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STEVE BAYT The evidence is overwhelming. There is no medical,nutrition or health person or group that calls Atkins anything but a sure bet for a heart attack and other fatalities. The American Heart Association The Cleveland Clinic The Mayo Clinic The Yale University Medical School Every cardiologist throughout the country John Hopkins University. The American Medical Association The American Dietitic Association The National Cancer Institute Baylor College of Medicine ETC. ETC. ETC. Every hospital not financially connected to Atkins A trip to the library to ask for section NF616, a trip to a doctor or going to wwww.americanheart.org www.clevelandclinic.org/heartcenter or www.atkinsalert.org will confirm my research. For the only thing I care about isn’t Internet responses but doctors’ responses in the non-cyber world. For I will achieve a 100% success rate among doctors, nutritionists and dietitians regardless of the idiots who post responses which only delay people getting the serious medical advice needed in the real world. THERE IS NOT ONE DOCTOR anywhere allowed to practice medicine in The United States that is allowed to even mention to clients the Atkins diet as a possible weight loss plan. It  violates the policies of the American Medical Association. Anyone on Atkins has one of two choices. Stay on Atkins, or wait for any of the hundreds of fatalities to send you to a Coronary Care Unit-then possibly a funeral. My(not The Plain Dealer’s) next full article: July 27th the 23rd Memorium of Adam Walsh with the hope that Atkins and Adam share only a first letter. If you are on Atkins don’t apologize to loved ones or co-workers from a Coronary Care Unit or hospital bedside vigil. For Love Means Never Having To Say… You’re Sorry.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – STEVE BAYT The evidence is overwhelming. There is no medical,nutrition or health person or group that calls Atkins anything but a sure bet for a heart attack and other fatalities. The American Heart Association The Cleveland Clinic The Mayo Clinic The Yale University Medical School Every cardiologist throughout the country John Hopkins University. The American Medical Association The American Dietitic Association The National Cancer Institute Baylor College of Medicine ETC. ETC. ETC. Every hospital not financially connected to Atkins A trip to the library to ask for section NF616, a trip to a doctor or going to wwww.americanheart.org www.clevelandclinic.org/heartcenter or www.atkinsalert.org will confirm my research. For the only thing I care about isn’t Internet responses but doctors’ responses in the non-cyber world. For I will achieve a 100% success rate among doctors, nutritionists and dietitians regardless of the idiots who post responses which only delay people getting the serious medical advice needed in the real world. THERE IS NOT ONE DOCTOR anywhere allowed to practice medicine in The United States that is allowed to even mention to clients the Atkins diet as a possible weight loss plan. It  violates the policies of the American Medical Association. Anyone on Atkins has one of two choices. Stay on Atkins, or wait for any of the hundreds of fatalities to send you to a Coronary Care Unit-then possibly a funeral. My(not The Plain Dealer’s) next full article: July 27th the 23rd Memorium of Adam Walsh with the hope that Atkins and Adam share only a first letter. If you are on Atkins don’t apologize to loved ones or co-workers from a Coronary Care Unit or hospital bedside vigil. For Love Means Never Having To Say… You’re Sorry.

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| STEVE BAYT <snip b.s. (Putting on my tin foil hat so the same alien rays that got to Steve won’t reach my brain). Google this nut job.  It’s entertaining; he has several crusades going besides his Atkins hate campaign — including trying to get Soap Opera Digest shut down.  Hee hee. — Peter 270/215/180 Before/Current Pix: http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html

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thanks for the urban legend.

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I was saving a good fart for him, but don’t know how to deliver it personally.

In a jar. Worked for me as a kid, doubt technology has made it redundant. The simple things are often the best.

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| STEVE BAYT <snip b.s. (Putting on my tin foil hat so the same alien rays that got to Steve won’t reach my brain). Google this nut job.  It’s entertaining; he has several crusades going besides his Atkins hate campaign — including trying to get Soap Opera Digest shut down.  Hee hee.

I was saving a good fart for him, but don’t know how to deliver it personally.

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I was saving a good fart for him, but don’t know how to deliver it personally. In a jar. Worked for me as a kid, doubt technology has made it redundant. The simple things are often the best.

But sending glass is expensive. Postage, you know. Instead, put it into a zipper bag or one of the ones you can seal on a Foodsaver or similar machine. Cheaper to send and puzzling when it arrives. Looks like an empty bag. Oh, shout a few appropriate insults into the bag and quickly close it. That way, when he opens it, the smell comes out right behind some loud, scary language. Certainly seems the right way to deal with Steve… Pastorio

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BJ

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THERE IS NOT ONE DOCTOR anywhere allowed to practice medicine in The United States that is allowed to even mention to clients the Atkins diet as a possible weight loss plan. It  violates the policies of the American Medical Association.

Sweet Jesus, you are a dimbulb. If you’re going to talk shit, at least learn the vocabulary. Also what the AMA is about. Also what authority they have. It’s crap like this that guarantees that no one brighter than a grapefruit will ever accord you more than a sneering dismissal. Get over it. Pastorio

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From the email address I would guess this guy is also into dietary supplements. BJ

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Everyone needs a hobby or two. — Linda 296/213/160 LC since Oct. 13, 2003 http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | STEVE BAYT <snip b.s. (Putting on my tin foil hat so the same alien rays that got to Steve won’t reach my brain). Google this nut job.  It’s entertaining; he has several crusades going besides his Atkins hate campaign — including trying to get Soap Opera Digest shut down.  Hee hee. — Peter 270/215/180 Before/Current Pix: http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html

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… THERE IS NOT ONE DOCTOR anywhere allowed to practice medicine in The United States that is allowed to even mention to clients the Atkins diet as a possible weight loss plan. It  violates the policies of the American Medical Association.

… My doctor was very pleased to hear I’d started atkins.  He said (1) in his opinion, any non-starvation diet (WW, BFL, Atkins, South Beach, whatever) is good, because it breaks up your old eating habits and gives you an opportunity to form good ones and (2) research shows that low carb is a little better than the others at lowering cholesterol and weight. Good trolling.  (I usually don’t bite).

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| STEVE BAYT <snip b.s. (Putting on my tin foil hat so the same alien rays that got to Steve won’t reach my brain). Google this nut job.  It’s entertaining; he has several crusades going besides his Atkins hate campaign — including trying to get Soap Opera Digest shut down.  Hee hee.

  He seems himself as an "E-Journalist", who when he’s not writing his "E-Journalism" articles, appears to spend most of his time watching soap operas.

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What’s yur point? We all know his email is a fake. It’s the posting reference and ID that positively identifies his account. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BJ

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STEVE BAYT The evidence is overwhelming. There is no medical,nutrition or health person or group that calls Atkins anything but a sure bet for a heart attack and other fatalities.

Such a well thought out posting.  How long have you been out of the mental institution.  Did you leave with our without your meds. You do need a big steak. I love vegetarian meals, I don’t follow a low carb diet but I think you and your statements are extreme and at variance with current medical thought and treatment for Diabetes.

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Ever since this Atkins fad has become so popular, I am considering becoming an undertaker.  It should be a thriving business in the next few years until the diet fad wears off.  However the medical profession will have to start rejecting organ donors who died from ARDS, since none of these organs will be usable.  They better start asking blood donors if they are doing Atkins too. Atkins = Doctor Death

You people who have this "thing" about Atkins really crack me up.  You know nothing about it, obviously don’t want to know anything about it, and ignore the ovbious.  It’s all healthy FOOD, for Christ’s sake!

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STEVE BAYT The evidence is overwhelming. There is no medical,nutrition or health person or group that calls Atkins anything but a sure bet for a heart attack and other fatalities.

My endocrinologist begs to differ. Priscilla

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Ever since this Atkins fad has become so popular, I am considering becoming an undertaker.  It should be a thriving business in the next few years until the diet fad wears off.  However the medical profession will have to start rejecting organ donors who died from ARDS, since none of these organs will be usable.  They better start asking blood donors if they are doing Atkins too. Atkins = Doctor Death You people who have this "thing" about Atkins really crack me up.  You know nothing about it, obviously don’t want to know anything about it, and ignore the ovbious.  It’s all healthy FOOD, for Christ’s sake!

I think these posters work for the bread and spaghetti making companies. Seriously.

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STEVE BAYT The evidence is overwhelming. There is no medical,nutrition or health person or group that calls Atkins anything but a sure bet for a heart attack and other fatalities. My endocrinologist begs to differ.

Ya gotta know Stevie Bayt to understand what is going on. Read his rantings on SB 7822 and how much he did not understand it.

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The evidence is overwhelming. There is no medical,nutrition or health person or group that calls Atkins anything but a sure bet for a heart attack and other fatalities.

I think you will find that most medical, nutrition or health people don’t really know much outside the conventional widsom. Many of them have invested years of their life in learning what they know, it’s quite natural that they’d be hostile to anything that disagrees with them. A trip to the library to ask for section NF616, a trip to a doctor or going to wwww.americanheart.org www.clevelandclinic.org/heartcenter or www.atkinsalert.org will confirm my research.

I can’t seem to connect to the atkinsalert or clevelandclinic sites. The americanheart site doesn’t seem to entirely agree with your initial paragraph, in fact in the articles I’ve read there it seems rather more balanced. For the only thing I care about isn’t Internet responses but doctors’ responses in the non-cyber world. For I will achieve a 100% success rate among doctors, nutritionists and dietitians regardless of the idiots who post responses which only delay people getting the serious medical advice needed in the real world.

A 100% success rate in what? As in real-life results with regards to weight-loss and health or in getting people to agree with you in an Internet argument? I think the success rate of the Atkins diet speaks for itself regardless of the conventional wisdom. THERE IS NOT ONE DOCTOR anywhere allowed to practice medicine in The United States that is allowed to even mention to clients the Atkins diet as a possible weight loss plan. It  violates the policies of the American Medical Association.

I think that says more for the stubbornness of the American medical society than it does for the Atkins diet. I for one think that a low-fat, carbohydrate-rich diet is more unhealthy and less productive than a diet in which the macronutrient proportions are tipped more towards fats and proteins, but then again I’m basing my opinion on science and results rather than sticking to the dogma that pays the bills. Anyone on Atkins has one of two choices. Stay on Atkins, or wait for any of the hundreds of fatalities to send you to a Coronary Care Unit-then possibly a funeral.

Are you sure about that? What part of the Atkins diet would induce a heart attack? I didn’t realise that protein and unsaturated fats were harmful to the heart, or that high carbohydrate intake was necessary for maintaining a healthy heart. If you are on Atkins don’t apologize to loved ones or co-workers from a Coronary Care Unit or hospital bedside vigil. For Love Means Never Having To Say… You’re Sorry.

What’s with all the fanatical scaremongering? Can’t we debate this like adults?

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