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Eleonore Beaudoin’s post: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just so no one worries: the radioactive treatment that was supposed to eb > today, well… > I called yesterday t ask what was going on, i.e. why I had to go there on > two consecutive days. Was it an info session Tuesday andf the treatment on > wednesday??? > And I then realized what a goof was happenign again: > many many months ago (a year??) my gp tried and tried to have them pass a > scan of my thyrpoid. But all requests woudl be lost. We tried over and > over again, and we coudl only get an ultrasound, the scan woudl never make > it to the nuclear medical unit. > Well, thsi time, the request for the radioactive iodine treatment did NOT > make ti to them….And so what they had planned for today was….an iodine > injection, and then lettign me got for 24 hours before comign back the day > after for a thyroid scan!!!! NOT a radioactive treatment. > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH. > I will have seen everythign with that nbuhcn of complete, total, absolute > moronic system. > It’s notta so bad anyway, as after reading on the subject of radioactoive > iodine the night ebfore, I woudl ahve cancelled the treatment unless > additional info showed me otherwise warranted. > The effects are worse than the inital problem apparently, where by killing > the thyroid but also making you nukelar:), you end up with way worse > immune system probs. Cancer risk (of the throat and even ablated thyroid > that sometimesd remaisn in a bit of tissue) gets way higher then. > There is now ay by now that they coud gfind that request and do the > treatment before my medicard rebewal happens again Sept nine. > So might as well cocnentrate on a bad summer to come with Graves, and > buckle my belt, and hang in there and try and see how I can help myself > through that next one one more time. > Gawd…Let there be no dr in ehaven!! No one will be sick anyway and who > needs drs like that even when sick? Specially when sick! Pfft:) > Gotta get moving and hit the shower and find clean clothes somehow. Din do > the laundry this last weekend focussing on other stuff more urgent before > the treament that was supposed to be today…. > And btw, I elarned that I was right, that it takes a serious preperation > before the ablation, that my specialiost never even gave it a thought, and > that she is completely full of very hot smelly air. > No one will touch my thyroid unless I get answers to questions, a duely > required preperation and so on. > I was right too about the dnager when not prepared and the thyroid is not > lowered gfradually before the ablation: it can be deadly. > What they call "a thyroid storm". And I also learned that what I called > Graves peaking WERE Thyroid storms, where anythign bigger than that I > woudl die, no doubt in my mind. > They will NOT tocuh me without a serious preperation, and even then only > if questiosn are answered satifactorily. > Next specialist! > Late, gotta run! > Chloe > —

Sounds like a close call there. Also sounds like specialists aren’t very special. My cats are sending purry vibes back to you, Chloe. Emma

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"HumungousFungusAmongUs" (omega.po…@ntlworld.com) writes: > It did make me wonder, once you’d announced that the most significant > endocrine organ was going to be zapped by some doctors somewhere. I mean, it > only is supposed to control metabolic functions everywhere in the body or > whatever. I mean, even if it isn’t the most important one, from what I’ve > heard about it, it is quite a big deal. And some idiot has advised that it > be zapped by radiation? Even allowing that to be zapped by radiation might > give you cool powers to level major cities and so forth, I have to in this > instance call "Doctor who just wants to play golf and not really help anyone > ever". > I’ll shut up innit, but am glad that you saw through that doctor’s bullshit > line. Next question is, how to treat the thyroid gland, rather than nuke the > mf?

Well, forst, you get info. Then more and more and more info. Then you sort through, Then you decide that good air and good water sounds like a good thing, and that the lack of vitamin A usually showing with hair loss with Graves patient, when there is a lack, seems to be a definite one…You then make a note to take viatamin A a lot. Then you read that the excess calcoium in your blood tests no oen coudl ever explain woudl in fact be due to a lack of vitamin D. So you think "Vitamine A…Vitamine D". Then you read that magnesium, potassium, etc, are needed a lot by Graves people that have this and that symptom. You decided to eat raw potatoes and you tv set. Etc, etc. This way, if it ends up with the nuking your gland, at least you will catch enough stations to not go mad with boredom…. Oh yeah. You add to it broccoli a lot, and wonder hwo the heck you will drink coffee without sugar NOR aspertame. You note thatmany start thinking that maybe Graves woudl be due to mercury fillings. I had a ton of those that now were all replaced. I had guessed that one coudl be a abd thing and demanded each filling be replaced by a non poisonous substance. Therore the 5,000 and runnign dental bill the last two years. Then you read about how Graves poeple lack fat. Not only on their skeleton, but in their blood and all. Fish beign highly recommended for the oil in it. You rememebr feelign instantly wow after atign fish and your skin IMMEDIATELY showing better (sic: instantly!) and you add one plus one and think "I am gonna go a fishing!:)". Then you get curious about the T cells and the T4 and T3 and yadeeyada. You wanna know what they eat in winter. You wodner cuase some say to take copper which apparently misses in Graves poeple but you rememebr reading that copper was how the cell muted in the immune system with graves…. SAoemthing linked to it, And you also rememebr the many studies read decades ago about how copper shoudl never be added to a diet as too mnay water pipes that were made of copper still carry the water to your tap…But then you reaslize. You ahve nto drank tap water in ten years. Hm….Ya wonder a lot. You know you will still boil up this summer. So you count your pennies to get great air co. You think of making sure that you new car has airco (and a cd player:)). You learn that pesticides are linked to immune system probs, and you think you are real glad you never used any….and try to find who among your neighbors or friends or relatives ever used any to drown them in it:);-). You also realize reading that what rs are so scared of is Graves stroms, i.e. extremely high peaks, and reading the symptoms of the storms, you relaize that bah,m that si hat you have been living each day for the last eleven years. You din die from it, if it sure was hell, and it is getting milder in the storms too:). You know that come the time when the budget woudl allow you to eat normally and be less stressed and tightenign the belt and living a monk life:), you;d get better at the speed of light. You look back and think "IOn 11 years, I went through : their diagostic in 93 that they completely forgot to tell me about until 95. The waiting 2.5 years to see a specialist. The specialist giving you meds without adjusting them to your progress at all and risking to make you a complete vegetabl forever. Finding yourself hwo to manage to sleep, to take what to sleep after 11 straight months (honest to God!!) of never sleeping one second. Melatonine helped wonderfully, more than anythign they ever did (not do) for me, them drs:). But most of all, you look forward to your annual vacatiosn in two days:) Only one week, where oen weekend will be spent sleeping all odd hours, travelling by nigh late Friday to get back home, and being all blerg Sat and Sunday. Then Monday dentist, and elections. I look forward tp the dentist, say;-). Thenfinally a real day off tuesday…. By then feelign the week is half gone, and sighing loudly, yet tryign to see how to best enjoy it. And you laugh thinkign that years ago, you overcame leukemia, too mnay white cells. And that now, you got not enough of them….And ya think your body knows ecxactly what it si doing:). And instead of thinkign of your thyroid as a mf, you think "Way to go, Joe! Now if you could go easy on the heart beat and the brain swelling, and oh yeah, the rest fo the body swwelling, the hyperthermia, the photosensitivity, the muscular mass loss,the hair loss, the weight loss, the pain in the feet, and the dry skin, while adjusting the digestive system, puttign natural tears in my eyes, and ridding me of allergies, I;d kiss ya, thyroid!:) And ya know ya will make it, somehow:) Ya always did. I am sure that a greater Graves storm with the nuking the gland (when it releases all the thyroidine at once in the body as it desintegrates) woudl have killed me. I was worried about that, and now see I was darn right to, and that yep, it would happen to be much much wose that day or that week, and there is no way I can take that much when the regular already is a near constant storm. All in all, you "don’t know" yet how. But you know you will get there anyway. BTW, though of your mom. I thawed the turley leftovers in the freezer. Still in their juice, And I drank the juice hot. I feel like havign a real nice sleep right now, about an hour later….:) How she sleeping lately???? If she ahs turkey….Tell her to forget the meat unless she feels like it. But to keep the broth and drink that:). Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) C  >  > OTS >  > "Eleonore Beaudoin" <bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> news:cb94if$lmu$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… >> Just so no one worries: the radioactive treatment that was supposed to eb >> today, well… >> I called yesterday t ask what was going on, i.e. why I had to go there on >> two consecutive days. Was it an info session Tuesday andf the treatment on >> wednesday??? >> And I then realized what a goof was happenign again: >> many many months ago (a year??) my gp tried and tried to have them pass a >> scan of my thyrpoid. But all requests woudl be lost. We tried over and >> over again, and we coudl only get an ultrasound, the scan woudl never make >> it to the nuclear medical unit. >> Well, thsi time, the request for the radioactive iodine treatment did NOT >> make ti to them….And so what they had planned for today was….an iodine >> injection, and then lettign me got for 24 hours before comign back the day >> after for a thyroid scan!!!! NOT a radioactive treatment. >> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH. >> I will have seen everythign with that nbuhcn of complete, total, absolute >> moronic system. >> It’s notta so bad anyway, as after reading on the subject of radioactoive >> iodine the night ebfore, I woudl ahve cancelled the treatment unless >> additional info showed me otherwise warranted. >> The effects are worse than the inital problem apparently, where by killing >> the thyroid but also making you nukelar:), you end up with way worse >> immune system probs. Cancer risk (of the throat and even ablated thyroid >> that sometimesd remaisn in a bit of tissue) gets way higher then. >> There is now ay by now that they coud gfind that request and do the >> treatment before my medicard rebewal happens again Sept nine. >> So might as well cocnentrate on a bad summer to come with Graves, and >> buckle my belt, and hang in there and try and see how I can help myself >> through that next one one more time. >> Gawd…Let there be no dr in ehaven!! No one will be sick anyway and who >> needs drs like that even when sick? Specially when sick! Pfft:) >> Gotta get moving and hit the shower and find clean clothes somehow. Din do >> the laundry this last weekend focussing on other stuff more urgent before >> the treament that was supposed to be today…. >> And btw, I elarned that I was right, that it takes a serious preperation >> before the ablation, that my specialiost never even gave it a thought, and >> that she is completely full of very hot smelly air. >> No one will touch my thyroid unless I get answers to questions, a duely >> required preperation and so on. >> I was right too about the dnager when not prepared and the thyroid is not >> lowered gfradually before the ablation: it can be deadly. >> What they call "a thyroid storm". And I also learned that what I called >> Graves peaking WERE Thyroid storms, where anythign bigger than that I >> woudl die, no doubt in my mind. >> They will NOT tocuh me without a serious preperation, and even then only >> if questiosn are answered satifactorily. >> Next specialist! >> Late, gotta run! >> Chloe >> — > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 – Release Date: 18/06/2004

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Just so no one worries: the radioactive treatment that was supposed to eb today, well… I called yesterday t ask what was going on, i.e. why I had to go there on two consecutive days. Was it an info session Tuesday andf the treatment on wednesday??? And I then realized what a goof was happenign again: many many months ago (a year??) my gp tried and tried to have them pass a scan of my thyrpoid. But all requests woudl be lost. We tried over and over again, and we coudl only get an ultrasound, the scan woudl never make it to the nuclear medical unit. Well, thsi time, the request for the radioactive iodine treatment did NOT make ti to them….And so what they had planned for today was….an iodine injection, and then lettign me got for 24 hours before comign back the day after for a thyroid scan!!!! NOT a radioactive treatment. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH. I will have seen everythign with that nbuhcn of complete, total, absolute moronic system. It’s notta so bad anyway, as after reading on the subject of radioactoive iodine the night ebfore, I woudl ahve cancelled the treatment unless additional info showed me otherwise warranted. The effects are worse than the inital problem apparently, where by killing the thyroid but also making you nukelar:), you end up with way worse immune system probs. Cancer risk (of the throat and even ablated thyroid that sometimesd remaisn in a bit of tissue) gets way higher then. There is now ay by now that they coud gfind that request and do the treatment before my medicard rebewal happens again Sept nine. So might as well cocnentrate on a bad summer to come with Graves, and buckle my belt, and hang in there and try and see how I can help myself through that next one one more time. Gawd…Let there be no dr in ehaven!! No one will be sick anyway and who needs drs like that even when sick? Specially when sick! Pfft:) Gotta get moving and hit the shower and find clean clothes somehow. Din do the laundry this last weekend focussing on other stuff more urgent before the treament that was supposed to be today…. And btw, I elarned that I was right, that it takes a serious preperation before the ablation, that my specialiost never even gave it a thought, and that she is completely full of very hot smelly air. No one will touch my thyroid unless I get answers to questions, a duely required preperation and so on. I was right too about the dnager when not prepared and the thyroid is not lowered gfradually before the ablation: it can be deadly. What they call "a thyroid storm". And I also learned that what I called Graves peaking WERE Thyroid storms, where anythign bigger than that I woudl die, no doubt in my mind. They will NOT tocuh me without a serious preperation, and even then only if questiosn are answered satifactorily. Next specialist! Late, gotta run! Chloe —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sklenge (skle…@yahoo.co.uk) writes: > Eleonore Beaudoin’s post: >> Just so no one worries: the radioactive treatment that was supposed to eb >> today, well… >> I called yesterday t ask what was going on, i.e. why I had to go there on >> two consecutive days. Was it an info session Tuesday andf the treatment on >> wednesday??? >> And I then realized what a goof was happenign again: >> many many months ago (a year??) my gp tried and tried to have them pass a >> scan of my thyrpoid. But all requests woudl be lost. We tried over and >> over again, and we coudl only get an ultrasound, the scan woudl never make >> it to the nuclear medical unit. >> Well, thsi time, the request for the radioactive iodine treatment did NOT >> make ti to them….And so what they had planned for today was….an iodine >> injection, and then lettign me got for 24 hours before comign back the day >> after for a thyroid scan!!!! NOT a radioactive treatment. >> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH. >> I will have seen everythign with that nbuhcn of complete, total, absolute >> moronic system. >> It’s notta so bad anyway, as after reading on the subject of radioactoive >> iodine the night ebfore, I woudl ahve cancelled the treatment unless >> additional info showed me otherwise warranted. >> The effects are worse than the inital problem apparently, where by killing >> the thyroid but also making you nukelar:), you end up with way worse >> immune system probs. Cancer risk (of the throat and even ablated thyroid >> that sometimesd remaisn in a bit of tissue) gets way higher then. >> There is now ay by now that they coud gfind that request and do the >> treatment before my medicard rebewal happens again Sept nine. >> So might as well cocnentrate on a bad summer to come with Graves, and >> buckle my belt, and hang in there and try and see how I can help myself >> through that next one one more time. >> Gawd…Let there be no dr in ehaven!! No one will be sick anyway and who >> needs drs like that even when sick? Specially when sick! Pfft:) >> Gotta get moving and hit the shower and find clean clothes somehow. Din do >> the laundry this last weekend focussing on other stuff more urgent before >> the treament that was supposed to be today…. >> And btw, I elarned that I was right, that it takes a serious preperation >> before the ablation, that my specialiost never even gave it a thought, and >> that she is completely full of very hot smelly air. >> No one will touch my thyroid unless I get answers to questions, a duely >> required preperation and so on. >> I was right too about the dnager when not prepared and the thyroid is not >> lowered gfradually before the ablation: it can be deadly. >> What they call "a thyroid storm". And I also learned that what I called >> Graves peaking WERE Thyroid storms, where anythign bigger than that I >> woudl die, no doubt in my mind. >> They will NOT tocuh me without a serious preperation, and even then only >> if questiosn are answered satifactorily. >> Next specialist! >> Late, gotta run! >> Chloe >> — > Sounds like a close call there. Also sounds like specialists aren’t very > special. My cats are sending purry vibes back to you, Chloe.

Ah. Just sensed the one with the narrower face. Din know you had more than one:) As for drs…Specialists only wanna be specialists cause they were not special in the first place, of course:) Why else would they ever wanna be specialists? Just to find a way to hang around special poeple, I reckon:)! C  > > Emma

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It did make me wonder, once you’d announced that the most significant endocrine organ was going to be zapped by some doctors somewhere. I mean, it only is supposed to control metabolic functions everywhere in the body or whatever. I mean, even if it isn’t the most important one, from what I’ve heard about it, it is quite a big deal. And some idiot has advised that it be zapped by radiation? Even allowing that to be zapped by radiation might give you cool powers to level major cities and so forth, I have to in this instance call "Doctor who just wants to play golf and not really help anyone ever". I’ll shut up innit, but am glad that you saw through that doctor’s bullshit line. Next question is, how to treat the thyroid gland, rather than nuke the mf? OTS "Eleonore Beaudoin" <bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message

news:cb94if$lmu$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just so no one worries: the radioactive treatment that was supposed to eb > today, well… > I called yesterday t ask what was going on, i.e. why I had to go there on > two consecutive days. Was it an info session Tuesday andf the treatment on > wednesday??? > And I then realized what a goof was happenign again: > many many months ago (a year??) my gp tried and tried to have them pass a > scan of my thyrpoid. But all requests woudl be lost. We tried over and > over again, and we coudl only get an ultrasound, the scan woudl never make > it to the nuclear medical unit. > Well, thsi time, the request for the radioactive iodine treatment did NOT > make ti to them….And so what they had planned for today was….an iodine > injection, and then lettign me got for 24 hours before comign back the day > after for a thyroid scan!!!! NOT a radioactive treatment. > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH. > I will have seen everythign with that nbuhcn of complete, total, absolute > moronic system. > It’s notta so bad anyway, as after reading on the subject of radioactoive > iodine the night ebfore, I woudl ahve cancelled the treatment unless > additional info showed me otherwise warranted. > The effects are worse than the inital problem apparently, where by killing > the thyroid but also making you nukelar:), you end up with way worse > immune system probs. Cancer risk (of the throat and even ablated thyroid > that sometimesd remaisn in a bit of tissue) gets way higher then. > There is now ay by now that they coud gfind that request and do the > treatment before my medicard rebewal happens again Sept nine. > So might as well cocnentrate on a bad summer to come with Graves, and > buckle my belt, and hang in there and try and see how I can help myself > through that next one one more time. > Gawd…Let there be no dr in ehaven!! No one will be sick anyway and who > needs drs like that even when sick? Specially when sick! Pfft:) > Gotta get moving and hit the shower and find clean clothes somehow. Din do > the laundry this last weekend focussing on other stuff more urgent before > the treament that was supposed to be today…. > And btw, I elarned that I was right, that it takes a serious preperation > before the ablation, that my specialiost never even gave it a thought, and > that she is completely full of very hot smelly air. > No one will touch my thyroid unless I get answers to questions, a duely > required preperation and so on. > I was right too about the dnager when not prepared and the thyroid is not > lowered gfradually before the ablation: it can be deadly. > What they call "a thyroid storm". And I also learned that what I called > Graves peaking WERE Thyroid storms, where anythign bigger than that I > woudl die, no doubt in my mind. > They will NOT tocuh me without a serious preperation, and even then only > if questiosn are answered satifactorily. > Next specialist! > Late, gotta run! > Chloe > —

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