? Not sure about the half life. You make a good point. I have always been told that it takes a long time for the PSA to go down, so that is why most doc’s wait a few months to do the first post op PSA. The DRE is in the category of ask five and get four different answers. Some do. Some do not. The uro hasn’t asked me to drop my pants since the staples came out. My primary care says it is not necessary. In one of the many books I read while preparing for the surgery one author said that it is done to make sure there is nothing showing up in there that shouldn’t. If the prostate is gone, organ contained disease, clear margins, etc., what would be there to feel? For that matter, if the margins were not clear that does not mean that there would be something that could be felt with a DRE, right? Not sure what the point is after the surgery except maybe for an initial follow up. I am just glad that I walked away from this experience with one thing that I can gladly forget about. No more DRE’s for me. And, no more colonoscopies for another decade. I swear the prep for that damn exam was worse than the RRP. I still can taste that stuff. Have a good weekend group. Hope you are getting dryer by the day Ron. Thank you. David S.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for the advice on my earlier post. As I was studying for tomorrow’s PSA test as Alan suggested , I thought of these 2 questions: From Walsh’s book…the PSA half life is about 2-3 days…so wouldn’t the first post-op PSA test be OK at almost 5 weeks? (33 days) My doc usually does them at 4 weeks…I don’t know why, I’ll ask him in 2 weeks when I see him. (A nurse does the blood draw early tomorrow and I see him 2 weeks later…where they can draw it again if needed.) And two: Walsh ALSO mentions a post-op DRE. (digital rectal exam). What do they feel for after the prostate is gone? Thanks again, Ron B. Chicago

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no more colonoscopies for another decade.

I’d never wait that long. The recommendation is every five years past the age of 50, and — anecdote alert — I went from clean coloscopy to metastasized (lymph nodes) colon cancer in three years. I swear the prep for that damn [coloscopy] exam was worse than the RRP. I still can taste that stuff.

Chill it, hold your nose, and gulp it down. I.P.

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OT: Schiavo

admin — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Think I’ll revisit our wills. We might have power of attorney, but then maybe not. Thanks for the heads up. (the)duckster

Your welcome While I agree in principle with what a living will stands for, the *reality* of a living will and how it *can* play out can be horrific. I never would have imagined it if I hadn’t experienced it myself. Unfortunately, my experience is not unique. Every survivor of ARDS (Adult Respiratory Distress Syndrome) that I have encountered has a horror story to tell of how their loved ones were given the ‘talk’ and were pressured (in varying degrees) to pull the plug. Often times these talks were accompanied with dire predictions of ‘being a vegetable’ even if they did survive the ARDS crisis. I’ve also encountered colon cancer patients who’s doctors were a litttle too eager to ‘pull the plug’ when they ran into trouble because, afterall, they were terminal, it was only a matter of time. I guess that additional 6 months, year, whatever doesn’t mean much to *them* One family member even discovered by accident that the attending doc had written DNR on her mother’s chart even though *nobody* (her mother included) had *ever* indicated that this was a consideration. Of course she promptly had that doctor removed from her mother’s case. Unfortunately, sometimes doctors let their own personal feelings on the subject color their behavior. Ok, I’ve rambled enough on the subject It’s one of my hot button issues I know you understand though. You were one of the first to reach out to me when my Dad was diagnosed and I really appeciated it. ((Hugs)) Kathy 1

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is not at all adoption related, but I have to believe that most of the U.S. posters to alt.a. have some feelings about the ongoing battle over the Florida woman whose feeding tube was recently removed after the end of an extremely long legal battle between her husband and her parents. I’m appalled by the extent to which her life has become a political issue in first the Florida legislature and now in Congress. As I write, Congress may already have sent special legislation to the President, creating jurisdiction in a federal court for the review of the Florida state court’s actions. As I understand it, the bill would apply only to the Schiavo case. Aside from the many legal issues this raises, constitutional or otherwise, this strikes me as far beyond the pale. How either party (or both) could play political football with this family’s situation is, sadly, not beyond me. It’s no worse than I’ve come to expect from any elected official when there are points to be scored. Every single one of them should be deeply ashamed. I am, just sitting on the sidelines. J.

If after reading the history of this matter, you do not at least think of obtaining a power of attorney for health care matters …. Doug Thomas

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is not at all adoption related, but I have to believe that most of the U.S. posters to alt.a. have some feelings about the ongoing battle over the Florida woman whose feeding tube was recently removed after the end of an extremely long legal battle between her husband and her parents. I’m appalled by the extent to which her life has become a political issue in first the Florida legislature and now in Congress. As I write, Congress may already have sent special legislation to the President, creating jurisdiction in a federal court for the review of the Florida state court’s actions. As I understand it, the bill would apply only to the Schiavo case. Aside from the many legal issues this raises, constitutional or otherwise, this strikes me as far beyond the pale. How either party (or both) could play political football with this family’s situation is, sadly, not beyond me. It’s no worse than I’ve come to expect from any elected official when there are points to be scored. Every single one of them should be deeply ashamed. I am, just sitting on the sidelines. J.

Me too J. There is just so much wrong with this entire thing that I wouldn’t even begin to know where to start.

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This is not at all adoption related, but I have to believe that most of the U.S. posters to alt.a. have some feelings about the ongoing battle over the Florida woman whose feeding tube was recently removed after the end of an extremely long legal battle between her husband and her parents. I’m appalled by the extent to which her life has become a political issue in first the Florida legislature and now in Congress. As I write, Congress may already have sent special legislation to the President, creating jurisdiction in a federal court for the review of the Florida state court’s actions. As I understand it, the bill would apply only to the Schiavo case.

I admit to very muddled views on this case. I believe in the right to die, and were I in a persistent vegetative state, I’d want someone to pull the plug. So from that standpoint, I favor the efforts of one side to do so. Having said that, I am not sure where I come down on the Schiavo case, for several reasons. 1. From what little I’ve heard, the husband is in a situation where conflict of interest may be presumed. Soon after Terry Schiavo’s coma started, he became involved with someone else. There were some allegations that he would benefit financially from Terry’s death. In this situation, I have qualms about whether he is indeed acting in her best interest. 2. While the parents may be acting more out of love and hope than medical rationality, they have put their money where their mouth is, committing to caring for Terry as long as they/ she lives. I see them as better representing Terry’s best interest than her husband does. 3. While I favor "pulling the plug" in cases of persistent vegetative states, is a feeding tube (through which she also gets water) a plug? I’d have had better vibes if we were discussing a respirator. 4. While many doctors have come to the same conclusion about Terry, misdiagnoses have happened in the past. It’s possible this is another such. From an ethical standpoint, a person’s life has value to that person,

and to others. The value to the person is of course primary; but when there’s no way to ascertain that, then the secondary benefit I think becomes a key issue. In this case, her life clearly has huge value to her parents. Since it’s impossible to determine Terry’s own wishes, her parents’ wishes should be given some weightage. On the whole, I believe that in this situation Terry should continue to live. As for the legal manoeuvres in progress, some of which are approaching legal gymnastics, I have no strong views. I do feel there is an attempt being made to prevent an injustice. However, I believe that the same machinery could as easily be used to subvert justice and interfere with personal rights. Rupa

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No, I’d have expected him to relinquish the role of legal guardianship to her parents. To my mind, once he was involved with someone else, he lost the ethical presumption that he was acting in her best interest. I know he has the legal right to act as her guardian, but I don’t think he has the moral right. You are, as always correct. But by not giving parents guardianship almost says to me he is doing what he says she wanted, getting her off the tubes. There were only two people in that marriage, not her parents, church, congress, RTLfers, See, I guess it says something entirely different to me. It implies at the very least that he has control issues.

Yes it would seem to imply that. Reports are that he turned down a subsantial amount of money to turn over guardianship to her parents. I find it impossible to believe he is doing this for *her* sake.

I find it hard to believe that they discussed this issue in depth as 20 somethings. That this is something she definitively wanted. Most of us don’t seriously consider the issue, imo, until we are a little further along in age. Kathy 1

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If there is one thing this entire matter teaches, is the having of a living will.

You bet. Absolutely right. In the meantime, we are treated to the spectacle of a hysterical mother pleading for the madness to stop, the religious right weighing in, a US Congress who has no business in it and a husband who as her legal guardian has steadfastly held to what he believed his wife wanted. Yes, I know he has a girlfriend and a couple of kids by her, but after ten years what do you expect, a monk? Messy all the way around.

I’ve been doing a lot of thinking and reading on this lately. My thoughts on this situation have evolved from what I thought a few days ago. They might evolve further. I’ve been resisting commenting on this here since J put up the original post, but, well, you know me :-) This is where I

Avoid the Subway Chipotle shit

admin — Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It sounds more to me like whoever made your sub didn’t wash their hands. Did they wear gloves? People often think the food made them sick when they catch a 24 or 48 hour clipper like this. The truth is that they could have picked this bug up just about anywhere, and the food was just coincidental. You rarely get this sick that quickly after eating something. More likely, the guy picked up the bug a day or two earlier, and the bug just hit critical mass and overwhelmed his defenses. This shit is a reddish brown, lighter than my usual dark brown stuff, and sticky as hell. I’m going through two Charmin Ultra double rolls PER DAY just wiping and wiping and wiping. My ass is raw and bleeding. This might be cause for concern. The red might be blood cells. Having blood in your #2 could mean some kind of internal bleeding. That could be an indicator of something like colon cancer or a rupture somewhere. The original poster might want to get this checked out. The Subway again could have been a coincidence, and this problem was brewing for a while. -john-

I agree with the second part of your post, but not the first part. When I got Salmonella from eating a raw, questionable egg, it hit me in less than 8 hours. There was no doubt where I got it. After being deathly ill for 3 days, (unable to keep anything down but water, fever, chills, and squirts with some blood) I went to the ER. They cultured it and it grew up Salmonella so there was no doubt. Gave me antibiotics and some really good drugs to kill the cramp pain and nausea. Gotta love IV Demerol

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says… Generally, a bleed will produce black stool. Indeed. Eat nothing but tomato and carrot foodstuffs for a couple of days and watch the colors go reddish orange.

Depends on just where the bleeding occurs. jim

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I’ve been stuck on the toilet since saturday with no end in sight. Perhaps a small hand held mirror might help.

Or a pry bar. — V.G. "i would blame them it they went on a holy jhiad and killed off all the infidels, would you?" – AssLexa’s "200+" alien-implanted IQ jumps the rails and crashes into a grade school, killing all inside. Change pobox dot alaska to gci. Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.

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If you go to Subway, avoid the Chipotle Southwestern Cheesesteak Sub at all costs! I’ve been stuck on the toilet since saturday with no end in sight.

Keep a laptop in the privy for just such emergencies do ‘ya? Got a webcam?

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I’ve been stuck on the toilet since saturday with no end in sight.

Perhaps a small hand held mirror might help. Cork-O-Mattic The Proper Stopper Exclusive butt plug of the Special Olympics

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Post of the year!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Let that be a lesson to all of you. Never, ever, order what a counter droid recommends. The chances are that the main ingredients are at the ‘Use before’ date and you’ll no doubt end up with a case of the screaming shits like poor Anthony did. Just think, the poor bastard could have purchased his Chipotle Southwestern Cheesesteak Sub while on the way to board an American Airlines flight to Omaha — the same flight that you were waiting to board. Just guess who he’d be seated next to? That’s right, you. He’d have the window seat and you’d be in the middle. Lucky you! By the time Anthony gets to the airport, the sub has already started to work its magic inside of his tummy. By the time the aircraft lifts off the Tarmac, you have that little air valve aimed at your face, turned to full blast and tears will be flowing down your cheeks. It’s a good thing that people can’t smoke on commerical aircraft, because we all know what would happen if someone decides to flick his Bic. About the time you think you’re back in control, the stewardess sevres you one of those oh-so-special airline dinners. Yum-yum! Nothing beats a hearty dinner on an airline, except maybe a Chipotle Southwestern Cheesesteak Sub. As you’re just starting to put a second forkfull of the entree into your mouth, Anthony lets loose with one that even the flow of air coming from that little valve can’t stop and you gag. Poor Anthony jumps up and says, "let me out, I think I’m going to shit my pants!" Needless to say, both you and the other person seated next to you have your seatbelts buckled and your trays lowered. What fun! By time the the two of you are able to unbuckle, do something with your meals and get your trays in the upright position, it’s too late. Halfway to Omaha, and you’re stuck sitting next to someone with a case of the screaming shits who has already shit his pants once. His seat color has changed from a bright blue to a deep brown and has bubbles on its surface. The carpet under your feet looks much the same. What luck! Anyone wonder if any airline has its planes carry enough barf bags to handle an emergency situation like that? Bobbi — Roberta Hatch ‘65 Panhead Dykes on Bikes, San Francisco, CA (This space for rent)

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Are you sure it wasn’t S N L that made you sick?!? That Debbie Downer skit didn’t give me the shits, but it sure made me wanna puke! That character was funny the first time when they couldn’t stop laughing. It’s been awful ever since.

Now I can’t get the image of Debbie Downer telling me that Jared’s sandwich gave her the squirts.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you go to Subway, avoid the Chipotle Southwestern Cheesesteak Sub at all costs! I’ve been stuck on the toilet since saturday with no end in sight. I went to fill up the gas tank saturday night and noticed they got a Subway inside. Since it takes a while to fill up my big honkin Lincoln Navigator, I decide to get me a nice sub to take home and enjoy SNL… … By now it’s Monday and I’m down to bathroom trips every three hours. It’s still taking half a roll of the double Charim rolls per each shit session and I’m having to moisten the toilet paper before I wipe, my raw ass can’t take it dry anymore. And the stuff is still stinking like a weapon of mass destruction. I’ve never had shit stink so bad in my life! What the hell do they put in that chipotle sauce??? I’m thinking of taking some samples down to that Subway place today and asking them what the hell they put in it.

I don’t suppose you considered the possibility that she actually took you seriously when you asked "And could you please blow your nose on the bun?" — Cheers, Bev When cryptography is outlawed, only outlaws will qwertzuio asdfghjk pyxcvbnml – M. O’Dorney

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Generally, a bleed will produce black stool. Gabby Depends on where the "bleed" originates; it can be black or red-colored. At least that is what I was told 15 years ago. Tom

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– x-no-archive: yes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you go to Subway, avoid the Chipotle Southwestern Cheesesteak Sub at all costs! I’ve been stuck on the toilet since saturday with no end in sight. I went to fill up the gas tank saturday night and noticed they got a Subway inside. Since it takes a while to fill up my big honkin Lincoln Navigator, I decide to get me a nice sub to take home and enjoy SNL. So I says to the lady at the counter, yo babe, what’s good? She recommends the Chipotle Southwestern. Okay, I says, sounds good. I get home and I cuddle on the couch with my footlong, chips, and a nice Dr. Pepper. Takes a while to wolf that thing down. Later on that night, the trouble starts. Wake up a 3am with a nasty stomach ache. Go to the bathroom and take a nice dump. Nice, but not memorable. The next day, BOOM! It hits me. I’m making trips to the toilet every two hours. By now, the shit is really starting to stink like something died. I can’t stop shitting and the shit is this sticky, tarry stuff that gets everywhere and you wipe and wipe and wipe and the more you wipe the more of the stuff there is. This shit is a reddish brown, lighter than my usual dark brown stuff, and sticky as hell. I’m going through two Charmin Ultra double rolls PER DAY just wiping and wiping and wiping. My ass is raw and bleeding. By now it’s Monday and I’m down to bathroom trips every three hours. It’s still taking half a roll of the double Charim rolls per each shit session and I’m having to moisten the toilet paper before I wipe, my raw ass can’t take it dry anymore. And the stuff is still stinking like a weapon of mass destruction. I’ve never had shit stink so bad in my life! What the hell do they put in that chipotle sauce??? I’m thinking of taking some samples down to that Subway place today and asking them what the hell they put in it. Man, now I wonder how Jarred did his Subway diet thing for a year. If that story is true, he must have stayed in the bathroom the whole 12 months! As for me, I don’t think I’ll be going back to Subway any time soon. P.S. Are you sure it was S N L that made you sick?!? That Debbie Downer skit didn’t give me the shits, but it sure made me wanna puke!

I think it was saying something like "yo babe, what’s good?" to the counter help that inspired her to put a little something extra in the sauce – if you know what I mean.

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says… This shit is a reddish brown, lighter than my usual dark brown stuff, and sticky as hell. I’m going through two Charmin Ultra double rolls PER DAY just wiping and wiping and wiping. My ass is raw and bleeding. This might be cause for concern. The red might be blood cells. Having blood in your #2 could mean some kind of internal bleeding. Generally, a bleed will produce black stool.

Indeed. Eat nothing but tomato and carrot foodstuffs for a couple of days and watch the colors go reddish orange.

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It sounds more to me like whoever made your sub didn’t wash their hands. Did they wear gloves? People often think the food made them sick when they catch a 24 or 48 hour clipper like this. The truth is that they could have picked this bug up just about anywhere, and the food was just coincidental. You rarely get this sick that quickly after eating something. More likely, the guy picked up the bug a day or two earlier, and the bug just hit critical mass and overwhelmed his defenses.

You’re 100-percent correct. Just because he pruchased a questionable meal at a questionable establishment, doesn’t mean it was the cause of his troubles. My guess is that there’s probably only a likelihood of say, oh about, 99.99999999-percent that the food is the problem. Bobbi — Roberta Hatch ‘65 Panhead Dykes on Bikes, San Francisco, CA (This space for rent)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you go to Subway, avoid the Chipotle Southwestern Cheesesteak Sub at all costs! Actually I prefer to avoid subway period. We have two local mom & pop delis that make much better subs and as a little bonus they are less expensive. May I ask why the fuck your posting this to rec.travel.air? You should have just sent it to alt.tasteless which I presume you are a frequent contributor. and is there a particular reason why YOU posted to 5 newsgroups? we don’t want it either.

Maybe you can tell me how I would know WHICH of the five groups sent the message?

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accordance with The Prophecy scribed: If you go to Subway, avoid the Chipotle Southwestern Cheesesteak Sub at all costs! I’ve been stuck on the toilet since saturday with no end in sight.

Fucking wimp. — DrPostman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed" Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT

Non-food New Years resolution

admin — Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol My resolution will be to send money to Asia. There are people over there suffering because of that damn earthquake and tsunami. People surviving there are without food, water, or shelter. We can help. you’re a very kind-hearted person… I like that Angie

And I want to say, thank you very much, Angie!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… My resolution is to tell the truth to people, with no sugar on top. That’s not a resolution; that’s your motto. No, his resolution is to hurt and anger as many newbies as possible, with extra points to himself for twisting the knife to people with major life crises. For him to say he tells the "truth" to people with no sugar on top is PILING sugar on top of shit. — Saffire 205/145/125 - 5′1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Saffire, if I can’t marry you, I sure do want to know you. You are more than a treat, you are a BUDDY! Thanks for your thoughts!

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Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. That would have to be getting engaged to and moving in with an emotionally abusive sociopath back in 1985. Every time I read that Ann Rule has a new book coming out I wonder if he’s going to be the subject of it.

I’m sorry that you had to go through all of that. Angie

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My resolution is to tell the truth to people, with no sugar on top.

That’s not a resolution; that’s your motto. Marsha/Ohio

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My resolution is to tell the truth to people, with no sugar on top. That’s not a resolution; that’s your motto.

I’m resolute.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My resolution is to tell the truth to people, with no sugar on top. That’s not a resolution; that’s your motto. I’m resolute.

And a few other things, but we won’t get into that : ) Marsha/Ohio

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says… My resolution is to tell the truth to people, with no sugar on top. That’s not a resolution; that’s your motto.

No, his resolution is to hurt and anger as many newbies as possible, with extra points to himself for twisting the knife to people with major life crises. For him to say he tells the "truth" to people with no sugar on top is PILING sugar on top of shit. — Saffire 205/145/125 - 5′1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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Still upset because I turned you down? — You take stupid to a new level. – MFW

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… My resolution is to tell the truth to people, with no sugar on top. That’s not a resolution; that’s your motto. No, his resolution is to hurt and anger as many newbies as possible, with extra points to himself for twisting the knife to people with major life crises. For him to say he tells the "truth" to people with no sugar on top is PILING sugar on top of shit. — Saffire 205/145/125 - 5′1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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Still upset because I turned you down?

No. I’m not upset, but your still a fatso! Exercise more

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At least 5 megapixels? doug

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol My resolution will be to send money to Asia. There are people over there suffering because of that damn earthquake and tsunami. People surviving there are without food, water, or shelter. We can help. you’re a very kind-hearted person… I like that Angie

You don’t have to be all that generous. You can send just 10 or 20 dollars. It won’t make all that much difference, but if we all do it, it makes all the difference in the world. http://www.donate.ifrc.org/ You’re not a bad person if you don’t have the money or don’t want to do it. If you can do it, those people over there need it. For some of them, it might make the difference between life and death. I know how hard it is to donate, so I won’t mention it again.

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I have no idea what my resolution(s) will be. I’m doing ok on the diet and exercise. Needs improvement, but it’s already improving gradually without major effort, it’s just all becoming habit. Already quit smoking.

Hey cool beans! I haven’t read this group in awhile but last I read you gave up quitting and were getting alot of flak around here. How long you been off the smokes? I need – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – to quit cutting my cuticles off, just let them grow out all raggedy and get a manicure. Hard to do that. I should floss more too. — Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

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Working in a nursing home must suck, big-time.

I am a care giver at heart but nursing homes are under staffed and under paid i still loved taking care of most of the residents but after my mom passed away from colon cancer at the age of 48 I couldn’t take it anymore so now I take care of animals (not a vet tech I could never put a healthy dog down and sometimes they have to)… once again its an underpaid job but I love it. I don’t generally make New Years resolutions, but this year I may plan to watch less TV, and read more books.

I don’t like to give things up but I like to improve myself in other ways Angie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cubit 311/200/165 Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol

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I read one of Ann Rule’s books. She had been a personal acquaintance of Ted Bundy.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. That would have to be getting engaged to and moving in with an emotionally abusive sociopath back in 1985. Every time I read that Ann Rule has a new book coming out I wonder if he’s going to be the subject of it. — Saffire 205/145/125 - 5′1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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Working in a nursing home must suck, big-time. I don’t generally make New Years resolutions, but this year I may plan to watch less TV, and read more books. Cubit 311/200/165

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol

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My resolution is to tell the truth to people, with no sugar on top.

You wouldn’t know the truth if it was servered to you on a gold platter.

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Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be?

My resolution for ‘05 will be: To stop engaging in pointless arguments with MU and friends. Tom 210/180/180 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. Keeping super-organized. It looks nice when I have all the clothes folded in the dresser drawers, but as soon as I need something on the bottom it gets all jumbled again. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol I have no idea what my resolution(s) will be. I’m doing ok on the diet and exercise. Needs improvement, but it’s already improving gradually without major effort, it’s just all becoming habit. Already quit smoking. I need to quit cutting my cuticles off, just let them grow out all raggedy and get a manicure. Hard to do that. I should floss more too. — Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

you have done a lot for your well being this year maybe you should make your resolution a spa-manicure once a month or every 2 weeks… Angie

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Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol

My resolution will be to send money to Asia. There are people over there suffering because of that damn earthquake and tsunami. People surviving there are without food, water, or shelter. We can help.

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Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week.

Keeping super-organized. It looks nice when I have all the clothes folded in the dresser drawers, but as soon as I need something on the bottom it gets all jumbled again. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol

I have no idea what my resolution(s) will be. I’m doing ok on the diet and exercise. Needs improvement, but it’s already improving gradually without major effort, it’s just all becoming habit. Already quit smoking. I need to quit cutting my cuticles off, just let them grow out all raggedy and get a manicure. Hard to do that. I should floss more too. — Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol My resolution will be to send money to Asia. There are people over there suffering because of that damn earthquake and tsunami. People surviving there are without food, water, or shelter. We can help.

you’re a very kind-hearted person… I like that Angie

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Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week.

That would have to be getting engaged to and moving in with an emotionally abusive sociopath back in 1985. Every time I read that Ann Rule has a new book coming out I wonder if he’s going to be the subject of it. — Saffire 205/145/125 - 5′1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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My resolution is to tell the truth to people, with no sugar on top. — You take stupid to a new level. – MFW

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok so low-carb is a life long resolution so that would be out for this group so what if any will your resolution be? what was the worst resolution you ever made? one that was just stupid or didnt last but a day or week. My resolution will be the same as always give at least one compliment to a stranger a day Yes I do this all year round (stop someone in a shop "I like your dress") but tend to slip from the every day thing to a every week thing so I like to renew it… When I was a CNA at a nursing home, I once tried saying I love my job instead of I hate my job… it gave me a better outlook but it didn’t last very long maybe a week or two lol

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I'm in deep ………

admin — Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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LOL Bev…. too funny?… NOT.! But I do suggest you keep on eating that low salt rice a roni!! Hugs from Shelagh btw: hope your day is tons better today! couldn’t be much worse I think?! "Beverley" wrote in message

news:4DxWc.971$HY.648@trnddc03… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Tonight I was helping my granddaughter move her room around. > She wants a big > girl room and wanted a change. Well, where we thought we’d > place the > furniture it didn’t fit – I mis-calculated by about 3 inches. > Big huge old > bed and big old wardrobe, etc.!!! Grrrrr!!!!! > Then I had asked my granddaughter to pull the laundry from the > dryer and > hang what needed hanging, etc. But when I came down to put her > sheets in the > dryer the stuff was piled on top of the dryer falling off down > the back of > the machine. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! > Then my (at that moment not) darling hubby had something else > to say about > something and another GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > And it was time to take my BP!!!!!!!!!! Oh, sure let’s take it > now. Is there > anything else that can go not exactly right??? Does anyone else > have > anything negative they like to tell me ??? So I go sit down for > my nightly > ritual of BP and "darling" hubby has something else to say. So > naturally I > snap back at him while he’s pumping up the darn cuff. Oh, sure > let’s see > what my BP is when I’m this PO’d. Why not I have a headache, I > have an ear > ache, I have a tooth ache, my left shoulder is killing me, my > right arm > aches because I’ve been painting today on a ladder with a brush > high above > my head, every mosquito for miles found me today, I worked for > 2.5 hours > which does nothing but mess up my day, the arches on my feet > hurt and my > legs feel extra weak all probably from standing on the ladder, > my back is > killing me form moving furniture, so I feel like crap and I’ve > got a > granddaughter who seems to want without giving, a husband who > has been so > tied up with a project at work that he seems to not notice > anything in the > house and when he does it is to make a nasty comment???? And > guess who ate > "low salt" Rice A Roni tonight with her chicken for dinner? > Sure take that > BP!!!!!!!!!!! > BP was 120 over 78. How did that happen??? I give up!!! > Bev > "J" wrote in message > news:4129940D.D79099BF@execulink.com… >> Beverley wrote: >> > No I’m taking the brand name stuff. >> thanks >> > My BP skyrocketed tonight. Don’t know why – maybe because I >> > drank a > couple >> > of cups of real coffee today instead of the decaf? Hubby >> > took it again > about >> > 15 minutes later and it had dropped considerably. It was >> > 150/110 and > fell to >> > 130/90. Yes, I know it was that high because my daughter >> > walked through > the >> > door and I had her re-take it. She left and when my husband >> > re-took it > it >> > had fallen. Hmmmm. >> try being "laid back" >> Blood pressure may rise temporarily due to exercise, >> excitement, anger or >> anxiety making your heart beat faster. >> Any one reading can be affected by temporary anxiety or >> excitement. >> Yes, so put that BP measurer away and learn, nay, force >> yourself to "wind >> yourself down" >> J

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In article , Beverley wrote [ >Janers keeps telling me to stop obsessing over it. Sorry, Janers, when it >goes down and stays where it belongs I'll quit obsessing. LOL

Don't forget the "white coat effect" - the act of taking blood pressure (especially by a doctor in a white coat) can cause stress which raises it. -- Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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Low salt Rice a Roni is still way too high in salt for what I am allowed. Bev "Shelagh" wrote in message

news:cjJWc.205789$J06.7097@pd7tw2no… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> LOL Bev…. too funny?… NOT.! > But I do suggest you keep on eating that low salt rice a roni!! > > Hugs from Shelagh > btw: hope your day is tons better today! couldn’t be much > worse I think?! > "Beverley" wrote in message > news:4DxWc.971$HY.648@trnddc03… > > Tonight I was helping my granddaughter move her room around. > > She wants a big > > girl room and wanted a change. Well, where we thought we’d > > place the > > furniture it didn’t fit – I mis-calculated by about 3 inches. > > Big huge old > > bed and big old wardrobe, etc.!!! Grrrrr!!!!! > > Then I had asked my granddaughter to pull the laundry from the > > dryer and > > hang what needed hanging, etc. But when I came down to put her > > sheets in the > > dryer the stuff was piled on top of the dryer falling off down > > the back of > > the machine. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! > > Then my (at that moment not) darling hubby had something else > > to say about > > something and another GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > And it was time to take my BP!!!!!!!!!! Oh, sure let’s take it > > now. Is there > > anything else that can go not exactly right??? Does anyone else > > have > > anything negative they like to tell me ??? So I go sit down for > > my nightly > > ritual of BP and "darling" hubby has something else to say. So > > naturally I > > snap back at him while he’s pumping up the darn cuff. Oh, sure > > let’s see > > what my BP is when I’m this PO’d. Why not I have a headache, I > > have an ear > > ache, I have a tooth ache, my left shoulder is killing me, my > > right arm > > aches because I’ve been painting today on a ladder with a brush > > high above > > my head, every mosquito for miles found me today, I worked for > > 2.5 hours > > which does nothing but mess up my day, the arches on my feet > > hurt and my > > legs feel extra weak all probably from standing on the ladder, > > my back is > > killing me form moving furniture, so I feel like crap and I’ve > > got a > > granddaughter who seems to want without giving, a husband who > > has been so > > tied up with a project at work that he seems to not notice > > anything in the > > house and when he does it is to make a nasty comment???? And > > guess who ate > > "low salt" Rice A Roni tonight with her chicken for dinner? > > Sure take that > > BP!!!!!!!!!!! > > BP was 120 over 78. How did that happen??? I give up!!! > > Bev > > "J" wrote in message > > news:4129940D.D79099BF@execulink.com… > >> Beverley wrote: > >> > No I’m taking the brand name stuff. > >> thanks > >> > My BP skyrocketed tonight. Don’t know why – maybe because I > >> > drank a > > couple > >> > of cups of real coffee today instead of the decaf? Hubby > >> > took it again > > about > >> > 15 minutes later and it had dropped considerably. It was > >> > 150/110 and > > fell to > >> > 130/90. Yes, I know it was that high because my daughter > >> > walked through > > the > >> > door and I had her re-take it. She left and when my husband > >> > re-took it > > it > >> > had fallen. Hmmmm. > >> try being "laid back" > >> Blood pressure may rise temporarily due to exercise, > >> excitement, anger or > >> anxiety making your heart beat faster. > >> Any one reading can be affected by temporary anxiety or > >> excitement. > >> Yes, so put that BP measurer away and learn, nay, force > >> yourself to "wind > >> yourself down" > >> J

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"Beverley" wrote in message

news:SBWQc.662$Se2.127@nwrddc01.gnilink.net… > No, I’m not ignoring comments. I plan to put together a very nice letter > this weekend stating that I really cannot work these long hours. And that > she need to find someplace to replace me. Obviously I am not going to give > it to her while she is in the hospital. But she’s got to find someone else. > It’s too much for me and obviously if I’m not up to par then the children > are not getting from me what they need from an adult. > Bev

((( BEV))) ok , Sherry , Now that we have Bev on a letter mission , can we get her to deliver it ???? Bruce On. " east coast chowder , MMMMM , loved it when down there "

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Gee when do I give her the letter??? Let’s see, I went to the hospital today to see her. She’s got diverticulitis(SP?) (caught just as it was abscessing), pneumonia, UTI, and kidney infection. They are supposed to let her out of the hospital if all goes well on Monday. Bev "Bruce" wrote in message

news:IL5Rc.1530182$Ar.91576@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Beverley" wrote in message > news:SBWQc.662$Se2.127@nwrddc01.gnilink.net… > > No, I’m not ignoring comments. I plan to put together a very nice letter > > this weekend stating that I really cannot work these long hours. And that > > she need to find someplace to replace me. Obviously I am not going to give > > it to her while she is in the hospital. But she’s got to find someone > else. > > It’s too much for me and obviously if I’m not up to par then the children > > are not getting from me what they need from an adult. > > Bev > ((( BEV))) > ok , Sherry , Now that we have Bev on a letter mission , can we get her to > deliver it ???? > Bruce On. " east coast chowder , MMMMM , loved it when down there "

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Hi Bev, sorry I am slow on this one LOL. Haven’t had time so just checked in. I would give her the note in a few days after she is home. Don’t want to shock her too much. Just go slow and it will all work out. IF she asks why, then tell her the truth. HOW is the BP? I got more pics of baby, let me know ok? hugs janers

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Beverley wrote:

> But at least these kids are little and you don’t get what some of the school > age children have learned. I’m not dealing with a 12 YO with a foul mouth. I > don’t know how teachers manage with some of the older kids. I’ve been hit > and bit but at least these kids can be picked up and put in time out. I > don’t take a bunch of crap and they know it.

High School teacher reporting in: The younguns require physical energy. The older teens require mental energy!! If one can ignore the verbal spouting and recognize the stresses these kids are dealing with, they can be quite fun! (Me, I have a lot of respect for the Middle School teachers. Middle schoolers are at a confusing turning point in their lives.) It’s not the kids but the constant stress from the way our program is run that wears me out! Good teachers make the job look "easy" (because, hey, we do spend all of our "free" time at home planning) so there seems to be a mentality of "give them more work!" Believe me, teaching ain’t easy!! But it definitely has its rewards. cp

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I sure hope so Bruce! Our health isn’t anything to play around with. Especially when we have family that we love and care about and that love and care about us! Big hearts sometimes get in our way! Hugs, Sherry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ok , Sherry , Now that we have Bev on a letter mission , can we get her to > deliver it ???? > Bruce On. " east coast chowder , MMMMM , loved it when down there "

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Beverley wrote: > Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP.

Bev, are you taking a brand name (instead of generic ) BP med? I just saw a post on the fibro newsgroup, where a poster claims it’s been documented that the generic raises her BP. J

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No I’m taking the brand name stuff. My BP skyrocketed tonight. Don’t know why – maybe because I drank a couple of cups of real coffee today instead of the decaf? Hubby took it again about 15 minutes later and it had dropped considerably. It was 150/110 and fell to 130/90. Yes, I know it was that high because my daughter walked through the door and I had her re-take it. She left and when my husband re-took it it had fallen. Hmmmm. Janers keeps telling me to stop obsessing over it. Sorry, Janers, when it goes down and stays where it belongs I’ll quit obsessing. LOL The nutritionist told me I can add a little more salt to my diet and still be considered way below normal salt intake. It’s hard to keep the salt out of the diet. It’s hiding in everything!! Bev "J" wrote in message

news:4129093B.D7034EE5@execulink.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Beverley wrote: > > Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. > Bev, are you taking a brand name (instead of generic ) BP med? > I just saw a post on the fibro newsgroup, where a poster claims it’s been > documented that the generic raises her BP. > J

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Beverley wrote: > No I’m taking the brand name stuff.

thanks > My BP skyrocketed tonight. Don’t know why – maybe because I drank a couple > of cups of real coffee today instead of the decaf? Hubby took it again about > 15 minutes later and it had dropped considerably. It was 150/110 and fell to > 130/90. Yes, I know it was that high because my daughter walked through the > door and I had her re-take it. She left and when my husband re-took it it > had fallen. Hmmmm.

try being "laid back" Blood pressure may rise temporarily due to exercise, excitement, anger or anxiety making your heart beat faster. Any one reading can be affected by temporary anxiety or excitement. Yes, so put that BP measurer away and learn, nay, force yourself to "wind yourself down" J

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Tonight I was helping my granddaughter move her room around. She wants a big girl room and wanted a change. Well, where we thought we’d place the furniture it didn’t fit – I mis-calculated by about 3 inches. Big huge old bed and big old wardrobe, etc.!!! Grrrrr!!!!! Then I had asked my granddaughter to pull the laundry from the dryer and hang what needed hanging, etc. But when I came down to put her sheets in the dryer the stuff was piled on top of the dryer falling off down the back of the machine. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! Then my (at that moment not) darling hubby had something else to say about something and another GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it was time to take my BP!!!!!!!!!! Oh, sure let’s take it now. Is there anything else that can go not exactly right??? Does anyone else have anything negative they like to tell me ??? So I go sit down for my nightly ritual of BP and "darling" hubby has something else to say. So naturally I snap back at him while he’s pumping up the darn cuff. Oh, sure let’s see what my BP is when I’m this PO’d. Why not I have a headache, I have an ear ache, I have a tooth ache, my left shoulder is killing me, my right arm aches because I’ve been painting today on a ladder with a brush high above my head, every mosquito for miles found me today, I worked for 2.5 hours which does nothing but mess up my day, the arches on my feet hurt and my legs feel extra weak all probably from standing on the ladder, my back is killing me form moving furniture, so I feel like crap and I’ve got a granddaughter who seems to want without giving, a husband who has been so tied up with a project at work that he seems to not notice anything in the house and when he does it is to make a nasty comment???? And guess who ate "low salt" Rice A Roni tonight with her chicken for dinner? Sure take that BP!!!!!!!!!!! BP was 120 over 78. How did that happen??? I give up!!! Bev "J" wrote in message

news:4129940D.D79099BF@execulink.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Beverley wrote: > > No I’m taking the brand name stuff. > thanks > > My BP skyrocketed tonight. Don’t know why – maybe because I drank a couple > > of cups of real coffee today instead of the decaf? Hubby took it again about > > 15 minutes later and it had dropped considerably. It was 150/110 and fell to > > 130/90. Yes, I know it was that high because my daughter walked through the > > door and I had her re-take it. She left and when my husband re-took it it > > had fallen. Hmmmm. > try being "laid back" > Blood pressure may rise temporarily due to exercise, excitement, anger or > anxiety making your heart beat faster. > Any one reading can be affected by temporary anxiety or excitement. > Yes, so put that BP measurer away and learn, nay, force yourself to "wind > yourself down" > J

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No, I’m not ignoring comments. I plan to put together a very nice letter this weekend stating that I really cannot work these long hours. And that she need to find someplace to replace me. Obviously I am not going to give it to her while she is in the hospital. But she’s got to find someone else. It’s too much for me and obviously if I’m not up to par then the children are not getting from me what they need from an adult. Bev "Sherry" wrote in message

news:05WQc.2718$0q3.1841@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dinner at my house is fin for yourself and whatever you can find to either > cook or re-heat. They are used to that tho!! > New England Clam Chowder sounds yummy to me. > But you still ignored everyones comments. LOL > Hugs, > Sherry > "Beverley" wrote in message > news:uQTQc.1423$114.603@nwrddc02.gnilink.net… > > BP when I get in tonight was 140/92 not exactly good but could have been > > worse. > > I have my granddaughter who was supposed to be picked up by her dad but > he’s > > decided to come tomorrow for her. She doesn’t want to go with him so I’m > not > > forcing that issue. But I wasn’t prepared for dinner to have her. She > found > > a can of soup she wanted, New England Clam Chowder. So that is what she is > > eating. Her mom had made plans for this weekend and asked if I’d keep her > > until her dad picked her up about 5 PM. "Sure, no problem!" LOL When will > I > > learn???? > > My DH is eating the rest of the Clam Chowder and fish sticks. > > So now I’m fixing my dinner two pieces of beef strip – tough little > buggers > > and some salad. I wound up eating what the kids had for lunch so I am way > > off for salt intake for today. I’ll make bets I had 700mg of salt in one > > meal!! > > I hate fixing everybody something different!! > > Bev > > "Beverley" wrote in message > > news:UVAQc.684$721.83@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… > > > Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > > > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t > > know > > > why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one > > I’m > > > pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the > > > director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut > back > > my > > > hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me > > with > > > the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a > few > > > hours a month. No such luck. > > > I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy > telling > > > me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I > > didn’t > > > get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real > well > > > this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work > > > early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, > > > after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the > > > doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with > > tears > > > in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died > > of > > > colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing > in > > > motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency > surgery > > > in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who > knows > > > how long. > > > And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s > office > > I > > > think on Monday. > > > Bev

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I know, I know!!! I’ve got to quit or almost quit. It’s one thing to work a few hours when there is a true need but I don’t need to be working the way I am. My friend owns the school!! OM, your ex-MIL, that is a shame. I know that is putting you in a difficult position. Bev "Bruce" wrote in message

news:ieNQc.346850$rCA1.327944@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> (((( BEV)))) > ok , As me sees it here! > Looking after a gaggle of little ones is high stress as they are demanding > little creatures by nature. > Your b/p is your personal stress indicater , bottom number over 100 , you > are heading for stroke city , tis that simple. > Your friend the director , does she own the school or will she have a > replacement? > She must at this time stop and look after medical needs , like right now , > with her family history. This she is doing as all the signs and symtems say > she must. > Bev , friendship aside you must do the same , your bod is showing you it’s > signs , do not ignor them. Tis the same as Woman intuition , a built in > safety from our ancesters that to many modern women ignor " gee nice > jogging at night by myself , but what is that weird feeling " DUH !! > Bev I know you always think of others first , I guess this is why I sound so > blunt , sorry , I say it as I feel it ,if not I would be a bad freind to you > and me . > Bruce On. " my ex wife called me last Monday , she was at her mothers. When > I got there one look and I knew her mother was having mini TIA’s . Even > being 5min. away and hyperventalating the O2 level to a high saturation , to > much damage done . We have to as of today start loking for a N/H for her. " > "Beverley" wrote in message > news:UVAQc.684$721.83@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… > > Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t > know > > why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one > I’m > > pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the > > director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back > my > > hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me > with > > the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a few > > hours a month. No such luck. > > I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling > > me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I > didn’t > > get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real well > > this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work > > early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, > > after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the > > doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with > tears > > in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died > of > > colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in > > motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency surgery > > in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who knows > > how long. > > And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s office > I > > think on Monday. > > Bev

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LOL You got it!!!! Yep I have two little partners in crime. Both are not quite 3 YO and what one doesn’t think of the other does. Then I have a wanderer, got to keep a close eye on him all the time. Plus I have no clue what he is saying. He comes up and tells me a whole stream of stuff and I might be able to pick out one word. Two brand new 2 YO’s and they have no clue what is going on at any time. Then there is the 5 YO tattle-telling whiner, he whines over everything. Oh, the list goes on and on. Actually I don’t get as caught up in what they do as I would have my own children. I don’t worry if the ketchup is down the front of them. I would have died to think my child had been bathing in ketchup. LOL So when they do things that would have driven me up a wall if they had been mine it just doesn’t have the same effect. I’m not saying I don’t care about them but I don’t have the same sort of "personal stake" in them. But my patience is worn thin by the time I’ve dealt with them all day and often I come home to a grandchild to whom I will flat out tell not to bother me as I have had enough kids for one day. So she’s learned to leave me alone for a while and not step on my nerves. Guess that is not being fair to the kids all day long or the grandchild. But at least these kids are little and you don’t get what some of the school age children have learned. I’m not dealing with a 12 YO with a foul mouth. I don’t know how teachers manage with some of the older kids. I’ve been hit and bit but at least these kids can be picked up and put in time out. I don’t take a bunch of crap and they know it. Mostly my job is to just love them and to protect them from themselves. Lots of hugs, lots of cheers and high fives for jobs well done. I’ve got one little guy almost tying his shoes by himself. Getting that one bunny ear to go though the hole is the hardest part. But the physical end of it is just too much. I went from a good paying job as head gardener to this. This just fouls up my time. I need to spend it in my house. I only have so much energy and I need to spend it in my house. Ok, I’m whining!! Bev "Cindy Mathes" wrote in message

news:nELQc.1690$271.974@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Bev, > Will it never end sweetie… > You know that you have to take care of you.. > Maybe after she recovers from her surgery, you can tell her and offer to > help her find someone to help.. > And what did you say about this not being a high stress job…You work with > children….Okay…I know some people are made for that…I love my > grandchildren… > but I worked in a daycare when I was young…OH MY GOODNESS… > Very high stress. They keep you at a level of loving to be there with them > at one moment to Oh how I wish that were my child so that I could do bodily > harm the next. > Not that I ever would, but these are the emotions that you deal with > everyday… > Not to mention the parents of all these perfect children that never do > anything wrong… > I feel like after saying this I need to defend myself… > But I do love children, but when you get a group of children that learn to > push your buttons…Hmmm > Did I say how much I admire teachers. and those that do care for our > future(children)? Well I do. I have the upmost respect for them. > Hugs Bev > "Beverley" wrote in message > news:UVAQc.684$721.83@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… > > Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t > know > > why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one > I’m > > pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the > > director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back > my > > hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me > with > > the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a few > > hours a month. No such luck. > > I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling > > me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I > didn’t > > get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real well > > this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work > > early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, > > after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the > > doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with > tears > > in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died > of > > colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in > > motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency surgery > > in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who knows > > how long. > > And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s office > I > > think on Monday. > > Bev

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Dinner at my house is fin for yourself and whatever you can find to either cook or re-heat. They are used to that tho!! New England Clam Chowder sounds yummy to me. But you still ignored everyones comments. LOL Hugs, Sherry "Beverley" wrote in message

news:uQTQc.1423$114.603@nwrddc02.gnilink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> BP when I get in tonight was 140/92 not exactly good but could have been > worse. > I have my granddaughter who was supposed to be picked up by her dad but he’s > decided to come tomorrow for her. She doesn’t want to go with him so I’m not > forcing that issue. But I wasn’t prepared for dinner to have her. She found > a can of soup she wanted, New England Clam Chowder. So that is what she is > eating. Her mom had made plans for this weekend and asked if I’d keep her > until her dad picked her up about 5 PM. "Sure, no problem!" LOL When will I > learn???? > My DH is eating the rest of the Clam Chowder and fish sticks. > So now I’m fixing my dinner two pieces of beef strip – tough little buggers > and some salad. I wound up eating what the kids had for lunch so I am way > off for salt intake for today. I’ll make bets I had 700mg of salt in one > meal!! > I hate fixing everybody something different!! > Bev > "Beverley" wrote in message > news:UVAQc.684$721.83@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… > > Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t > know > > why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one > I’m > > pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the > > director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back > my > > hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me > with > > the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a few > > hours a month. No such luck. > > I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling > > me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I > didn’t > > get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real well > > this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work > > early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, > > after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the > > doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with > tears > > in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died > of > > colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in > > motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency surgery > > in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who knows > > how long. > > And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s office > I > > think on Monday. > > Bev

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BP when I get in tonight was 140/92 not exactly good but could have been worse. I have my granddaughter who was supposed to be picked up by her dad but he’s decided to come tomorrow for her. She doesn’t want to go with him so I’m not forcing that issue. But I wasn’t prepared for dinner to have her. She found a can of soup she wanted, New England Clam Chowder. So that is what she is eating. Her mom had made plans for this weekend and asked if I’d keep her until her dad picked her up about 5 PM. "Sure, no problem!" LOL When will I learn???? My DH is eating the rest of the Clam Chowder and fish sticks. So now I’m fixing my dinner two pieces of beef strip – tough little buggers and some salad. I wound up eating what the kids had for lunch so I am way off for salt intake for today. I’ll make bets I had 700mg of salt in one meal!! I hate fixing everybody something different!! Bev "Beverley" wrote in message

news:UVAQc.684$721.83@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t know > why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one I’m > pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the > director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back my > hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me with > the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a few > hours a month. No such luck. > I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling > me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I didn’t > get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real well > this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work > early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, > after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the > doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with tears > in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died of > colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in > motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency surgery > in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who knows > how long. > And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s office I > think on Monday. > Bev

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"Bruce" wrote in message

Bruce On. " my ex wife called me last Monday , she was at her mothers. When > I got there one look and I knew her mother was having mini TIA’s . Even > being 5min. away and hyperventalating the O2 level to a high saturation , to > much damage done . We have to as of today start loking for a

N/H for her. " Bruce I am sending good luck and well wishes to you, your wife and your MIL…. what a terrible thing to have to deal with! I know we all will have a decision like that at some time in our life but I feel so bad for you and Marcia that it had to happen in such a way! Good luck with the NH and take care of yourselves! Hugs from Shelagh http://continue.to/lupus

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Bev, Your first consideration should be you! Your second should be George Your third and fourth your daughters your 5th your grandkids All of the above considerations deserve to have YOU think of yourself and your health first!!!!!! So, my suggestion would be to tell your friend that you will do what you can do but it will not be extra hours. You may need to cut back even tho she is in hospital having surgery and then a replacement needs to be found for you!!!!! ASAP Your boss/ friend has been added to my prayers and thoughts. Hugs, Sherry

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Bruce, Sounds like you could use a few prayers and good thoughts also… Hugs Cindy "Bruce" wrote in message

news:ieNQc.346850$rCA1.327944@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> (((( BEV)))) > ok , As me sees it here! > Looking after a gaggle of little ones is high stress as they are demanding > little creatures by nature. > Your b/p is your personal stress indicater , bottom number over 100 , you > are heading for stroke city , tis that simple. > Your friend the director , does she own the school or will she have a > replacement? > She must at this time stop and look after medical needs , like right now , > with her family history. This she is doing as all the signs and symtems say > she must. > Bev , friendship aside you must do the same , your bod is showing you it’s > signs , do not ignor them. Tis the same as Woman intuition , a built in > safety from our ancesters that to many modern women ignor " gee nice > jogging at night by myself , but what is that weird feeling " DUH !! > Bev I know you always think of others first , I guess this is why I sound so > blunt , sorry , I say it as I feel it ,if not I would be a bad freind to you > and me . > Bruce On. " my ex wife called me last Monday , she was at her mothers. When > I got there one look and I knew her mother was having mini TIA’s . Even > being 5min. away and hyperventalating the O2 level to a high saturation , to > much damage done . We have to as of today start loking for a N/H for her. " > "Beverley" wrote in message > news:UVAQc.684$721.83@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… > > Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t > know > > why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one > I’m > > pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the > > director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back > my > > hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me > with > > the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a few > > hours a month. No such luck. > > I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling > > me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I > didn’t > > get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real well > > this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work > > early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, > > after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the > > doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with > tears > > in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died > of > > colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in > > motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency surgery > > in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who knows > > how long. > > And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s office > I > > think on Monday. > > Bev

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Hi Bev, Bruce has said it so well, as always. I know it is hard when it is a friend, but I think you have to consider your own health. High b/p is nothing to ignore. There are a lot of people who really care about you. Don’t put your own problems aside. BJ-Sk. Canada "Bruce" wrote in message

news:ieNQc.346850$rCA1.327944@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> (((( BEV)))) > ok , As me sees it here! > Looking after a gaggle of little ones is high stress as they are demanding > little creatures by nature. > Your b/p is your personal stress indicater , bottom number over 100 , you > are heading for stroke city , tis that simple. > Your friend the director , does she own the school or will she have a > replacement? > She must at this time stop and look after medical needs , like right now , > with her family history. This she is doing as all the signs and symtems say > she must. > Bev , friendship aside you must do the same , your bod is showing you it’s > signs , do not ignor them. Tis the same as Woman intuition , a built in > safety from our ancesters that to many modern women ignor " gee nice > jogging at night by myself , but what is that weird feeling " DUH !! > Bev I know you always think of others first , I guess this is why I sound so > blunt , sorry , I say it as I feel it ,if not I would be a bad freind to you > and me . > Bruce On. " my ex wife called me last Monday , she was at her mothers. When > I got there one look and I knew her mother was having mini TIA’s . Even > being 5min. away and hyperventalating the O2 level to a high saturation , to > much damage done . We have to as of today start loking for a N/H for her. " > "Beverley" wrote in message > news:UVAQc.684$721.83@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… > > Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t > know > > why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one > I’m > > pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the > > director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back > my > > hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me > with > > the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a few > > hours a month. No such luck. > > I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling > > me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I > didn’t > > get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real well > > this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work > > early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, > > after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the > > doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with > tears > > in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died > of > > colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in > > motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency surgery > > in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who knows > > how long. > > And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s office > I > > think on Monday. > > Bev

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(((( BEV)))) ok , As me sees it here! Looking after a gaggle of little ones is high stress as they are demanding little creatures by nature. Your b/p is your personal stress indicater , bottom number over 100 , you are heading for stroke city , tis that simple. Your friend the director , does she own the school or will she have a replacement? She must at this time stop and look after medical needs , like right now , with her family history. This she is doing as all the signs and symtems say she must. Bev , friendship aside you must do the same , your bod is showing you it’s signs , do not ignor them. Tis the same as Woman intuition , a built in safety from our ancesters that to many modern women ignor " gee nice jogging at night by myself , but what is that weird feeling " DUH !! Bev I know you always think of others first , I guess this is why I sound so blunt , sorry , I say it as I feel it ,if not I would be a bad freind to you and me . Bruce On. " my ex wife called me last Monday , she was at her mothers. When I got there one look and I knew her mother was having mini TIA’s . Even being 5min. away and hyperventalating the O2 level to a high saturation , to much damage done . We have to as of today start loking for a N/H for her. " "Beverley" wrote in message

news:UVAQc.684$721.83@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t know > why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one I’m > pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the > director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back my > hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me with > the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a few > hours a month. No such luck. > I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling > me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I didn’t > get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real well > this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work > early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, > after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the > doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with tears > in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died of > colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in > motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency surgery > in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who knows > how long. > And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s office I > think on Monday. > Bev

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Bev, Will it never end sweetie… You know that you have to take care of you.. Maybe after she recovers from her surgery, you can tell her and offer to help her find someone to help.. And what did you say about this not being a high stress job…You work with children….Okay…I know some people are made for that…I love my grandchildren… but I worked in a daycare when I was young…OH MY GOODNESS… Very high stress. They keep you at a level of loving to be there with them at one moment to Oh how I wish that were my child so that I could do bodily harm the next. Not that I ever would, but these are the emotions that you deal with everyday… Not to mention the parents of all these perfect children that never do anything wrong… I feel like after saying this I need to defend myself… But I do love children, but when you get a group of children that learn to push your buttons…Hmmm Did I say how much I admire teachers. and those that do care for our future(children)? Well I do. I have the upmost respect for them. Hugs Bev "Beverley" wrote in message

news:UVAQc.684$721.83@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t know > why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one I’m > pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the > director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back my > hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me with > the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a few > hours a month. No such luck. > I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling > me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I didn’t > get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real well > this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work > early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, > after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the > doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with tears > in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died of > colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in > motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency surgery > in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who knows > how long. > And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s office I > think on Monday. > Bev

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Yep I’m in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I’ve figured out that working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don’t know why. It’s really not a high stress job – other than it is a job and one I’m pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I’ve been hoping to get the director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back my hours. I figured I’d give her until Sept to find someone to replace me with the hopes that when the new school year begins I’d only have to work a few hours a month. No such luck. I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I didn’t get a chance to say anything. And I know she’s not been feeling real well this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well, after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She’d gone to the doctor’s office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with tears in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died of colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in motion and I guess pack a bag. She’s having some sort of emergency surgery in the morning. Guess that means I’m working 45 hours weeks for who knows how long. And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I’m due back to the doctor’s office I think on Monday. Bev

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Stress Management

admin — Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Okay, What is everyone’s best stress management technique? Something that works for you? I’m wound up tighter than a banjo string. I am so tense and nervous. I have a court appearance in a month and its on the 3rd floor of the courthouse. I have to have benzo’s for this unless I can find someone to go with me. I don’t know of anyone who wants to miss work at 9:00 in the morning but….Oh God I must stop the anticipatory anxiety. I’m back to puking. Joanna

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a blow job

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Joanna wrote: > Okay, What is everyone’s best stress management technique? Something > that > works for you? I’m wound up tighter than a banjo string. I am so tense > and > nervous. I have a court appearance in a month and its on the 3rd floor of > the courthouse. I have to have benzo’s for this unless I can find someone > to go with me. I don’t know of anyone who wants to miss work at 9:00 in > the > morning but….Oh God I must stop the anticipatory anxiety. I’m back to > puking. > Joanna

Breathing. If you can control your breathing, it can help control your stress levels. What I do is slow deep breaths with a shorth pause after the in-breath and after the out-breath. I mainly do this if I have trouble getting off to sleep, but I’m sure it can help in other situations. Zorg

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Joanna wrote: > Okay, What is everyone’s best stress management technique? Something > that > works for you? I’m wound up tighter than a banjo string. I am so tense

I smoke. Lots. — MYTHOLOGY, n. The body of a primitive people’s beliefs concerning its origin, early history, heroes, deities and so forth, as distinguished from the true accounts which it invents later. -Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary.

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lol, I do that too already. That doesn’t work for me. : ) Joanna "Velvet Elvis" wrote in message

news:1nkNc.15649$f4.7949@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Joanna wrote: > > Okay, What is everyone’s best stress management technique? Something > > that > > works for you? I’m wound up tighter than a banjo string. I am so tense > I smoke. Lots. > — > MYTHOLOGY, n. The body of a primitive people’s beliefs concerning its > origin, early history, heroes, deities and so forth, as distinguished from > the true accounts which it invents later. > -Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary.

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wrote in message

news:24122-4105C215-276@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net… > a blow job

NK, giggling at the thought of Joanna getting a BJ in the courtroom to relax. Not guilty yer honor.

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That’s too funny. LOL! Actually it’s a divorce hearing. I’m not worried about the settelments I’m nervous about being up so high and becoming obsessive about body symptoms. Who cares I’m getting a divorce! I’ll just be nervous about getting indigestion in front of a judge. Silly Silly disorder. It would be nice if someone was under my table to….. : ) "No Kidding!" wrote in message news:wyANc.176$Jp6.42@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> wrote in message > news:24122-4105C215-276@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net… > > a blow job > NK, giggling at the thought of Joanna getting a BJ in the courtroom to > relax. > Not guilty yer honor.

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"Joanna" wrote in message

news:lrBNc.198744$Oq2.189504@attbi_s52… > That’s too funny. LOL! > Actually it’s a divorce hearing. I’m not worried about the settelments I’m > nervous about being up so high and becoming obsessive about body symptoms. > Who cares I’m getting a divorce! I’ll just be nervous about getting > indigestion in front of a judge. Silly Silly disorder. It would be nice if > someone was under my table to….. : )

Take some rolaids with you. I have a lot of body issues, too. Like right now I have been on the Paxil two weeks and it is already starting to help. Unfortunately, it is also starting to constipate me a little. I hate to take one pill to counteract the other but I might have to go on the colace again. I have visions of me getting colon cancer in the future b/c I can’t shit properly. Hubby said he could "fix" this problem for me but his solution sounds painful NK

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hahahaha. With effexor, I’ve been shitting pet rocks! Joanna "No Kidding!" wrote in message news:tBBNc.235$Jp6.35@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Joanna" wrote in message > news:lrBNc.198744$Oq2.189504@attbi_s52… > > That’s too funny. LOL! > > Actually it’s a divorce hearing. I’m not worried about the settelments > I’m > > nervous about being up so high and becoming obsessive about body symptoms. > > Who cares I’m getting a divorce! I’ll just be nervous about getting > > indigestion in front of a judge. Silly Silly disorder. It would be nice > if > > someone was under my table to….. : ) > Take some rolaids with you. > I have a lot of body issues, too. > Like right now I have been on the Paxil two weeks and it is already starting > to help. Unfortunately, it is also starting to constipate me a little. > I hate to take one pill to counteract the other but I might have to go on > the colace again. I have visions of me getting colon cancer in the future > b/c I can’t shit properly. > Hubby said he could "fix" this problem for me but his solution sounds > painful > NK

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NK, Try Metamucil. I ate this last night and ooohhh what relief. ! "Joanna" wrote in message

news:bxDNc.199554$Oq2.82521@attbi_s52… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hahahaha. With effexor, I’ve been shitting pet rocks! > Joanna > "No Kidding!" wrote in > message news:tBBNc.235$Jp6.35@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net… > > "Joanna" wrote in message > > news:lrBNc.198744$Oq2.189504@attbi_s52… > > > That’s too funny. LOL! > > > Actually it’s a divorce hearing. I’m not worried about the settelments > > I’m > > > nervous about being up so high and becoming obsessive about body > symptoms. > > > Who cares I’m getting a divorce! I’ll just be nervous about getting > > > indigestion in front of a judge. Silly Silly disorder. It would be > nice > > if > > > someone was under my table to….. : ) > > Take some rolaids with you. > > I have a lot of body issues, too. > > Like right now I have been on the Paxil two weeks and it is already > starting > > to help. Unfortunately, it is also starting to constipate me a little. > > I hate to take one pill to counteract the other but I might have to go on > > the colace again. I have visions of me getting colon cancer in the future > > b/c I can’t shit properly. > > Hubby said he could "fix" this problem for me but his solution sounds > > painful > > NK

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"Joanna" wrote in message

news:apYOc.192821$%_6.109644@attbi_s01… > Sick and twisted That’s me! > Joanna

That’s why I like you NK

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Joanna wrote: > LOL, I got it the first time around.

Thanks, Joanna. I was worried it might be just another bum joke. Zorg

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Now *that* one I got. I guess Joanna is just more twisted than me NK "Zorg" wrote in message

news:410be86f$0$93587$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Joanna wrote: > > LOL, I got it the first time around. > Thanks, Joanna. I was worried it might be just another bum joke. > Zorg

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No Kidding! wrote: > Now *that* one I got. > I guess Joanna is just more twisted than me > NK

If twisted, you wouldn’t want her near… Zorg

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Sick and twisted That’s me! Joanna "No Kidding!" wrote in message news:%iVOc.4277$Jp6.1187@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Now *that* one I got. > I guess Joanna is just more twisted than me > NK > "Zorg" wrote in message > news:410be86f$0$93587$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net… > > Joanna wrote: > > > LOL, I got it the first time around. > > Thanks, Joanna. I was worried it might be just another bum joke. > > Zorg

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> Did you hear about the turd that bumped into a sphincter? It came back and > said it had just met a muscle. > Zorg

I know what a sphincter is but I don’t get the joke? NK….dense today for some reason

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No Kidding! wrote: >>> NK, >>>

IBD or IBS concern, looking for advice…

admin — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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Paul, Your case has many similarities to my recent experiences. Male, 42yo. About 5 years ago I had huge stomach pains. Endoscopy showed that I had irritation of stomach and esophagus due to high levels of acid. I was put on ranitidine (Zocor or Rani) which cleared up the pains instantly. In recent times I had been suffering from GERD. I increased dosage of the ranitidine from two to three per day yet it continued to get worse. All this time, my IBS would cycle between just diarrhoea to painful diarrhoea. Whenever it was at a bad point in the cycle, I got slight bleeding. This had been previously diagnosed very similar to yours: fissures around anus, nothing serious or internal. I could feel what was happening. When the D was bad, it felt ‘hot’ and soon after that the bleeding started. The longer the IBS stayed bad, the worse the bleeding got and when the IBS got better, it all healed up ready for the next cycle. Excessive acid was burning holes in my anus. The bleeding was at the end of each BM because thats what it took to open the fissures. Not long ago, I went back to my Doc complaining about GERD; even three tablets per day wasn’t keeping up. He put me onto esomeprazole (Nexium). That immediately made the GERD go away, and surprise, surprise, so too the severity of the IBS. No more burning D, no more bleeding. I put it to you that you may have a similar acidic condition to mine. Five years ago, I had no GERD symptoms but I had several episodes of crippling pain from stomach – similar to yours. Acid controlling drugs fixed it. When their effect wore off, I was left with GERD and burning diarrhoea – a plausible connection in your case. The stronger drug reduced the acid, the diarrhoea and eliminated the bleeding. Ask your Doctor to challenge your symptoms with a trial run of an acid reducing drug. Not the stuff that just neutralises it, but a real H2 blocker or PPI. If you are already on this, increase the strength. Hope this helps, — KPB – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sturmtiger wrote: > Greetings, > Am putting this into two groups (am not x-posting it however). Am feeling > a bit backed into a corner lately health wise, and am looking for advice, > and a little bit of venting. > I am a 32 year old male with a history of minor intestinal problems. Back > in 1999, I started to have a lot of blood in my stool, and especially in > the toilet (fresh blood, not digested). Was worried so I had a full GI > workup. > First had a colonoscopy (no sedation, have an anxiety disorder when it > comes to being knocked out or heavily sedated). Went fine, some > discomfort, but got through it. It showed some fissures and hemmhoroids, > but nothing serious. > Then had a Endoscopy (again without sedation), but was unable to get > through it, the scope broke once he got it into the stomach, when he tried > to put in the second one, I lost it. Could not continue. > Then had an upper GI with small bowel follow through, was negative. > Was still having problems with bleeding and some bloating for the next few > years, but nothing that scared me, until 3 months ago. > Within the last 3 months I have started to have periods of tremendous pain > and discomfort that would fluctuate at various times between my lower > stomach and lower colon. At first I thought it was a stomach issue, so I > had an Endoscopy performed a few months ago (again no sedation), had a > great doc and got through it, only found a hiatal hernia and schlotsky’s > ring. > Was happy with the negative result, and did not think it was anything > serious. However a month later the pain came back more intensely, and was > fluctuating in the same area again (mainly lower-mid bowel). Bleeding > started, and it was heavy at times, and I also noticed by stool changing > in shape (getting smaller, almost like it is being cut in half down the > center on the way out). The blood seems to be "piggybacking" the stool, > i.e. coming out at the end of the bowel movement, not before of during. > Have been to the ER twice in the last month, but they do not seem to be > set up for GI diagnostic situations, so I was prescribed Donetal both > times, and sent on my way (blood test results were normal, but the occult > blood test was positive). The Donetal really doesn’t work, only makes me > feel drugged, but doesn’t affect the digestive tract. > The ER doc stated he fully believed it is one of three things, either > Colon Cancer, Diverticulitis (or losis?), or IBD. I had been diagnosed > with IBS in the past (more like the doc could find nothing else in 99′, so > he threw the IBS dart). > Now have a colonoscopy scheduled for next week, same great doc that did my > endoscopy, so I am not too worried about the procedure itself, am just at > a point where I am a bit scared. > I have been going through a major roller coaster ride, when the pain comes > on, it not only affects me physically, but my mood as well. My wife has > seen these major mood swings lately because of the pain, and it has been > difficult. > At this point I just needed to vent, and also look for advice from others > who have been down a similar path. I honestly have no clue what is > happening, but it definitely feels serious. Will (hopefully) know next > week, but until then just wondering how to cope. > Many thanks, > Paul

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Sturmtiger" wrote in message … > Greetings, > Am putting this into two groups (am not x-posting it however). Am feeling a > bit backed into a corner lately health wise, and am looking for advice, and > a little bit of venting. > I am a 32 year old male with a history of minor intestinal problems. Back in > 1999, I started to have a lot of blood in my stool, and especially in the > toilet (fresh blood, not digested). Was worried so I had a full GI workup. > First had a colonoscopy (no sedation, have an anxiety disorder when it comes > to being knocked out or heavily sedated). Went fine, some discomfort, but > got through it. It showed some fissures and hemmhoroids, but nothing > serious. > Then had a Endoscopy (again without sedation), but was unable to get through > it, the scope broke once he got it into the stomach, when he tried to put in > the second one, I lost it. Could not continue. > Then had an upper GI with small bowel follow through, was negative. > Was still having problems with bleeding and some bloating for the next few > years, but nothing that scared me, until 3 months ago. > Within the last 3 months I have started to have periods of tremendous pain > and discomfort that would fluctuate at various times between my lower > stomach and lower colon. At first I thought it was a stomach issue, so I had > an Endoscopy performed a few months ago (again no sedation), had a great doc > and got through it, only found a hiatal hernia and schlotsky’s ring. > Was happy with the negative result, and did not think it was anything > serious. However a month later the pain came back more intensely, and was > fluctuating in the same area again (mainly lower-mid bowel). Bleeding > started, and it was heavy at times, and I also noticed by stool changing in > shape (getting smaller, almost like it is being cut in half down the center > on the way out). The blood seems to be "piggybacking" the stool, i.e. coming > out at the end of the bowel movement, not before of during. > Have been to the ER twice in the last month, but they do not seem to be set > up for GI diagnostic situations, so I was prescribed Donetal both times, and > sent on my way (blood test results were normal, but the occult blood test > was positive). The Donetal really doesn’t work, only makes me feel drugged, > but doesn’t affect the digestive tract. > The ER doc stated he fully believed it is one of three things, either Colon > Cancer, Diverticulitis (or losis?), or IBD. I had been diagnosed with IBS in > the past (more like the doc could find nothing else in 99′, so he threw the > IBS dart). > Now have a colonoscopy scheduled for next week, same great doc that did my > endoscopy, so I am not too worried about the procedure itself, am just at a > point where I am a bit scared. > I have been going through a major roller coaster ride, when the pain comes > on, it not only affects me physically, but my mood as well. My wife has seen > these major mood swings lately because of the pain, and it has been > difficult. > At this point I just needed to vent, and also look for advice from others > who have been down a similar path. I honestly have no clue what is > happening, but it definitely feels serious. Will (hopefully) know next week, > but until then just wondering how to cope. > Many thanks, > Paul

I don’t know if this will help or not. I was diagnosed with collagenous colitis in april after a 10 year search. My IBD was diagnosed by a full colonoscopy with multiple biopsies fo the entire colon. altho it is primarily found in women, men can get it, too. Just another thing to think about.

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Greetings, Am putting this into two groups (am not x-posting it however). Am feeling a bit backed into a corner lately health wise, and am looking for advice, and a little bit of venting. I am a 32 year old male with a history of minor intestinal problems. Back in 1999, I started to have a lot of blood in my stool, and especially in the toilet (fresh blood, not digested). Was worried so I had a full GI workup. First had a colonoscopy (no sedation, have an anxiety disorder when it comes to being knocked out or heavily sedated). Went fine, some discomfort, but got through it. It showed some fissures and hemmhoroids, but nothing serious. Then had a Endoscopy (again without sedation), but was unable to get through it, the scope broke once he got it into the stomach, when he tried to put in the second one, I lost it. Could not continue. Then had an upper GI with small bowel follow through, was negative. Was still having problems with bleeding and some bloating for the next few years, but nothing that scared me, until 3 months ago. Within the last 3 months I have started to have periods of tremendous pain and discomfort that would fluctuate at various times between my lower stomach and lower colon. At first I thought it was a stomach issue, so I had an Endoscopy performed a few months ago (again no sedation), had a great doc and got through it, only found a hiatal hernia and schlotsky’s ring. Was happy with the negative result, and did not think it was anything serious. However a month later the pain came back more intensely, and was fluctuating in the same area again (mainly lower-mid bowel). Bleeding started, and it was heavy at times, and I also noticed by stool changing in shape (getting smaller, almost like it is being cut in half down the center on the way out). The blood seems to be "piggybacking" the stool, i.e. coming out at the end of the bowel movement, not before of during. Have been to the ER twice in the last month, but they do not seem to be set up for GI diagnostic situations, so I was prescribed Donetal both times, and sent on my way (blood test results were normal, but the occult blood test was positive). The Donetal really doesn’t work, only makes me feel drugged, but doesn’t affect the digestive tract. The ER doc stated he fully believed it is one of three things, either Colon Cancer, Diverticulitis (or losis?), or IBD. I had been diagnosed with IBS in the past (more like the doc could find nothing else in 99′, so he threw the IBS dart). Now have a colonoscopy scheduled for next week, same great doc that did my endoscopy, so I am not too worried about the procedure itself, am just at a point where I am a bit scared. I have been going through a major roller coaster ride, when the pain comes on, it not only affects me physically, but my mood as well. My wife has seen these major mood swings lately because of the pain, and it has been difficult. At this point I just needed to vent, and also look for advice from others who have been down a similar path. I honestly have no clue what is happening, but it definitely feels serious. Will (hopefully) know next week, but until then just wondering how to cope. Many thanks, Paul

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