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Fresh Chip Toxicity
Question:
I have a question. I was told that cherry, maybe the whole Prunus species, are toxic to horses. Does anyone know if this is just fresh chips, fresh twigs and or fresh leaves or what is the story? Also beings that most of the time it is hard to tell what type of mulch we get, what I mean is I know of no mulch that is guaranteed 100% a certain species, yet, how long and what effects on toxicity does composting have verses fresh chips? I.e., regarding then cherry and walnut and others with certain specific characteristics. I know we suggest for soil health (soil management) to wait at least a year for chips to compost before using as a mulch. — John A. Keslick Jr.—Tree Anatomist & Tree Biologist.- Sustainable Forest? Only with TREE BIOLOGY in mind. Organic Tree Treatment Web Site: http://www.pond.com/~treeman or http://www.ccil.org/~treeman/
Response:
I have a question. I was told that cherry, maybe the whole Prunus species, are toxic to horses. Does anyone know if this is just fresh chips, fresh twigs and or fresh leaves or what is the story? Also beings that most of the time it is hard to tell what type of mulch we get, what I mean is I know of no mulch that is guaranteed 100% a certain species, yet, how long and what effects on toxicity does composting have verses fresh chips? I.e., regarding then cherry and walnut and others with certain specific characteristics. I know we suggest for soil health (soil management) to wait at least a year for chips to compost before using as a mulch. Toxicity Also due to the increased use of toxic pesticides by injections, implants, the Wedge and systemics pertaining to trees and shrubs (over the last 22 years), I suggest before handling these fresh chips of these trees, (who knows which ones they are) that they at least be given a year to sit and break down in a pile. Too often children will come in contact with these when they are applied. I would use caution with all Bark Mulches because world wide studies have shown DDT has collected in the bark of trees worldwide and I assume they mean the outer bark. Here is a related topic I wrote for another issue: Here, as in all Medicine, the first principle must be: "FIRST OF ALL DO NO HARM!" This implies, of course, a thorough understanding of the healthy organism i.e. in this case, the tree biology. This, in turn, brings us to a second principle: "DON’T HURT THE TREE AND YOU WON’T HURT YOURSELF!" An unbelievable example is about a fellow who for twenty years engaged in the practice of drilling holes into trees and injecting pesticides and: fungicides. Well, he did not help the trees, but he developed such severe bone cancer that at the end of his life he could not visit his trees anymore. 99% of the injections are for money only. Once you begin to understand trees and the effect’s two or more chemicals mixed can have on human health than those with common sense do not pump chemicals in trees. Who can provide me with a claim from a synthetic chemical injection company that says it is SAFE? I hardly believe it because putting a safe claim on any synthetic pesticide is illegal. Can anyone give me the research on what happens when two or more chemicals are mixed inside the tree, i.e., when we chip the brush and the dust is inhaled? How about when we burn the wood in your next door neighbors’ fire place and we expose the chemicals to extreme heat, i.e., when it comes in your window and you and your hypersensitive children breathe the vapors? What happens when you have a tree like a walnut that will drip on people and cars? Show me the research. See it is the lack of proper research on your end that tells the tale. Nevertheless, resent studies show that when two or more pesticides are mixed together the effects can be as high as 100 times more harmful to the human body. Where does the tree store these chemicals? Why are people injecting trees with chemicals anyway? I have never injected a tree and I am very happy and in good health. Also could someone send me the data to show what effects’ injections have on the trees associates. An example is squirrel’s make their sun spots with green leaves. Now when the chemicals go to the leaves, what does your research say about this and the other associates? See, what we do to trees affects us and the associates. In this case I want to read the data under proper research because we affect associates in ways we are unaware of but accountable for. E.g., the kola bears and the tanning of the leaves of the tree they feed on. Oh yes, what if a tree is loaded with chemical pesticides and the chips when removed, go to an area where children come in contact, e.g., DAYCARE CENTER? The next time you see a child chewing on a pop sickle stick, ask your self "did that tree have chemical pesticides in it." More important is the question, "if so, was I responsible in some way?" How does season long systemic and injections effect protected wildlife like sap suckers? John A. Keslick Jr.—Tree Anatomist & Tree Biologist.- Sustainable Forest? Only with TREE BIOLOGY in mind. Organic Tree Treatment Web Site: http://www.pond.com/~treeman or http://www.ccil.org/~treeman/
Response:
AREN’T WE GETTING JUST A BIT CARRIED AWAY HERE ON REC.GARDENS, JOHN??? THE "REC" HERE TELLS YOU SOMETHING DOESN’T IT? 
Ignore him, he will eventually give up or get a life.
Wrong answer and I rest my case your honor. — John A. Keslick Jr.—Tree Anatomist & Tree Biologist.- Sustainable Forest? Only with TREE BIOLOGY in mind. Organic Tree Treatment Web Site: http://www.pond.com/~treeman or http://www.ccil.org/~treeman/
Response:
AREN’T WE GETTING JUST A BIT CARRIED AWAY HERE ON REC.GARDENS, JOHN??? THE "REC" HERE TELLS YOU SOMETHING DOESN’T IT?
Response:
AREN’T WE GETTING JUST A BIT CARRIED AWAY HERE ON REC.GARDENS, JOHN??? THE "REC" HERE TELLS YOU SOMETHING DOESN’T IT?
Ignore him, he will eventually give up or get a life.
Response:
AREN’T WE GETTING JUST A BIT CARRIED AWAY HERE ON REC.GARDENS, JOHN??? THE "REC" HERE TELLS YOU SOMETHING DOESN’T IT? Ignore him, he will eventually give up or get a life.
I would as you have done, watch what you say. Because legally you can not put a safe claim on a synthetic pesticide or can you put a safe claim on FRESH CHIPS that have come from trees injected and so forth. Be careful what you say. Because many people outhere love to take peoples money in court. — John A. Keslick Jr.—Tree Anatomist & Tree Biologist.- Sustainable Forest? Only with TREE BIOLOGY in mind. Organic Tree Treatment Web Site: http://www.pond.com/~treeman or http://www.ccil.org/~treeman/
Response:
I have a question. I was told that cherry, maybe the whole Prunus species, are toxic to horses. Does anyone know if this is just fresh chips, fresh twigs and or fresh leaves or what is the story? Also beings that most of the time it is hard to tell what type of mulch we get, what I mean is I know of no mulch that is guaranteed 100% a certain species, yet, how long and what effects on toxicity does composting have verses fresh chips? I.e., regarding then cherry and walnut and others with certain specific characteristics. I know we suggest for soil health (soil management) to wait at least a year for chips to compost before using as a mulch. Also due to the increased use of toxic pesticides by injections, implants, the Wedge and systemics pertaining to trees and shrubs (over the last 22 years), I suggest before handling these fresh chips of these trees, (who knows which ones they are) that they at least be given a year to sit and break down in a pile. Too often children will come in contact with these when they are applied. I would use caution with all Bark Mulches because world wide studies have shown DDT has collected in the bark of trees worldwide and I assume they mean the outer bark. Here is a related topic I wrote for another issue: Here, as in all Medicine, the first principle must be: "FIRST OF ALL DO NO HARM!" This implies, of course, a thorough understanding of the healthy organism i.e. in this case, the tree biology. This, in turn, brings us to a second principle: "DON’T HURT THE TREE AND YOU WON’T HURT YOURSELF!" An unbelievable example is about a fellow who for twenty years engaged in the practice of drilling holes into trees and injecting pesticides and: fungicides. Well, he did not help the trees, but he developed such severe bone cancer that at the end of his life he could not visit his trees anymore. 99% of the injections are for money only. Once you begin to understand trees and the effect’s two or more chemicals mixed can have on human health than those with common sense do not pump chemicals in trees. Who can provide me with a claim from a synthetic chemical injection company that says it is SAFE? I hardly believe it because putting a safe claim on any synthetic pesticide is illegal. Can anyone give me the research on what happens when two or more chemicals are mixed inside the tree, i.e., when we chip the brush and the dust is inhaled? How about when we burn the wood in your next door neighbors’ fire place and we expose the chemicals to extreme heat, i.e., when it comes in your window and you and your hypersensitive children breathe the vapors? What happens when you have a tree like a walnut that will drip on people and cars? Show me the research. See it is the lack of proper research on your end that tells the tale. Nevertheless, resent studies show that when two or more pesticides are mixed together the effects can be as high as 100 times more harmful to the human body. Where does the tree store these chemicals? Why are people injecting trees with chemicals anyway? I have never injected a tree and I am very happy and in good health. Also could someone send me the data to show what effects’ injections have on the trees associates. An example is squirrel’s make their sun spots with green leaves. Now when the chemicals go to the leaves, what does your research say about this and the other associates? See, what we do to trees affects us and the associates. In this case I want to read the data under proper research because we affect associates in ways we are unaware of but accountable for. E.g., the kola bears and the tanning of the leaves of the tree they feed on. Oh yes, what if a tree is loaded with chemical pesticides and the chips when removed, go to an area where children come in contact, e.g., DAYCARE CENTER? The next time you see a child chewing on a pop sickle stick, ask your self "did that tree have chemical pesticides in it." More important is the question, "if so, was I responsible in some way?" How does season long systemic and injections effect protected wildlife like sap suckers? — John A. Keslick Jr.—Tree Anatomist & Tree Biologist.- Sustainable Forest? Only with TREE BIOLOGY in mind. Organic Tree Treatment Web Site: http://www.pond.com/~treeman or http://www.ccil.org/~treeman/