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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you. I will get the essiac tea for them and investigate the other link. I have seen that the people with HIV have pushed the envelope of the established order and helped open things up for everyone. I have been investigating ozone too. Before going to far in your research of ozone you might want to take a look at http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cancer.html Sigh. This is not the best site in my view. Unfortunately, the polemics and anti-"alternative" squealing that they do at this site is just as bad as the "cure for everything" shit that comes from some of the kooks at the other end of the spectrum. But at least it is a foil that can raise questions. Skepticism is healthy. Bigoted denial or gullible acceptance are equally dangerous.

I agree quackwatch uses a pretty heavy hand when it writes it’s  matirial on food supplements and viatems but on the topic of ozone I have no doubt that ther are in fact correct. A think they do a much better job dealign with fake cures from mechincal curing devices then they do with viatmens and food subjects. and the poster in question had mentioned looking into ozone treatment as a cancer cure I fealt safe that she would get farily objective matiral on that single subject. Gary Stein – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – George M. Carter

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snip… I agree quackwatch uses a pretty heavy hand when it writes it’s  matirial on food supplements and viatems but on the topic of ozone I have no doubt that ther are in fact correct. A think they do a much better job dealign with fake cures from mechincal curing devices then they do with viatmens and food subjects. and the poster in question had mentioned looking into ozone treatment as a cancer cure I fealt safe that she would get farily objective matiral on that single subject.

I think you’re basically right on that score. George M. Carter

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Thank you. I will get the essiac tea for them and investigate the other link. I have seen that the people with HIV have pushed the envelope of the established order and helped open things up for everyone. I have been investigating ozone too.

Before going to far in your research of ozone you might want to take a look at http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cancer.html Gary Stein – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And I am trying using coconut oil instead of the other toxic ones. I think it has boosted my energy level. I am 68 and a retired nurse. I too feel that the disease here is not as bad maybe as the medical makes out as it is one year from the time my daughter was diagnoses and she would be in bad shape now if she had had her thyroid out and been radiated. As it is she is radiant but with a lump in her neck. It is amazing too how these things can heal a family. I am also very sorry if I have offended people on this group as I didn’t realize it had a specific focus. I should have read more. They have both started this 714X which classed as an experimental drug here in Canada after the authorities tried to get rid of it but so many patients supported it that it was allowed under this category. I was hoping to get feedback from others who might have used it.  I have also heard that it is very good for the immune system, but they are not allowed to make any claims for it. I was hoping to hear from anyone who has used it. It is not too expensive and costs $100.Canadian for every 21 days. The best of all things to you, Lydia I have a husband and a daughter with cancer. They are both feeling well, as they have rejected medical intervension. My husband has been on chinese herbs for several years but as these only hold the desease not cure it he is now trying 714X as is my daughter with thyroid cancer. Has anyone any experience with this product? Also I was amazed to cure my very irregular heart. I am in good health and 67 yrs old, but a few months ago my heart beats became very soggy and very irregular. My friend also an old nurse has done a lot of electro acupuncture thought it might be because of back spasm and sure enough when she got out my spasms my heart beat became regular. I had been to a cardiologist who tested me and didn’t know what the problem was but had told me it was benign. Lydia Very interesting to hear of your success with those treatments. Of course the medicos are completely hopeless when it comes to chronic disease, but are good at emergencies – ie antibiotics, surgery, emergency drugs and transfusions etc. Personally that’s all I ever use them for. I don’t know if you’ve heard of a herbal formula called "Essiac" or Caisse’s tea (essiac is caisse backwards, who was the originator of the remedy). This is a specific for Cancer (and also Lupus and is good for many other things) and I’ve personally seen dramatic results from its use. It’s available in many health food shops in the US. If you can’t find it you can mix up your own, it’s just 4 herbs, or order it online – eg from http://www.natheal.demon.co.uk/00essiac.htm Fresh vegetable juices from a juicer seem also very powerful against cancers. Might also be worth looking at the suggestions of  the "study group for AIDS therapy" since they believe that so-called AIDS and cancer have basically the same causes. http://www.polder.net/aids/data2/ahrecom.htm  - worth a read. Two of the main things they recommend are agar agar and whey. I believe that many cancers are probably not that serious if we knew more about them – which the medical industry is in my opinion preventing by their simplistic obsession with highly profitable pharmaceutical solutions.

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Thank you. I will get the essiac tea for them and investigate the other link. I have seen that the people with HIV have pushed the envelope of the established order and helped open things up for everyone. I have been investigating ozone too. Before going to far in your research of ozone you might want to take a look at http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cancer.html

Sigh. This is not the best site in my view. Unfortunately, the polemics and anti-"alternative" squealing that they do at this site is just as bad as the "cure for everything" shit that comes from some of the kooks at the other end of the spectrum. But at least it is a foil that can raise questions. Skepticism is healthy. Bigoted denial or gullible acceptance are equally dangerous.                 George M. Carter

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Thank you. I will get the essiac tea for them and investigate the other link. I have seen that the people with HIV have pushed the envelope of the established order and helped open things up for everyone. I have been investigating ozone too. And I am trying using coconut oil instead of the other toxic ones. I think it has boosted my energy level. I am 68 and a retired nurse. I too feel that the disease here is not as bad maybe as the medical makes out as it is one year from the time my daughter was diagnoses and she would be in bad shape now if she had had her thyroid out and been radiated. As it is she is radiant but with a lump in her neck. It is amazing too how these things can heal a family. I am also very sorry if I have offended people on this group as I didn’t realize it had a specific focus. I should have read more. They have both started this 714X which classed as an experimental drug here in Canada after the authorities tried to get rid of it but so many patients supported it that it was allowed under this category. I was hoping to get feedback from others who might have used it.  I have also heard that it is very good for the immune system, but they are not allowed to make any claims for it. I was hoping to hear from anyone who has used it. It is not too expensive and costs $100.Canadian for every 21 days. The best of all things to you, Lydia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a husband and a daughter with cancer. They are both feeling well, as they have rejected medical intervension. My husband has been on chinese herbs for several years but as these only hold the desease not cure it he is now trying 714X as is my daughter with thyroid cancer. Has anyone any experience with this product? Also I was amazed to cure my very irregular heart. I am in good health and 67 yrs old, but a few months ago my heart beats became very soggy and very irregular. My friend also an old nurse has done a lot of electro acupuncture thought it might be because of back spasm and sure enough when she got out my spasms my heart beat became regular. I had been to a cardiologist who tested me and didn’t know what the problem was but had told me it was benign. Lydia Very interesting to hear of your success with those treatments. Of course the medicos are completely hopeless when it comes to chronic disease, but are good at emergencies – ie antibiotics, surgery, emergency drugs and transfusions etc. Personally that’s all I ever use them for. I don’t know if you’ve heard of a herbal formula called "Essiac" or Caisse’s tea (essiac is caisse backwards, who was the originator of the remedy). This is a specific for Cancer (and also Lupus and is good for many other things) and I’ve personally seen dramatic results from its use. It’s available in many health food shops in the US. If you can’t find it you can mix up your own, it’s just 4 herbs, or order it online – eg from http://www.natheal.demon.co.uk/00essiac.htm Fresh vegetable juices from a juicer seem also very powerful against cancers. Might also be worth looking at the suggestions of  the "study group for AIDS therapy" since they believe that so-called AIDS and cancer have basically the same causes. http://www.polder.net/aids/data2/ahrecom.htm  - worth a read. Two of the main things they recommend are agar agar and whey. I believe that many cancers are probably not that serious if we knew more about them – which the medical industry is in my opinion preventing by their simplistic obsession with highly profitable pharmaceutical solutions.

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I have a husband and a daughter with cancer. They are both feeling well, as they have rejected medical intervension. My husband has been on chinese herbs for several years but as these only hold the desease not cure it he is now trying 714X as is my daughter with thyroid cancer. Has anyone any experience with this product? Also I was amazed to cure my very irregular heart. I am in good health and 67 yrs old, but a few months ago my heart beats became very soggy and very irregular. My friend also an old nurse has done a lot of electro acupuncture thought it might be because of back spasm and sure enough when she got out my spasms my heart beat became regular. I had been to a cardiologist who tested me and didn’t know what the problem was but had told me it was benign. Lydia

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I have a husband and a daughter with cancer. They are both feeling well, as they have rejected medical intervension. My husband has been on chinese herbs for several years but as these only hold the desease not cure it he is now trying 714X as is my daughter with thyroid cancer. Has anyone any experience with this product? Also I was amazed to cure my very irregular heart. I am in good health and 67 yrs old, but a few months ago my heart beats became very soggy and very irregular. My friend also an old nurse has done a lot of electro acupuncture thought it might be because of back spasm and sure enough when she got out my spasms my heart beat became regular. I had been to a cardiologist who tested me and didn’t know what the problem was but had told me it was benign. Lydia

Very interesting to hear of your success with those treatments. Of course the medicos are completely hopeless when it comes to chronic disease, but are good at emergencies – ie antibiotics, surgery, emergency drugs and transfusions etc. Personally that’s all I ever use them for. I don’t know if you’ve heard of a herbal formula called "Essiac" or Caisse’s tea (essiac is caisse backwards, who was the originator of the remedy). This is a specific for Cancer (and also Lupus and is good for many other things) and I’ve personally seen dramatic results from its use. It’s available in many health food shops in the US. If you can’t find it you can mix up your own, it’s just 4 herbs, or order it online – eg from http://www.natheal.demon.co.uk/00essiac.htm Fresh vegetable juices from a juicer seem also very powerful against cancers. Might also be worth looking at the suggestions of  the "study group for AIDS therapy" since they believe that so-called AIDS and cancer have basically the same causes. http://www.polder.net/aids/data2/ahrecom.htm  - worth a read. Two of the main things they recommend are agar agar and whey. I believe that many cancers are probably not that serious if we knew more about them – which the medical industry is in my opinion preventing by their simplistic obsession with highly profitable pharmaceutical solutions.

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I have a husband and a daughter with cancer.

misc.health.aids is an AIDS forum not a thyroid cancer forum. Ask your question on alt.support.cancer for best results.

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