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ONE TOUCH TEST STRIPS – $19 PER BOX

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   Newsgroups: misc.health.diabetes    I would love to post my street address, but I think    Hmmm, why not? Almost all reputable businesses which    I see in WWW show an address (myself included). Rick.  Amcflip is right… It’s not considered a good idea to post PRIVATE addresses on Internet.  As you said. All reputable BUSINESSES do it, However there is a difference between a BUSINESS address and a HOME address.  That difference is, usually, security. Police crusing the business district know when you are or are not open So, if it’s 2am and they see lights moving about your office/business they will likely stop and investigate. However your house is quite a different situation.  Police are much less likely to know of your comming and goings and it’s likely that between 9am and 5pm your house is vacant (Mine is not if anyone is watching) so someone could break in to your house and steal a very nice, internet connected, computer and spam, spam, spam all on your nickle. Thus… As a police dispatcher… I have to caution against giving a personal PHYSICAL address on the net… Post office boxes are ok however as is "RR #2 Box 123 Postoffice, State, Zip code (I happen to know the post office is not allowed to translate either of those into a physical address w/o a federal court order) Woman was working on her Doctor’s thesis.  Finally finished it. All done. Final edits and ready for printing… It’s late, She saves the file and goes Time passes, She gets up, Fixes breakfast, Goes to the computer room and….. And no…. She’d never heard of BACK UPs STORED ELSEWHERE  "Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Don’t sweat the petty parts, pet the sweaty parts! Net-Tamer V 1.08X – Registered

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I would love to post my street address, but I think that anyone in their right mind wouldn’t do that on the internet, no matter what the circumstances!

Hmmm, why not? Almost all reputable businesses which I see in WWW show an address (myself included). —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You know, this whole discussion brings up a point that I have made for some time. Until there is an Internet Merchants Association that certifies the people doing business on-line as being absolutely legitimate, folks are going to be gun shy about dealing with them. This will be one of the biggest deterrents to the maturity of the Web until it exists. BTW, I would have to agree. With no way of knowing if this gentleman is a legit business, I’d hold my money too. — Rev. Mike and Virgie Bugal Cyberspace Celebrations http://www.seanet.com/~gypsy95/ Heartland Chapel http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5349

Ha any one ordered this one touch strips  and what is their experience. Are these strips old strips being sold after their expiration date. Still it might be good idea to check it out for its validity.

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You know, this whole discussion brings up a point that I have made for some time. Until there is an Internet Merchants Association that certifies the people doing business on-line as being absolutely legitimate, folks are going to be gun shy about dealing with them. This will be one of the biggest deterrents to the maturity of the Web until it exists. BTW, I would have to agree. With no way of knowing if this gentleman is a legit business, I’d hold my money too. — Rev. Mike and Virgie Bugal Cyberspace Celebrations http://www.seanet.com/~gypsy95/ Heartland Chapel http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5349

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Wow Ed, Im glad to see you know more about me than I do!  Your a real life detective, Im so impressed.  I’m not in the business of milking people out of 19.95, especially diabetics.  Am I the only person on the internet that uses a P.O. Box #..?  I would love to post my street address, but I think that anyone in their right mind wouldn’t do that on the internet, no matter what the circumstances!  Maybe I should post my SSN or Drivers License also?  If you don’t like the "great" price, I respect your decision in feeling that way, but if people want a good deal, they will buy from me. If not, they won’t.  Not a problem.

You know, I just don’t think that you are telling the truth. In other words, I am not advising others to not buy from you but . . . well, yes I am sort of doing exactly that.  Don’t buy from this person because he is likely taking advantage of you.

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Wow Ed, Im glad to see you know more about me than I do!  Your a real life detective, Im so impressed.  I’m not in the business of milking people out of 19.95, especially diabetics.  Am I the only person on the internet that uses a P.O. Box #..?  I would love to post my street address, but I think that anyone in their right mind wouldn’t do that on the internet, no matter what the circumstances!  Maybe I should post my SSN or Drivers License also?  If you don’t like the "great" price, I respect your decision in feeling that way, but if people want a good deal, they will buy from me. If not, they won’t.  Not a problem.

Well I don’t, of course, know whether you or Ed are correct here. I have only your word that you’re "not in the business of milking people out of 19.95, especially diabetics." Forgive my cynicism, but there’s more than ample evidence that there are people around who would milk diabetics or terminal cancer patients or any other classification of people out of however many dollars they can get. You obviously don’t feel it wise to post your street address (or SSN or DL) on the internet. Good thinking! I don’t think it is a good idea to send money to a PO box, especially one where all I have is knowledge that the person posting can afford an ISP account. Seems like a bit of a standoff, doesn’t it. Legitimate businesses have "proofs of existence" that go beyond a P.O. Box. They have a business address. They are licensed in the city in which they do business (do you have a business license in Temecula?). They have a telephone number. They belong to the Better Business Bureau or the Chamber of Commerce. They aren’t afraid to identify their business structure and identify their officers or owners. They take credit cards for mail-order. They publish catalogs or at least product lists. You don’t need *all* of these, but something beyond a P.O. Box would seem desirable. Now mind that even with all of the above, a business can be crooked and even without any of the above, a business can be straight. However, only a fool, an overly-trusting person, or a person who has more money than s/he knows what to do with, would send cash or checks to the P.O. Box of a business whose legitimacy can’t be verified. If the deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is. My pharmicist would love to get One Touch strips at $19.00/box, but he isn’t going to send you his cash either. — I don’t speak for the University and it doesn’t speak for me.

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Wow Ed, Im glad to see you know more about me than I do!  Your a real life detective, Im so impressed.  I’m not in the business of milking people out of 19.95, especially diabetics.  Am I the only person on the internet that uses a P.O. Box #..?  I would love to post my street address, but I think that anyone in their right mind wouldn’t do that on the internet, no matter what the circumstances!  Maybe I should post my SSN or Drivers License also?  If you don’t like the "great" price, I respect your decision in feeling that way, but if people want a good deal, they will buy from me. If not, they won’t.  Not a problem. ONE TOUCH TEST STRIPS – $19 per box of 50 (Plus $5 S/H) DPS P.O. Box 890253 Temecula, CA. 92589-0253 Thanks for your interest! David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Non-diabetes newsgroups trimmed because I don’t think anyone else cares. Organization: DPS ENTERPRISES   … $19 per box (50’s) + $5 S/H in the U.S. $400 per case (24 Boxes)  + $15 S/H Now that *is* a great price. But note a few disturbing facets of his offer. DPS Enterprises has no phone number listed in Temecula, and searching the web for dps-enterprises yields no identifiable hits. Since his first name is David, I suspect that his initials are DPS. He does not give his last name or street address. He gives no phone number. The only ways to contact him are by email or by post office box. In other words, if something goes wrong with the deal, you can’t contact him. He doesn’t take credit cards, only check or money order. While this is reasonable for someone trying to cut margins close, it means you have little recourse if he doesn’t deliver. Furthermore, this guy recently took part in discussions on alt.2600.cardz, a newsgroup apparently devoted to discussing the how-to of credit card forgery. While he didn’t actually advocate anything illegal, one is judged (fairly or not) by the company one keeps. (Hmm, what does that say about me, posting to mhd.) To David aka AMCFLIP dba DPS: if you want to sell stuff here, I suggest that you give an actual location of business, say whether you are a corporation or sole prop and whether your dba name is registered, and explain how you are able to give a retail price that appears to be less that what large buyers pay wholesale. Otherwise I suspect you won’t get many takers. Certainly not me. Edward Reid

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Non-diabetes newsgroups trimmed because I don’t think anyone else cares. Organization: DPS ENTERPRISES   … $19 per box (50’s) + $5 S/H in the U.S. $400 per case (24 Boxes)  + $15 S/H

Now that *is* a great price. But note a few disturbing facets of his offer. DPS Enterprises has no phone number listed in Temecula, and searching the web for dps-enterprises yields no identifiable hits. Since his first name is David, I suspect that his initials are DPS. He does not give his last name or street address. He gives no phone number. The only ways to contact him are by email or by post office box. In other words, if something goes wrong with the deal, you can’t contact him. He doesn’t take credit cards, only check or money order. While this is reasonable for someone trying to cut margins close, it means you have little recourse if he doesn’t deliver. Furthermore, this guy recently took part in discussions on alt.2600.cardz, a newsgroup apparently devoted to discussing the how-to of credit card forgery. While he didn’t actually advocate anything illegal, one is judged (fairly or not) by the company one keeps. (Hmm, what does that say about me, posting to mhd.) To David aka AMCFLIP dba DPS: if you want to sell stuff here, I suggest that you give an actual location of business, say whether you are a corporation or sole prop and whether your dba name is registered, and explain how you are able to give a retail price that appears to be less that what large buyers pay wholesale. Otherwise I suspect you won’t get many takers. Certainly not me. Edward Reid

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