REQ: Recommendations for a colon cleansing kit.

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The American Medical Association has not carried out one study on the effectiveness of colon cleansing as a therapy. Not one. This is a misleading statement. The AMA is a professional organization, not a research organization. They don’t perform studies on any therapies.

"Emilio" is a self-professed troll, who has gone under other aliases, including Ewan Jackson and Jerome Gregory. http://www.google.com/groups?selm=e6c5ec39.0305210158.5a19e393%40posting. google.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain I’m now betting he’s probably also "The Inquisitive Colon" ‘nym who started this thread. — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"

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Well then Andrew, We will all report Mr Peter Bowditch for his commercial begging sites also. Difference is that Jan posts useful information.

ROTFLMAO! Jan? "Useful information"? ROTLFMAO!!!! — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"

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http://www.drclark.net/info/bowel.htm The Bowel Program [As in "The Cure For All Cancers", 1998 edition]

Congratulations !!! You just earned a complaint. "I can dance on the head of a pin as well" -Yoshimo

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The American Medical Association has not carried out one study on the effectiveness of colon cleansing as a therapy. Not one.

This is a misleading statement. The AMA is a professional organization, not a research organization. They don’t perform studies on any therapies.

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Hmmm. Doctors don’t want to find "a cure"? Gee don’t doctors ever get sick? Don’t their spouses ever get sick? Don’t their children ever get sick? What about their parents & siblings? How about their best friends? Do all physicians/health care professionals & their loved ones live in a "health vacuum" where cures are personally unnecessary? Now you’re getting it. Doctors are so evil, and so wedded to the Conspiracy, that they gladly sacrifice their own lives and the lives of their loved ones, just to keep up the sham. [In a modified version of this, doctors are not evil, but are merely the dupes and pawns of the Evil Medical Overlords -- who are the ones who gladly sacrifice etc etc etc]

There is great honor in taking a hit for the team! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – – David Wright

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Very, very true. Jan I have done some extensive searching and found very little useful information regarding colon cleansing. Most of what I’ve found are sites trying to sell a certain kit. That should tell you something right there. Can anyone recommend a brand or program for colon cleansing? I am not interested in colonics – yet. I am simply looking for an herbal cleansing kit – and information regarding when I should take the supplements (with or without food?), what I can expect (especially in the way it might impact my running), and if I should take any additional supplements to counter any minerals/nutrients lost during the cleansing. I recently bought Triple Cleanse from GNC. However, there was *very* little documentation – just a few paragraphs on the box itself and no instructions inside. I’ve also seen that some people are aggressively and irrationally against colon cleansing (almost to the point of it being a personal crusade). I’ve seen far more people who are aggressively and irrationally FOR colon cleansing TO the point of its being a personal crusade. Triple Cleanse from GNC is an excellent product and, when used correctly, can reverse the harmful effects of cancer. If you’re one of those people, please move on to the next thread – I do not want my thread to become your personal battleground. A better reason is that you appear to have closed your mind to anything that doesn’t jibe with your apparent belief in such nonsense as colon cleansing. The American Medical Association has not carried out one study on the effectiveness of colon cleansing as a therapy. Not one. There is an extraordinary reluctance on the part of the AMA to investigate alternative therapies – why? Because they don’t want to find a cure. And why is that? Because serious illnesses are a multi-trillion dollar industry and finding an effective remedy will wipe out a lucrative market. It makes much more economic sense to sell therapies to patients that don’t work (eg chemotherapy which most doctors ADMIT won’t cure cancer in 95% of cases). Jan is apparently disappointed that the post on colonic irrigation didn’t provoke enough reaction for her to vent some good old alt.med spleen on.

Umm, from the words very very true, you got all that?? Amazing! Jan

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well then Andrew, We will all report Mr Peter Bowditch for his commercial begging sites also. Difference is that Jan posts useful information. Rod. http://www.drcl*rk.nut/info/Jan’sBowelsRunWithDelight.htm The Bowel Program [As in "The Cure For All C*ncers", 1998 edition] Everyone, it is our duty to report Jan for making this commercial post. If we report her each and everytime she violates the newsgroup charter, AOL will intervene.

I see Andrew is up to his usual garbage. Poor guy. Jan

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Excellent points overlooked by Jan Drew.

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http://www.drclark.net/info/bowel.htm

Shilling for Dr. Clark, the internets most notorious quack.

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Now you’re getting it. Doctors are so evil, and so wedded to the Conspiracy, that they gladly sacrifice their own lives and the lives of their loved ones, just to keep up the sham. [In a modified version of this, doctors are not evil, but are merely the dupes and pawns of the Evil Medical Overlords -- who are the ones who gladly sacrifice etc etc etc] — David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Very, very true. Jan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have done some extensive searching and found very little useful information regarding colon cleansing. Most of what I’ve found are sites trying to sell a certain kit. That should tell you something right there. Can anyone recommend a brand or program for colon cleansing? I am not interested in colonics – yet. I am simply looking for an herbal cleansing kit – and information regarding when I should take the supplements (with or without food?), what I can expect (especially in the way it might impact my running), and if I should take any additional supplements to counter any minerals/nutrients lost during the cleansing. I recently bought Triple Cleanse from GNC. However, there was *very* little documentation – just a few paragraphs on the box itself and no instructions inside. I’ve also seen that some people are aggressively and irrationally against colon cleansing (almost to the point of it being a personal crusade). I’ve seen far more people who are aggressively and irrationally FOR colon cleansing TO the point of its being a personal crusade. Triple Cleanse from GNC is an excellent product and, when used correctly, can reverse the harmful effects of cancer. If you’re one of those people, please move on to the next thread – I do not want my thread to become your personal battleground. A better reason is that you appear to have closed your mind to anything that doesn’t jibe with your apparent belief in such nonsense as colon cleansing. The American Medical Association has not carried out one study on the effectiveness of colon cleansing as a therapy. Not one. There is an extraordinary reluctance on the part of the AMA to investigate alternative therapies – why? Because they don’t want to find a cure. And why is that? Because serious illnesses are a multi-trillion dollar industry and finding an effective remedy will wipe out a lucrative market. It makes much more economic sense to sell therapies to patients that don’t work (eg chemotherapy which most doctors ADMIT won’t cure cancer in 95% of cases). E.

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http://www.drcl*rk.nut/info/Jan’sBowelsRunWithDelight.htm The Bowel Program [As in "The Cure For All C*ncers", 1998 edition]

Everyone, it is our duty to report Jan for making this commercial post. If we report her each and everytime she violates the newsgroup charter, AOL will intervene. Besides, her behavior runs afoul of the MHA 10 Commandments, which must be eternally vigilant in enforcing.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have done some extensive searching and found very little useful information regarding colon cleansing. Most of what I’ve found are sites trying to sell a certain kit. That should tell you something right there. Can anyone recommend a brand or program for colon cleansing? I am not interested in colonics – yet. I am simply looking for an herbal cleansing kit – and information regarding when I should take the supplements (with or without food?), what I can expect (especially in the way it might impact my running), and if I should take any additional supplements to counter any minerals/nutrients lost during the cleansing. I recently bought Triple Cleanse from GNC. However, there was *very* little documentation – just a few paragraphs on the box itself and no instructions inside. I’ve also seen that some people are aggressively and irrationally against colon cleansing (almost to the point of it being a personal crusade). I’ve seen far more people who are aggressively and irrationally FOR colon cleansing TO the point of its being a personal crusade.

Triple Cleanse from GNC is an excellent product and, when used correctly, can reverse the harmful effects of cancer. If you’re one of those people, please move on to the next thread – I do not want my thread to become your personal battleground. A better reason is that you appear to have closed your mind to anything that doesn’t jibe with your apparent belief in such nonsense as colon cleansing.

The American Medical Association has not carried out one study on the effectiveness of colon cleansing as a therapy. Not one. There is an extraordinary reluctance on the part of the AMA to investigate alternative therapies – why? Because they don’t want to find a cure. And why is that? Because serious illnesses are a multi-trillion dollar industry and finding an effective remedy will wipe out a lucrative market. It makes much more economic sense to sell therapies to patients that don’t work (eg chemotherapy which most doctors ADMIT won’t cure cancer in 95% of cases). E.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have done some extensive searching and found very little useful information regarding colon cleansing. Most of what I’ve found are sites trying to sell a certain kit. That should tell you something right there. Can anyone recommend a brand or program for colon cleansing? I am not interested in colonics – yet. I am simply looking for an herbal cleansing kit – and information regarding when I should take the supplements (with or without food?), what I can expect (especially in the way it might impact my running), and if I should take any additional supplements to counter any minerals/nutrients lost during the cleansing. I recently bought Triple Cleanse from GNC. However, there was *very* little documentation – just a few paragraphs on the box itself and no instructions inside. I’ve also seen that some people are aggressively and irrationally against colon cleansing (almost to the point of it being a personal crusade). I’ve seen far more people who are aggressively and irrationally FOR colon cleansing TO the point of its being a personal crusade. Triple Cleanse from GNC is an excellent product and, when used correctly, can reverse the harmful effects of cancer.

Thbe lawyers at GNC are way to smart to allow the company to make such a claim. If you’re one of those people, please move on to the next thread – I do not want my thread to become your personal battleground. A better reason is that you appear to have closed your mind to anything that doesn’t jibe with your apparent belief in such nonsense as colon cleansing. The American Medical Association has not carried out one study on the effectiveness of colon cleansing as a therapy. Not one.

The AMA does not carry out studies. Those who make claims for their effectivieness for some problem are the ones who are obligated to carry out the studies. However, they have not done so. Do you wonder why? I don’t. They know their claims are utter balderdash and do not want to hurt their buiness. There is an extraordinary reluctance on the part of the AMA to investigate alternative therapies – why? Because they don’t want to find a cure.

Bullshit. Firstly, there is NCAAM which makes taxpayer money available to those who wish to carry out studies of their alternative therapies. Thus, when studies are not carried out, it is logically permissible to infer that those who are making the claims are afraid of the results. And why is that? Because serious illnesses are a multi-trillion dollar industry and finding an effective remedy will wipe out a lucrative market.

Bullshit. It makes much more economic sense to sell therapies to patients that don’t work (eg chemotherapy which most doctors ADMIT won’t cure cancer in 95% of cases).

Again, more bullshit. "Most doctors" do not admit such a thing. If they did, since most is 50%, the AMA would ber doing as you suggest.

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Well then Andrew, We will all report Mr Peter Bowditch for his commercial begging sites also. Difference is that Jan posts useful information. Rod.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.drcl*rk.nut/info/Jan’sBowelsRunWithDelight.htm The Bowel Program [As in "The Cure For All C*ncers", 1998 edition] Everyone, it is our duty to report Jan for making this commercial post. If we report her each and everytime she violates the newsgroup charter, AOL will intervene. Besides, her behavior runs afoul of the MHA 10 Commandments, which must be eternally vigilant in enforcing.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Very, very true. Jan I have done some extensive searching and found very little useful information regarding colon cleansing. Most of what I’ve found are sites trying to sell a certain kit. That should tell you something right there. Can anyone recommend a brand or program for colon cleansing? I am not interested in colonics – yet. I am simply looking for an herbal cleansing kit – and information regarding when I should take the supplements (with or without food?), what I can expect (especially in the way it might impact my running), and if I should take any additional supplements to counter any minerals/nutrients lost during the cleansing. I recently bought Triple Cleanse from GNC. However, there was *very* little documentation – just a few paragraphs on the box itself and no instructions inside. I’ve also seen that some people are aggressively and irrationally against colon cleansing (almost to the point of it being a personal crusade). I’ve seen far more people who are aggressively and irrationally FOR colon cleansing TO the point of its being a personal crusade. Triple Cleanse from GNC is an excellent product and, when used correctly, can reverse the harmful effects of cancer. If you’re one of those people, please move on to the next thread – I do not want my thread to become your personal battleground. A better reason is that you appear to have closed your mind to anything that doesn’t jibe with your apparent belief in such nonsense as colon cleansing. The American Medical Association has not carried out one study on the effectiveness of colon cleansing as a therapy. Not one. There is an extraordinary reluctance on the part of the AMA to investigate alternative therapies – why? Because they don’t want to find a cure. And why is that? Because serious illnesses are a multi-trillion dollar industry and finding an effective remedy will wipe out a lucrative market. It makes much more economic sense to sell therapies to patients that don’t work (eg chemotherapy which most doctors ADMIT won’t cure cancer in 95% of cases).

Jan is apparently disappointed that the post on colonic irrigation didn’t provoke enough reaction for her to vent some good old alt.med spleen on. Here you go Jan! A response to the above. Go and learn some medical history!!. The mainstream invented colonic irrigation. Purgation and enemas were are huge component of Western medicine from the time of Hippocrates and before, until colonic physiology and the pathology and real causation of many illnesses that were supposedly due to bowel dysfunction began to be understood. Early last century colectomy was even quite popular for vague illnesses such as neurasthenia because of supposed colonic autointoxication. I have mentioned here before a surgeon by the name of Arbuthnot Lane who was reputed to have removed enough colons to stretch from London to Liverpool! Colonic cleansers can’t even do it right. We surgeons previously used irrigation as a means of clearing faeces out of the colon before operation, but it is a very inefficient way of cleaning out the colon, especially in anyone who actually has a tendency to constipation and thus might according to alt.med theory be more in need of it. And that is with experienced and well-trained nurses, a standard of attention and safety that you will not find readily within AM. We now use methods that actually do mostly give a completely clean bowel but they are not suitable for regular use. There is absolutely no body of evidence supporting this practice. Peter Moran – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – E.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have done some extensive searching and found very little useful information regarding colon cleansing. Most of what I’ve found are sites trying to sell a certain kit. Can anyone recommend a brand or program for colon cleansing? I am not interested in colonics – yet. I am simply looking for an herbal cleansing kit – and information regarding when I should take the supplements (with or without food?), what I can expect (especially in the way it might impact my running), and if I should take any additional supplements to counter any minerals/nutrients lost during the cleansing. I recently bought Triple Cleanse from GNC. However, there was *very* little documentation – just a few paragraphs on the box itself and no instructions inside. I’ve also seen that some people are aggressively and irrationally against colon cleansing (almost to the point of it being a personal crusade). If you’re one of those people, please move on to the next thread – I do not want my thread to become your personal battleground.

http://www.drclark.net/info/bowel.htm The Bowel Program [As in "The Cure For All Cancers", 1998 edition] Bacteria are always at the root of bowel problems, such as pain, bloating and gassiness. They can not be killed by zapping, because the high frequency current does not penetrate the bowel contents. Although most bowel bacteria are beneficial, the ones that are not, like Salmonella, Shigella, and Clostridiums are extremely detrimental because they have the ability to invade the rest of your body and colonize a trauma site or tumorous organ. These same bacteria colonize a can-cer tumor and prevent shrinking after the malignancy is stopped. One reason bowel bacteria are so hard to eradicate is that we are constantly reinfecting our-selves by keeping a reservoir on our hands and under our fingernails. So the first thing to do is improve sanitation. Use 50% grain alcohol in a spray bottle at the bathroom sink. Sterilize your hands after bathroom use and before meals. Second, use betaine hydrochloride to kill Clostridium bacteria (2 tablets 3 times a day). Third, use turmeric (2 capsules 3 times a day, this is the common spice) which I find helps against Shigella, as well as E. coli. Expect orange colored stool. Fourth, use fennel (2 capsules 3 times a day). Fifth, use digestive enzyme tablets with meals as directed on the bottle. (But only as long as necessary, because these frequently harbor molds.) Sixth, use a single 2 tsp. Dose of Black Walnut Hull Tincture Extra Strength. Add it to

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