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A Cancer story that needs to be told.
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It has medical patents. No others have.
I have no idea how good or otherwise this product is, but I would point out that in order to patent something you don’t have to prove that it works. You only have to prove that it is an original idea. There are plenty of patents around for things that don’t work or are even downright dangerous. Patent is only evidence of originality and a basis for protecting manufacturing rights, nothing else. Tim Jackson
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Ignoring facts is sad.
So is hawking wares in a cancer newsgroup. — we see things not as they are, but as we are. — Anais Nin
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I’ll save you some time
Spend some time and a few dollars and phone any one of the Doctors who prescribe this drug qualified natural product to their patients. Look up the mulititude of Canadian and US Medical Doctors who travel and lecture about this product. Visit Doctor Bounous in Montreal and ask him how it works in a scientific, pathological way. Career Investigator of the Medical Research Council and recipient of the 1965 medal of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada, Dr. Gustavo Bounous initiated a novel research program to search for a dietary protein source that would boost the immune system. In conjunction with a colleague from the McGill University Faculty of Medicine (Patricia A.L. Kongshavn, Ph.D) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.lehms9… e%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN, his studies led to the discovery of an undenatured serum milk concentrate that sustains normal glutathione levels and promoted immuneoenhancing and anticarcinogenic activity. Considered to be the father of whey protein research, Gustavo Bounous, M.D. is Immunotec’s Director of Research and Development. Phone Doctor Jimmy Gutman…..come listen to him lecture in Toronto this month Walk with him during his rounds at Montreal General hospital as he teaches other doctors about this product. Canadian doctors don’t benefit financially in a public health care system as US doctors do. Negativity is one thing. Ignoring facts is sad.
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Studies on Immunocal Please supply a pointer to the web site where this research is published. References to articles in peer-reviewed journals would also be helpful. Stories about individuals, while heart-felt, don’t tell us much about how well your treatment will work in the general population. – Tony I’ll save you some time.
Why be narow minded? Follow these links for information about a natural product that has medical patents for cancer treatment, prevention and assit for anyone during chemo and radio therapy if you are looking for something medically & scientifically proven. Cut and paste any that dont line wrap in the message. It has medical patents. No others have. It is covered by Medicare and Medicaid which are major drug plans. It is listed in the Physician’s Desk Reference. It is included in the Pharmacy ‘Red’ book. It will be in the Canadian C.P.S. in 2004. It is undenatured. No others are. It is the only bioactive whey protein product. It is the only glutathione precursor. It is the only one that is a Cysteine delivery system. It has many completed human ‘in vivo’ clinical studies. The original studies were funded by the Canadian Government and the Canada Research Council. It is prescribed by Canadian & US Doctors HMS-90 or Immunocal is Drug qualified. It is the only Whey protein isolate that is packaged under pharmaceutical protocols. Including triple wrap packaging, lot numbers, batch numbers, and expiry dates. Canadian medical cancer patent for a natural product: http://patents1.ic.gc.ca/details?patent_number=2142277&language=EN_CA United States cancer patent for a natural product: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P… &u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=’5,888,552′.WKU.&OS=PN/5,888,552&R S =PN/5,888,552 Medical paptent for boosting the immune system as needed by cancer patients: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/… l/search-adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&p=1&p=1&S1=5,230,902.WKU.&OS=PN/5,230, 9 02&RS=PN/5,230,902 A natural product found at a medical data base: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&do… DocSum&term=immunocal http://www.immunesystemsupport.com/wpcagmct/gmct.html http://www.immunesystemsupport.com/osicaand/chapt-42.html http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/00/slides/3652s1_05/sld001.htm http://wiz2.pharm.wayne.edu/biochem/aametab.html http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/glut.html http://www.genome.ad.jp/kegg/pathway/map/map00480.html http://www.ceri.com/redox.htm http://my.webmd.com/content/article/11/1671_52405 http://www.babyboomers-seniors.com/feb00/botm.html http://pages.cthome.net/xx/whey11.htm http://www.google.ca/search?q=celine+dion+immunotec&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=… = http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&do… DocSum&term=(immunocal) AND ((double [WORD] AND blind* [WORD]) OR placebo [WORD]) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&do… DocSum&term=glutathione+cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&do… DocSum&term=Bounous G All the best to you.
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A Cancer story that needs to be told.
There is a story that surely needs to be told. We’re mortal; of all the creatures, we’re distinguished by knowing this. Many of us will be diagnosed with cancer; the disease will kill some quickly, some slowly, some not at all, their end coming from other means. Medical science struggles to make advances in the ability to deal with this awful disease, and advances are and continue to be made. But there comes a time for some when the inevitable must be recognised, peace made, palliative action taken. Around the fringes of the battle lurk the wolves of false hope. I’ve seen them in action; probably many of you have. Mysterious potions and procedures are offered for a price, promises, unsupported by the normal rules of evidence, held out, the decency of a peaceful reconciliation with the inevitability of the end is denied. Beware this course, I urge you. Tragedy is magnified along this road.
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Follow these links for information about a natural product that has medical patents for cancer treatment, prevention and assit for anyone during chemo and radio therapy if you are looking for something medically & scientifically proven. Cut and paste any that dont line wrap in the message. It has medical patents. No others have. It is covered by Medicare and Medicaid which are major drug plans. It is listed in the Physician’s Desk Reference. It is included in the Pharmacy ‘Red’ book. It will be in the Canadian C.P.S. in 2004. It is undenatured. No others are. It is the only bioactive whey protein product. It is the only glutathione precursor. It is the only one that is a Cysteine delivery system. It has many completed human ‘in vivo’ clinical studies. The original studies were funded by the Canadian Government and the Canada Research Council. It is prescribed by Canadian & US Doctors HMS-90 or Immunocal is Drug qualified. It is the only Whey protein isolate that is packaged under pharmaceutical protocols. Including triple wrap packaging, lot numbers, batch numbers, and expiry dates. Canadian medical cancer patent for a natural product: http://patents1.ic.gc.ca/details?patent_number=2142277&language=EN_CA United States cancer patent for a natural product: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P… &u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=’5,888,552′.WKU.&OS=PN/5,888,552&R S =PN/5,888,552 Medical paptent for boosting the immune system as needed by cancer patients: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/… l/search-adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&p=1&p=1&S1=5,230,902.WKU.&OS=PN/5,230, 9 02&RS=PN/5,230,902 A natural product found at a medical data base: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&do… DocSum&term=immunocal http://www.immunesystemsupport.com/wpcagmct/gmct.html http://www.immunesystemsupport.com/osicaand/chapt-42.html http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/00/slides/3652s1_05/sld001.htm http://wiz2.pharm.wayne.edu/biochem/aametab.html http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/glut.html http://www.genome.ad.jp/kegg/pathway/map/map00480.html http://www.ceri.com/redox.htm http://my.webmd.com/content/article/11/1671_52405 http://www.babyboomers-seniors.com/feb00/botm.html http://pages.cthome.net/xx/whey11.htm http://www.google.ca/search?q=celine+dion+immunotec&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=… = http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&do… DocSum&term=(immunocal) AND ((double [WORD] AND blind* [WORD]) OR placebo [WORD]) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&do… DocSum&term=glutathione+cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&do… DocSum&term=Bounous G All the best to you.
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Studies on Immunocal will be presented next May at an international conference in New York organized by the Mount Sinai Hospital. They will deal specifically with the manipulation of cellular Glutathione in the treatment of cancer and AIDS.
Please supply a pointer to the web site where this research is published. References to articles in peer-reviewed journals would also be helpful. Stories about individuals, while heart-felt, don’t tell us much about how well your treatment will work in the general population. – Tony — Tony Lima /" ASCII ribbon campaign / against HTML mail X and postings /
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Studies on Immunocal Please supply a pointer to the web site where this research is published. References to articles in peer-reviewed journals would also be helpful. Stories about individuals, while heart-felt, don’t tell us much about how well your treatment will work in the general population. – Tony
I’ll save you some time. This is what is one both their web pages It’s a nutriitional supplement "You understand and agree that: 1. Immunotec makes no claim that its products are anything other than dietary supplements designed to improve nutrition and, thereby, optimize health. Everyone regardless of his/her original state of health can benefit from improved nutrition. 2. Dietary supplements are nutritional products and are not designed for use in the treatment of disease or to substitute for a doctor’s care or for proven therapy. Immunotec’s dietary supplements are designed to improve nutrition and general well-being. 4. Immunotec products are nutritional in nature and do not substitute for a doctor’s care or for proven therapy. 5. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease." J
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A Cancer story that needs to be told. It started in November 2002. Betty Murray phoned Karen O’Handley. She had heard about Karen’s 20 year old son, Brian Carmichael, had been diagnosed with cancer in May of 2002 and that Karen had been actively searching for a natural yet effective way to repair her son’s damaged immune system. Betty knew that Immunocal / HMS-90 could help protect him from the damaging side effects of chemo and radiation, so despite not knowing Karen, she picked up the phone and made the call. As Karen puts it "I’m glad I had the sense to listen to her!" Brian’s rare and aggressive cancer (Ewing’s Sarcoma/PNET) was considered stage 1V at the time of diagnosis in May 2002. The primary tumor was in his right shoulder blade with growths under his right arm, in his sternum, over his heart and in both of his lungs. The medical community could only offer mega doses of chemo because the spread of the cancer made it inoperable and ruled out radiation. Brian’s CAT scan (Aug.2002) showed that the cancer had eaten away at his sternum bone and his heart was swollen with a very visible growth over it, projecting out to the side. Both lungs had multiple metastases in them. Because this cancer grew so rapidly, by the time Brian started chemo (Feb.2003), the massive growth under his right arm was so large he could not put his arm down by his side and he had to walk around with his elbow extended in the air and his hand near his chest. During the next 8 months Brian took 4 packages of Immunocal / HMS-90 per day. He started on the road to recovery from cancer. His most recent CAT scan showed that his sternum bone had no sign of cancer in or around it, had filled in and was smooth. Brian’s heart had returned to a normal appearance and the growth over it is gone. The metastases in the lungs were so small they were difficult to tell what they were. The mass under his arm totally flattened and his upper body had regained it’s normal appearance. Brian’s oncologist was so impressed how quickly Brian’s body had responded to the chemo, that he is telling his colleagues and other patients about Immunocal / HMS-90. Karen said " I don’t think I could ever adequately express how grateful I am to Doctor Bounous for discovering Immunocal / HMS-90." Update Feb 2004. Continues… "Brian was first diagnosed with stage 1V cancer in May 2002 and has been on 4 packs of Immunocal / Hms-90 daily since December 2002. We visited a surgeon in November 2003 after Brian’s most recent CT scan to get the results and consider what to do next. The CT report gave us very good news.. Brian is no longer stage 1V because the cancer is gone in his lungs, over his heart and in his sternum. Additionally ALL his organs read normal on the scan, including his lymph glands; plus the damaged sternum bone has healed. That was exactly what I was hoping Immunocal / HMS-90 would do – protect his organs and his blood supply from the chemo and radiation treatments while helping to reduce the spread of the cancer. The primary tumor in Brian’s shoulder blade was smaller, so he’ll be having an MRI and a bone scan done in order to determine the exact size and dimensions of what is left. We’ll then receive at least two options from two surgeons about what to do with the remains of the tumor in the bone. Brian will stay on 4 packs of Immunocal / HMS-90 daily and maybe, just maybe the remains of the tumor will continue to shrink. He’s feeling and looking great, plus he’s working 30 hours per week. Brian will be on Immunocal / HMS-90 for the rest of his life, as far as I’m concerned! We are so grateful for this beautiful white powder..thank you Doctor Bounous!" ……. Update April 2004. " In December, Brian had a whole-body bone scan and an MRI. When we went for the results, we expected to hear that at the very least as operation on his shoulder blade would be necessary. Worst case scenario would be removal of the entire shoulder blade to get all the cancer. Instead we were told that the cancer is completely gone in his shoulder blade, and that the bone scan is "clear and clean". Can you believe it? There is no cancer in any of his bones! In January, when the surgeon couldn’t physically locate any trace of the cancer under Brian’s arm, he sent him for a biopsy, the results of which were confirmed by the Director of Anatomic pathology at Emory University in Atlanta. It’s official.both pathology labs confirmed it…MY SON IS CANCER FREE..isn’t that incredible? No malignancy can be found anywhere. The biopsy is clear and the bone scan is clear. Additionally, the MRI and CT scans show no trace of cancer and no damage to any of his organs or lymph glands. Please share this wonderful news with other s (including your doctors), and let everyone know about the marvelous things Immunocal / HMS-90 does to help a person’s immune system stay strong! Thank you from the bottom of my heart, to everyone that has been so supportive of us!" Karen O’Handley. March 16, 2004 An Exciting Medical Discovery For The Immune System Helps Celine’s Husband … Rene Angelil. QUEBEC–(BW HealthWire)–Nov. 15, 1999–Celine Dion can now sing forth `my heart will go on’ with new meaning. Eight months ago her husband Rene Angelil was diagnosed with melanoma and that cast a shadow not only over her career, but over her life. She has subsequently taken a hiatus from touring and recording, to concentrate on more important matters. Now, thanks to some important breakthrough research out of Montreal, Canada, it was recently reported in Le Journal de Montreal that Rene has been making good progress. He has made use of an important innovation discovered by the eminent research scientist Dr. Gustavo Bounous. The Dion family has close ties to the Doctors. Last March, Therese Dion, Celine Dion’s mother, met with Dr. Bounous and Dr. Lands and others to discuss their work and became fascinated by the new approaches to health and disease management. "I don’t believe in coincidences," Mrs. Dion told us this week. "It all happened at the time that I learned that Rene had cancer. I called Celine to tell her about Immunocal. Rene’s doctor, who had contacted Dr. Bounous himself, saw no reason why Rene couldn’t take this supplement." It is now past six months that Rene has been adding Immunocal to his daily regimen, with surprising efficacy. Dr. Bounous points out that "the discovery that specific whey proteins slow carcinogenesis (the process of cancer formation) and tumor growth itself have been confirmed by researchers in Australia, the US and Europe. Studies on Immunocal will be presented next May at an international conference in New York organized by the Mount Sinai Hospital. They will deal specifically with the manipulation of cellular Glutathione in the treatment of cancer and AIDS. Saku Koivu returned to play hockey as the captain of the Montreal Canadian’s team. He is taking 4 packs of Immunocal / HMS-90 per day. It seems impossible that almost exactly seven months ago, Koivu had stood just a few feet away from where he stood Tuesday night. His head was clean shaven then, his hair the most visible victim of the chemotherapy treatments he had just begun to battle the non-Hodgkins lymphoma that had been discovered in his abdomen. http://espn.go.com/nhl/news/2002/0409/1365906.html A natural product with medical patents for cancer, AIDS and the immune system is very unique. If you think this is spam you are mistaken. Spam is unsolicited mass e-mailing. An on-topic story in a Usenet newsgroup does not qualify. All newsgroup messages are unsolicited in reality. And isn’t the quest to share helpful information in a specific newsgroup?