Talk Cancer

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Second time this product has been brought up, any comments from subcribers of this group Also I am from the UK, & they don’t seen to supply to here. ray

Then the UK is very fortunate It’s expensive nonsense

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I wonder if I could open a clinic and give them intravenously? MIKE

The difficult thing, Mike, if I understand Mariianne Faithful’s story, is

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I wonder if I could open a clinic and give them intravenously? MIKE The difficult thing, Mike, if I understand Mariianne Faithful’s story, is

My god, is that story still remembered, that must be all of 30-35 yrs ago  :-) Ray – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wonder if I could open a clinic and give them intravenously? MIKE The difficult thing, Mike, if I understand Mariianne Faithful’s story, is My god, is that story still remembered, that must be all of 30-35 yrs ago  :-) Ray What story??

MIKE

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MARS BARS have a similar effect on cancer only they taste much better, have better quality control and the sugar and chocolate have anti-depressant effects which has a knock on bonus of boosting the immune system. There is also the added intake of calories which helps maintain body weight and provides energy to assist the body’s natural defences against malignant invasion and to rebuild tissue damaged by chemo and radiotherapy. Why nobody has discovered this new wonder treatment before I don’t know. I’ve been eating them on a casual basis for 45 years or so and have remained cancer free!….touch wood. MIKE

Well, if I’ve gotta choose between the chocolate cure and the scrambled egg cure, I’ll take the chocolate, everytime . Michele

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I wonder if I could open a clinic and give them intravenously? MIKE

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – MARS BARS have a similar effect on cancer only they taste much better, have better quality control and the sugar and chocolate have anti-depressant effects which has a knock on bonus of boosting the immune system. There is also the added intake of calories which helps maintain body weight and provides energy to assist the body’s natural defences against malignant invasion and to rebuild tissue damaged by chemo and radiotherapy. Why nobody has discovered this new wonder treatment before I don’t know. I’ve been eating them on a casual basis for 45 years or so and have remained cancer free!….touch wood. MIKE Well, if I’ve gotta choose between the chocolate cure and the scrambled egg cure, I’ll take the chocolate, everytime . Michele

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (speedster) asked about Noni Juice: Second time this product has been brought up, any comments from subcribers of this group It’s snake oil: http://www.hcrc.org/contrib/novella/noni.html http://www.hcrc.org/contrib/novella/noni.html Also I am from the UK, & they don’t seen to supply to here. It would be a waste of your money, Ray. Michele

Yes, that link you gave lays it out clear enough. Thanks Ray

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MARS BARS have a similar effect on cancer only they taste much better, have better quality control and the sugar and chocolate have anti-depressant effects which has a knock on bonus of boosting the immune system. There is also the added intake of calories which helps maintain body weight and provides energy to assist the body’s natural defences against malignant invasion and to rebuild tissue damaged by chemo and radiotherapy. Why nobody has discovered this new wonder treatment before I don’t know. I’ve been eating them on a casual basis for 45 years or so and have remained cancer free!….touch wood. MIKE

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (speedster) asked about Noni Juice: Second time this product has been brought up, any comments from subcribers of this group It’s snake oil: http://www.hcrc.org/contrib/novella/noni.html http://www.hcrc.org/contrib/novella/noni.html Also I am from the UK, & they don’t seen to supply to here. It would be a waste of your money, Ray. Michele Yes, that link you gave lays it out clear enough. Thanks Ray

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – By  Neil Solomon MD PhD Cancer … I believe noni’s effect on Cancer most likely deals with the fact that both noni and Cancer work on a cellular level. It is further believed that noni enhances cellular structure while Cancer, of course, destroys it. One of noni’s key components, proxeronine, is sent to "sick" cells within the body by the Golgi apparatus and reticuloendothelium. I believe that these sick cells attract proxeronine and an enzyme, proxeroninease. The interaction creates xeronine, a cellular enhancer. … Several other studies have been performed in laboratories in order to validate Morinda Citrifolia’s Cancer-fighting abilities. In one such study, four Japanese scientists injected ras cells (cells that are precursors to many malignant growths) with a substance called damnacanthal found in Morinda Citrifolia. They observed that the injection significantly inhibited the ras cells from reproducing. Proxeronine and damnacanthal are substances within Morinda Citrifolia that are believed to be anti-cancer agents. In addition, research has revealed that noni helps stimulate the body’s production of other Cancer-fighting elements such as nitric oxide, interleukins, interferon, tumor necrosis factor, lipopolysaccharides, and natural killer cells. … It is believed by some that Morinda Citrifolia might exert a preventive and protective action against Cancer during the initiation stage, which is the first phase of the formation of Cancer. A study performed by Mian-Ying Wang, M.D., at the University of Illinois College of Medicine at Rockford showed that mice who were given a solution of 10 percent noni juice for a week and then injected with DMBA, a known Cancer-causing agent, had significantly lower DNA adduct markers (a test for abnormal DNA) than DMBA-injected mice fed only water. The lower the number of DNA adduct markers, the more protection one has against fighting Cancer. The noni-fed mice had 50 percent fewer DNA markers in the lungs than the water-fed mice without Tahitian Noni Juice, 60 percent fewer markers in the heart, 70 percent fewer in the liver, and 90 percent fewer in the kidneys. Therefore, Tahitian Noni Juice gave the greatest protection from Cancer to the kidneys (90 percent) and the least protection to the lungs (50 percent). … Out of the 15,000 noni users in my survey, 1,419 suffered from some type of Cancer. From this number, 69 percent of them reported positive health benefits after taking Tahitian Noni Juice. … Also in my research, I came across a " noni recipe " that has been used by Cancer patients who want to give their bodies an extreme boost. The "recipe" comes from a medical professional, Orlando Pile, M.D. It is as follows: … One thing that I learned from people who reported that their Cancer symptoms were helped by drinking noni, was that the best amount for them was [simply] the amount which helped them the most. Many people with very difficult problems were helped when they figured out the total amount of noni juice that helped each day, and then they drank it in divided amounts, hourly. Some did best by drinking one-half ounce of noni juice each hour while awake. Others did well by drinking one ounce an hour: and some preferred drinking two ounces or more per hour. Drinking hourly amounts of noni was reported to have given relief not only to many people with Cancer symptoms, but people suffering from other conditions reported that the hourly method helped as well. For info on noni juice go to, http://www.tahitiannoni.com/mcgaw

Second time this product has been brought up, any comments from subcribers of this group Also I am from the UK, & they don’t seen to supply to here. ray

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(speedster) asked about Noni Juice: Second time this product has been brought up, any comments from subcribers of this group

It’s snake oil: http://www.hcrc.org/contrib/novella/noni.html http://www.hcrc.org/contrib/novella/noni.html Also I am from the UK, & they don’t seen to supply to here.

It would be a waste of your money, Ray. Michele

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By  Neil Solomon MD PhD Cancer … I believe noni’s effect on Cancer most likely deals with the fact that both noni and Cancer work on a cellular level. It is further believed that noni enhances cellular structure while Cancer, of course, destroys it. One of noni’s key components, proxeronine, is sent to "sick" cells within the body by the Golgi apparatus and reticuloendothelium. I believe that these sick cells attract proxeronine and an enzyme, proxeroninease. The interaction creates xeronine, a cellular enhancer. … Several other studies have been performed in laboratories in order to validate Morinda Citrifolia’s Cancer-fighting abilities. In one such study, four Japanese scientists injected ras cells (cells that are precursors to many malignant growths) with a substance called damnacanthal found in Morinda Citrifolia. They observed that the injection significantly inhibited the ras cells from reproducing. Proxeronine and damnacanthal are substances within Morinda Citrifolia that are believed to be anti-cancer agents. In addition, research has revealed that noni helps stimulate the body’s production of other Cancer-fighting elements such as nitric oxide, interleukins, interferon, tumor necrosis factor, lipopolysaccharides, and natural killer cells. … It is believed by some that Morinda Citrifolia might exert a preventive and protective action against Cancer during the initiation stage, which is the first phase of the formation of Cancer. A study performed by Mian-Ying Wang, M.D., at the University of Illinois College of Medicine at Rockford showed that mice who were given a solution of 10 percent noni juice for a week and then injected with DMBA, a known Cancer-causing agent, had significantly lower DNA adduct markers (a test for abnormal DNA) than DMBA-injected mice fed only water. The lower the number of DNA adduct markers, the more protection one has against fighting Cancer. The noni-fed mice had 50 percent fewer DNA markers in the lungs than the water-fed mice without Tahitian Noni Juice, 60 percent fewer markers in the heart, 70 percent fewer in the liver, and 90 percent fewer in the kidneys. Therefore, Tahitian Noni Juice gave the greatest protection from Cancer to the kidneys (90 percent) and the least protection to the lungs (50 percent). … Out of the 15,000 noni users in my survey, 1,419 suffered from some type of Cancer. From this number, 69 percent of them reported positive health benefits after taking Tahitian Noni Juice. … Also in my research, I came across a " noni recipe " that has been used by Cancer patients who want to give their bodies an extreme boost. The "recipe" comes from a medical professional, Orlando Pile, M.D. It is as follows: … One thing that I learned from people who reported that their Cancer symptoms were helped by drinking noni, was that the best amount for them was [simply] the amount which helped them the most. Many people with very difficult problems were helped when they figured out the total amount of noni juice that helped each day, and then they drank it in divided amounts, hourly. Some did best by drinking one-half ounce of noni juice each hour while awake. Others did well by drinking one ounce an hour: and some preferred drinking two ounces or more per hour. Drinking hourly amounts of noni was reported to have given relief not only to many people with Cancer symptoms, but people suffering from other conditions reported that the hourly method helped as well. For info on noni juice go to, http://www.tahitiannoni.com/mcgaw

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