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Just wondering, how do the druggies know which plants would be worth harvesting and which plants are rope if they all look alike?                    Bill

It would be a moot point if they legalized and standardized it.  Potheads, for the most part, don’t steal to get pot.

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In regards to Dan’s reply below: It would be futile for the druggies to try to grow their illicit plants hidden amongst industrial hemp plants. Oh their plants would grow great, but the THC (psychoactive) component of the dopers’ plants would drop so far in the presence of hemp as to make their precious plants just more hemp. The reason for this is that dope growers are only interested in female cannabis plants – the ones that produce buds. When female cannabis are grown in the complete absence of any fertilization from pollen of the the flower producing males, their internal chemical factories go nuts producing TCH. A field of hemp plants would be a wirlwind of male hemp pollen knocking up the females & ruining their drug potential. If the ‘hidden illicit marijuana’ theory is really being used out there to try to thwart legit industrial hemp growing, then the hemp industry needs more pothead spokespeople to properly inform the public that this concern is just more drug paranoia disinformation. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just last week the Kentucky legislature seriously discussed passing new laws to allow farmers to grow industrial hemp. The tobacco industry is slowly dying PUN IS intended!! Tobacco farmers in Kentucky and many other states are slowly going broke as the market dries up. Hemp has been touted as a viable replacement cash crop for them. The main problem is that industrial hemp looks just like real marijuana even though it doesn’t have the mind altering drugs in it. The cops can’t tell one from the other by looking. It takes lab tests. Thus the druggies will undoubtedly hide their marijuana plants in the middle of hemp fields instead of corn fields and it will become virtually impossible to detect from the air as it is now. So not only does the cotton industry and the chemical companies fight it, the cops fight it too. Peace! Dan D. Before you buy.

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Time to make pot legal.  And no, I don’t smoke it.  I have grown it for people with AIDS who cannot keep food down, and cannot eat due to no desire.  If alcohol is legal, and if alcohol kills many, many thousands of people each year from car accidents, liver disease, murder by irrational drunks, etc…then they can legalize pot, which as far as I know has never killed anyone. victoria Tobacco should be illegal!  And I used to smoke 3 packs a day, quit 2 years ago. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just last week the Kentucky legislature seriously discussed passing new laws to allow farmers to grow industrial hemp. The tobacco industry is slowly dying PUN IS intended!! Tobacco farmers in Kentucky and many other states are slowly going broke as the market dries up. Hemp has been touted as a viable replacement cash crop for them. The main problem is that industrial hemp looks just like real marijuana even though it doesn’t have the mind altering drugs in it. The cops can’t tell one from the other by looking.  It takes lab tests. Thus the druggies will undoubtedly hide their marijuana plants in the middle of hemp fields instead of corn fields and it will become virtually impossible to detect from the air as it is now. So not only does the cotton industry and the chemical companies fight it, the cops fight it too. Peace! Dan D. Before you buy.

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Of course not. The are too stoned from smoking it. Hemp is a type of fiber gotten from several different plant species besides Cannabis sativa but they are not controversial or illegal.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It has virtually no canabinioids.  Hemp is not marijuana.  People don’t realize that. Hemp products are available in Canada as well as the states.  I know the people who farm it are very strictly regulated, even though the plants carries very little of the stuff that makes it "mind altering". Jacqui I just got my worm’s way catalog.  One of the product offered was hemp twine.  When did this happen?  Did we get someone in DC with common sense?  Does this mean I can start looking for hemp area rugs? Zzhan

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Of course not. The are too stoned from smoking it. Hemp is a type of fiber gotten from several different plant species besides Cannabis sativa but they are not controversial or illegal.

hemp is the fibers from cannabis indicus, which has virtually no canabinoids. hemp was legal until the 40s. it still grows wild in many parts of the US, but woe to you if it’s on your property…  industrial hemp is only still illegal due to silly people who listen to drug propaganda put out by the cotton & chemical industries. as i’ve said before, i would like to put my fallow pasture to use growing industrial hemp as a cash crop & since i am violently allergic to marijuana, i’m pretty obviously not someone out trying to grow legal pot.  hemp, as a fiber, is stronger, longer wearing & softer than cotton. it uses much less chemicals in it’s production, requires less water & would make a really good crop for rocky New England now that the dairy industry has collapsed…  but king cotton & the chemical industy have stronger lobbies & great scare tactics. lee

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hey Zhan, send me their catalog address, hemp twine is absolutely wonderful.  You do realize you just made a totally contradictory statement there, didn’t you..???  someone in DC with common sense? naaaaaaaaaaa  never happen.  I would LOVE an area rug made with hemp twine..it would last forever, and in case of house fire, we could just wonder, as I see those rather neat bracelets made of hemp if the company that makes them has a rug they make as well.  Either that or we could buy enough twine and take rug hooking and dying lessions at the local market for them?  Hemp is one helluva good fibre.  madgardener now thinking of all sorta neat ideas.  (I mean, I bought a jumper made with wood fibre’s and it’s so soft I adore it, why can’t we purchase hemp clothing made with those fibres?) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got my worm’s way catalog.  One of the product offered was hemp twine.  When did this happen?  Did we get someone in DC with common sense?  Does this mean I can start looking for hemp area rugs? Zzhan

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Tobacco should be illegal!  And I used to smoke 3 packs a day, quit 2

years ago. KewL!!!! That makes you a DOF. Double old fogie. Anyone with a year under their quit belt is an old fogie over at alt.support.stop-smoking  NG. I’m an OF as of last December. Peace! Dan D.  Louisville KY Before you buy.

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Hemp is a type of fiber gotten from several different plant species besides Cannabis sativa but they are not controversial or illegal.

Oh yes they are illegal.  That’s why there’s a movement in this country to legalize the growing of *all* hemp besides the smokin’ kind. William Randolph Herst made sure hemp was made illegal to protect his newspaper industry. — Ann, Gardening in Zone 6a Just south of Boston, MA http://www.annzoid.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just last week the Kentucky legislature seriously discussed passing new laws to allow farmers to grow industrial hemp. The tobacco industry is slowly dying PUN IS intended!! Tobacco farmers in Kentucky and many other states are slowly going broke as the market dries up. Hemp has been touted as a viable replacement cash crop for them. The main problem is that industrial hemp looks just like real marijuana even though it doesn’t have the mind altering drugs in it. The cops can’t tell one from the other by looking.  It takes lab tests. Thus the druggies will undoubtedly hide their marijuana plants in the middle of hemp fields instead of corn fields and it will become virtually impossible to detect from the air as it is now. So not only does the cotton industry and the chemical companies fight it, the cops fight it too. Peace! Dan D. Before you buy.

Just wondering, how do the druggies know which plants would be worth harvesting and which plants are rope if they all look alike?                         Bill

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My Uncle Ralph who was a corn farmer in Missouri for decades used to grow hemp in between his corn plants to stablize the soil from erosion.  It would also confuse insects.  He had 1,700 acres of the stuff!  It was not pot.  Believe me, my father tried to smoke it.  What can I tell ya, it was the 60s. Victoria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ya wanna see some hemp? Take a drive along I-80 in Nebraska/Iowa or I- 90 in southern Minnesota towards the end of August. You will see growing in clumps along the sides of the interstate thousands upon thousands, perhaps millions of 8 foot hemp plants with 3 inch thick and long as yer arm pungent buds on ‘em. It looks and smells exactly like pot (cuz it is) but has absolutley no drug (THC) value whatsoever. You could smoke a pound and all you’d feel would be a headache. Why doesn’t someone do something about this social atrocity? Because anyone with half a brain could give a hoot about these weeds. I have been told that area of the midwest was the heartland of hemp production during WWI & WWII, providing rope & other war needs. Supposedly, most of these plants now are residual of that era. Every once in a while in that part of the country you’ll read newspaper reports or see on the news about how the in-need-of-reelection county sheriff or even the in-the-need-of- something-anything-to-do Army reserves get their pictures taken cutting these weeds down claiming it to be illegally cultivated pot. A few years ago a southern Minnesota paper showed photos of Army reservists with camoflage painted faces dropping out of helicopters into these weed (emphasis on WEED that is) patches to burn it down, claiming "doing their part in the war on drugs". They talked about special tactics to look out for ‘possible’ boobey traps set by the ‘pot growers’. Unforunately, most of the ignorant public just bought it up. And the evil cultivator was just Ma Nature. Very, very gullible we are. Of course not. The are too stoned from smoking it. Hemp is a type of fiber gotten from several different plant species besides Cannabis sativa but they are not controversial or illegal. hemp is the fibers from cannabis indicus, which has virtually no canabinoids. hemp was legal until the 40s. it still grows wild in many parts of the US, but woe to you if it’s on your property… industrial hemp is only still illegal due to silly people who listen to drug propaganda put out by the cotton & chemical industries. as i’ve said before, i would like to put my fallow pasture to use growing industrial hemp as a cash crop & since i am violently allergic to marijuana, i’m pretty obviously not someone out trying to grow legal pot. hemp, as a fiber, is stronger, longer wearing & softer than cotton. it uses much less chemicals in it’s production, requires less water & would make a really good crop for rocky New England now that the dairy industry has collapsed… but king cotton & the chemical industy have stronger lobbies & great scare tactics. lee

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Just wondering, how do the druggies know which plants would be worth harvesting and which plants are rope if they all look alike?

 Bill What, are you looking for directions?!?! I have done NO research on this.  My only source is simple local news casts but…… how hard could it be? Think about it.   4th row 20th plant through 25th plant is the "good stuff"   etc etc.  A simple map ought to do it. IF you’re a druggie that is. Personally, I hate to see the farmers get the squeeze. The small family farm is in a bad way in this country. There’s something wrong when most of us can run out to the grocery store and easily and cheaply fill our belly while some of the folks who GREW what we are eating are on food stamps. The current trend in tobacco production is just another hole in the fence that’s keeping the little guys in business. I hate to see anything that makes it easier for the druggies and harder on the cops. I hate to see cancer patients kept from what could be a very low cost drug that many say would help them. All that and I STILL think we live in the greatest country in the world. Life is SO complicated! Peace! Dan D.  Louisville KY  good ole’ USA Before you buy.

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lets not forget the paper industry.  Ingrid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got my worm’s way catalog.  One of the product offered was hemp twine.  When did this happen?  Did we get someone in DC with common sense?  Does this mean I can start looking for hemp area rugs? it’s all imports. it appears that NH might be allowing test farming of industrial hemp… it’s something i’ll be checking into because i have a few acres that could be put to use for that. (i’m violently allergic to pot so i shouldn’t have trouble getting permits<g). so, yes, you may be able to find hemp area rugs. you can find hemp clothing without too much trouble,also. industrial hemp is still being strongly lobbied against by the cotton growers & the chemical companies because it will cut into thier profits big time. hemp is sturdier than cotton & doesn’t need the herbicides & pesticides that cotton does (plus it has higher yield per acre). lee <wondering why flax isn’t as popular

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I agree, and pot .. even smelling it when somebody else is smoking it, makes me very naseous.  Ingrid Time to make pot legal.  And no, I don’t smoke it.  I have grown it for people with AIDS who cannot keep food down, and cannot eat due to no desire.  If alcohol is legal, and if alcohol kills many, many thousands of people each year from car accidents, liver disease, murder by irrational drunks, etc…then they can legalize pot, which as far as I know has never killed anyone.

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the customs service was authorized to allow hemp products several years ago,by the commerce dept i think. the plant products contain no thc , and are very durable! and no no one in dc has gotton smarter or more enlightened,the producers just lobbied their way in. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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  for hemp clothing: www.jjill.com TheBody Shop also has some hemp beauty products. Love Caryn           "Come into my garden, my flowers want to meet you!"

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Ya wanna see some hemp? Take a drive along I-80 in Nebraska/Iowa or I- 90 in southern Minnesota towards the end of August. You will see growing in clumps along the sides of the interstate thousands upon thousands, perhaps millions of 8 foot hemp plants with 3 inch thick and long as yer arm pungent buds on ‘em. It looks and smells exactly like pot (cuz it is) but has absolutley no drug (THC) value whatsoever. You could smoke a pound and all you’d feel would be a headache. Why doesn’t someone do something about this social atrocity? Because anyone with half a brain could give a hoot about these weeds. I have been told that area of the midwest was the heartland of hemp production during WWI & WWII, providing rope & other war needs. Supposedly, most of these plants now are residual of that era. Every once in a while in that part of the country you’ll read newspaper reports or see on the news about how the in-need-of-reelection county sheriff or even the in-the-need-of- something-anything-to-do Army reserves get their pictures taken cutting these weeds down claiming it to be illegally cultivated pot. A few years ago a southern Minnesota paper showed photos of Army reservists with camoflage painted faces dropping out of helicopters into these weed (emphasis on WEED that is) patches to burn it down, claiming "doing their part in the war on drugs". They talked about special tactics to look out for ‘possible’ boobey traps set by the ‘pot growers’. Unforunately, most of the ignorant public just bought it up. And the evil cultivator was just Ma Nature. Very, very gullible we are. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Of course not. The are too stoned from smoking it. Hemp is a type of fiber gotten from several different plant species besides Cannabis sativa but they are not controversial or illegal. hemp is the fibers from cannabis indicus, which has virtually no canabinoids. hemp was legal until the 40s. it still grows wild in many parts of the US, but woe to you if it’s on your property… industrial hemp is only still illegal due to silly people who listen to drug propaganda put out by the cotton & chemical industries. as i’ve said before, i would like to put my fallow pasture to use growing industrial hemp as a cash crop & since i am violently allergic to marijuana, i’m pretty obviously not someone out trying to grow legal pot. hemp, as a fiber, is stronger, longer wearing & softer than cotton. it uses much less chemicals in it’s production, requires less water & would make a really good crop for rocky New England now that the dairy industry has collapsed… but king cotton & the chemical industy have stronger lobbies & great scare tactics. lee

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Yes Maim, focus the resources on the really scary drugs that are out there. Jeff

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Time to make pot legal.  And no, I don’t smoke it.  I have grown it for people with AIDS who cannot keep food down, and cannot eat due to no desire.  If alcohol is legal, and if alcohol kills many, many thousands of people each year from car accidents, liver disease, murder by irrational drunks, etc…then they can legalize pot, which as far as I know has never killed anyone. victoria Tobacco should be illegal!  And I used to smoke 3 packs a day, quit 2 years ago. Just last week the Kentucky legislature seriously discussed passing new laws to allow farmers to grow industrial hemp. The tobacco industry is slowly dying PUN IS intended!! Tobacco farmers in Kentucky and many other states are slowly going broke as the market dries up. Hemp has been touted as a viable replacement cash crop for them. The main problem is that industrial hemp looks just like real marijuana even though it doesn’t have the mind altering drugs in it. The cops can’t tell one from the other by looking.  It takes lab tests. Thus the druggies will undoubtedly hide their marijuana plants in the middle of hemp fields instead of corn fields and it will become virtually impossible to detect from the air as it is now. So not only does the cotton industry and the chemical companies fight it, the cops fight it too. Peace! Dan D. Before you buy.

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I just got my worm’s way catalog.  One of the product offered was hemp twine.  When did this happen?  Did we get someone in DC with common sense?  Does this mean I can start looking for hemp area rugs?

 it’s all imports. it appears that NH might be allowing test farming of industrial hemp… it’s something i’ll be checking into because i have a few acres that could be put to use for that. (i’m violently allergic to pot so i shouldn’t have trouble getting permits<g).  so, yes, you may be able to find hemp area rugs. you can find hemp clothing without too much trouble,also. industrial hemp is still being strongly lobbied against by the cotton growers & the chemical companies because it will cut into thier profits big time. hemp is sturdier than cotton & doesn’t need the herbicides & pesticides that cotton does (plus it has higher yield per acre). lee <wondering why flax isn’t as popular

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It has virtually no canabinioids.  Hemp is not marijuana.  People don’t realize that. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hemp products are available in Canada as well as the states.  I know the people who farm it are very strictly regulated, even though the plants carries very little of the stuff that makes it "mind altering". Jacqui I just got my worm’s way catalog.  One of the product offered was hemp twine.  When did this happen?  Did we get someone in DC with common sense?  Does this mean I can start looking for hemp area rugs? Zzhan

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Just last week the Kentucky legislature seriously discussed passing new laws to allow farmers to grow industrial hemp. The tobacco industry is slowly dying PUN IS intended!! Tobacco farmers in Kentucky and many other states are slowly going broke as the market dries up. Hemp has been touted as a viable replacement cash crop for them. The main problem is that industrial hemp looks just like real marijuana even though it doesn’t have the mind altering drugs in it. The cops can’t tell one from the other by looking.  It takes lab tests. Thus the druggies will undoubtedly hide their marijuana plants in the middle of hemp fields instead of corn fields and it will become virtually impossible to detect from the air as it is now. So not only does the cotton industry and the chemical companies fight it, the cops fight it too. Peace! Dan D. Before you buy.

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Hemp twine has been around for many decades. Now the let you know it is hemp because it markets well.  Most twine has always been made of hemp. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got my worm’s way catalog.  One of the product offered was hemp twine.  When did this happen?  Did we get someone in DC with common sense?  Does this mean I can start looking for hemp area rugs? Zzhan

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I just got my worm’s way catalog.  One of the product offered was hemp twine.  When did this happen?  Did we get someone in DC with common sense?  Does this mean I can start looking for hemp area rugs? Zzhan

"Hemp" can mean any of several similar plant fibers.  The twine could be mulberry hemp for all the catalog told you.

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Hemp products are available in Canada as well as the states.  I know the people who farm it are very strictly regulated, even though the plants carries very little of the stuff that makes it "mind altering". Jacqui

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got my worm’s way catalog.  One of the product offered was hemp twine.  When did this happen?  Did we get someone in DC with common sense?  Does this mean I can start looking for hemp area rugs? Zzhan

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I just got my worm’s way catalog.  One of the product offered was hemp twine.  When did this happen?  Did we get someone in DC with common sense?  Does this mean I can start looking for hemp area rugs? Zzhan

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There’s all sorts of hemp products on the market now. I don’t know what happened to allow it, but there’s yardage and all sorts of clothing – check out some of the "new age" type catalogs.  Wish I could give you the name of some, but everything I’ve had has gone out in recylcing. If  you want to check out fabrics White Fox Trading Company has some at http://whitefoxtrading.com/default.htm Follow the link that says fabrics &  prices. I haven’t purchased anything from them, just had the URL on hand  because of the reproduction stuff.  I think I’ve also seen some hemp and bead craft kits at Joann’s  Fabrics. Pat zone 6b

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