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HIV Causes AIDS: And Knowing It Could SAVE Your Life http://www.sfaf.org/aboutsfaf/outreach/index.html?june00/hiv_causes_a… http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/evidhiv.htm http://www.avert.org/evidence.htm http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/faq/faq2.htm

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"The dominant opinion which prevails throughout the world" is that HIV causes AIDS". Nelson Mandela "HIV cause AIDS, I am Positively Positive" Bradford McIntyre

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<<HIV Infections ARE RISING Why are you shouting by using all caps? Where’s your proof? <<Many people still have the belief that HIV and AIDS only affects homosexuals! However, 75% of the world population infected with HIV is heterosexual. In the West, this ‘HIV/AIDS’ remains confined primarily to the original socalled ‘risk groups’ and the largest single socalled ‘risk group’ are MSM or Men who have Sex with Men. That doesn’t mean it’s a gay disease, because that’s now how the infectious model works. These bugs aren’t that smart; they’re not like smart bombs, causing different symptoms based on gender, race or sexual orientation. It means that MSM are selectively biased under the PPV[Positive Predictive Value] formulary, disproportionately tested and therefore disproportionately coming up ‘HIV’ antibody responsive– whatever that non-specific marker means. <<The United Nations predicts &#8220;AIDS will cut population by 300 million; 300 million fewer people in the world by the year 2050 from the impact of AIDS.&#8221; Another prediction among many that have not come true. Many countries that are alleged to be ravaged by ‘HIV/AIDS’ have increased in population, including South Africa over the last four years according to a just released census. <<The United Nations is predicting the biggest rises in AIDS deaths to be in China (estimated 40 million) and India (estimated 47 million). The population of sub-Saharan Africa will be 19% lower. Another prediction among many that have not come true. <<In the United States, there are 980,000 people living with HIV/AIDS and 45,000 newly infected. This has remained the official estimate, give or take a few. They’ve been estimating about 40,000 new infections for quite a few years. How is this on the rise? What were the figures for the previous five or ten years, can you find those stats? Good luck trying to figure out the CDC’s creative math or epidemio-illogical numbers game. <<In Canada, 65,000 people are infected with HIV. The rates of infection among our aboriginal population in Canada are reported to rival the worst hit areas of Africa! HIV infection among aboriginal people is twice the rate of infection in non-aboriginal people. Canada has a very low rate, even according to official estimates, so I’m not surprised if Aboriginal people are more subject to testing at the free clinics because of poverty. Again, there is no HIV and no test to measure ‘HIV infection’ so the fact that they are more likely to have non-descript antibodies circulating in their blood, as do African Americans, this may also be a genetic reason. Who knows, but YOUR CONCLUSION and that of AIDS Apologists IS NOT THE INESCAPABLE ONE. <<People believe HIV infection will never happen to them and many still associate HIV/AIDS with gay people. Yet men, women and children of every race and religious or spiritual belief are being infected with HIV every day, all over the world! What is called ‘HIV/AIDS’ in the developing world, primarily Africa, is defined differently than in the developed world, including America and Europe. The ‘HIV’ test is often not required for the WHO’s Bangui definition of ‘AIDS’ or if it is, it is only the Elisa, no WB. If ‘HIV/AIDS’ were in fulfillment of Koch’s Postulates for the infectious model of disease, then it would have spread out of the original socalled ‘risk groups’ in the developed world. And this has never occured in epidemic numbers despite the reported rhetoric. Epidemics spread outside the original risk groups and they spread exponentially. Many other common diseases outstrip ‘HIV/AIDS’ when you look at actual numbers and not estimates. <<For years, the gay community successfully promoted and practiced safe sex practices, which reduced the number of infections dramatically over a period of ten years. With antiretroviral therapies and fewer deaths associated with these treatments, many gay people have discontinued safe sex practices. HIV infection is not disclosed to partners and anal sex without a condom is increasing at alarming rates. So now HIV infection is on the rise again amongst gay people. This is the AIDS Industry and AIDS Apologist explanation, though there is no evidence for this conclusion. There are other reasons why gay men are rebelling against the socalled ’safe-sex’ puritan panic and it isn’t only because of HIV denial. A growing number of gay men that I speak with are informed in their AIDS dissent. <<Also, the heterosexual community is not practicing safe sex, which is evident in the statistics of HIV infection amongst heterosexuals worldwide. Seventy five percent of the world population infected with HIV is heterosexual. Fifty percent of all HIV infections are in women. Women are tested more routinely and often forced to be tested in perinatal clinics, and pregnancy is one of the 60+ documented cross-reactors to the socalled "HIV specific" proteins on the socalled "HIV test." This is one of the methodologies the AIDS Industry Apologists come up with their estimates since the test is not readily available in Africa. <<There has been insufficient time or attention given to the dispersal of proper information through the media regarding HIV and AIDS and HIV prevention. That is a bold-faced fabrication and you know it! More attention has been paid to ‘HIV/AIDS’ than almost any other health issue in the course of human history. More dollars, too. Even school children can recite the basic facts alleged by the AIDS Industry Apologists. It’s all over the media and in movies. <<Studies show that anal sex is common throughout the world and in some countries 60% of adults practice anal sex. Women in the United States are reported to be seven times more likely to engage in unprotected anal sex, than men having sex with men. Condom usage is lower for heterosexual anal sex compared to vaginal sex. Many men who have sex with men do not define themselves as gay. And your point is? I agree anal sex is not a health risk. <<More and more women are being infected with HIV through sexual intercourse with their male partner, unaware their partner is bisexual! In heterosexual relationships, infidelity is also responsible for increases in HIV infection among women. Another infectious myth-conception. It’s pure regurgitation of the AIDS Apologist line of illogic to justify their flawed and failed model or theory. Oh, I know you believe you are reciting the gospel truth, but what you are stating is unproven and based on a number of assumptions. <<The proportion of adults living with HIV/AIDS who are women has been steadily increasing.. AIDS now ranks as one of the leading causes of death among women aged 20 to 40 in several cities in Europe, sub-Saharan Africa and North America. More women getting tested and some forced to take the highly toxic and experimental ‘AIDS’ drug cocktails or, due to poverty and malnutrition and lack of clean water and proper sanitation and basic medical care are labeled as having ‘HIV/AIDS’ for funding purposes. <<The number of people who beleive they are HIV positive but who have not been tested is substancial. Many are not practicing safe sex. Yes, but why? The reasons you give are not the only possible options. And what is your idea of socalled ’safe-sex?’ <<Many AIDS dissidents are not practicing safe sex because they do not beleive HIV exists and/or causes AIDS and they too are responsible for increased numbers of infections. Where is the evidence for this? Let’s start with the concept of ‘HIV infection.’ AIDS DISSIDENT SCIENTIFIC SUMMARY ANALYSIS