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are you cooking it in oil ? frying it ? this would increase free radical load! therefore you would need more zinc and vit E. fresh tofu lightly steamed at the end of steaming your vegetables should be ok. huge numbers of asian people have beautiful strong hair and eat tofu regularly. Sorry,I am not asian.I’m from holland.Asians get strong hear and no

Alzheimer from tofu.Maybe I  shall loose my hair and get Alzheimer too! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Frying in olive oil is ok.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – are you cooking it in oil ? frying it ? this would increase free radical load! therefore you would need more zinc and vit E. fresh tofu lightly steamed at the end of steaming your vegetables should be ok. huge numbers of asian people have beautiful strong hair and eat tofu regularly. Ian Goddard heeft geschreven in bericht  A second article in another Hawaiian paper on the tofu  study has been located. The papers published follow-ups  that sought to allay concerns about tofu, raising points  from the need for more research before coming to definitive  conclusions (obviously) to harming local tofu businesses.  Here are the articles I’ve found on the tofu study:  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/22/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/24/news/story5.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/20/localnews3.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/26/localnews3.html  I contacted a researcher in a study I quoted showing that  the soy phytochemical genistein killed testicular cells.  I asked if those cells were normal or cancerous. He said  they were altered, but in other studies he has and/or is  working on, genistein is found to kill normal testicular  cells, yet increase their proliferation at lower doses.  While healthy folks may not need chemicals increasing  or decreasing the number of their cells, that evidence  suggests that if there’s a toxic level, there may also  be a safe and possibly beneficial level of soy. With  respect to reducing rates of cancer and other major  illness, research suggests that soy works. The FDA  recently approved the use of health claims on soy  products.[*] PubMed searches find numerous studies  (see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed) over the  years that demonstrate an anti-cancer effect of soy  phytochemicals, and their cytotoxic effect appears  generally to be highly specific to cancer cells.  Of course, the possibility of a risk of brain atrophy  is not to be taken lightly. Of all organs, the brain  is arguably the most valuable and important to preserve.  [*] http://soy.com/Soy_Information/News/newfdaclaim/newfdaclaim.html  IS SOY SAFE?: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm GODDARD’S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm Maybe totally irrelevant personal remark:I eat tofu not for a very long time,because they say it’s so healthy.From tofu i’ve got a very dry headskin and lots and lots of dandruff.Are there more cases like me? Hey Joe, I think some people suffer a  "very dry head skin and lots of

dandruff"  Thats why stores sell medicated shampoos for all people, Vegetarian or not. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – are you cooking it in oil ? frying it ? this would increase free radical load! therefore you would need more zinc and vit E. fresh tofu lightly steamed at the end of steaming your vegetables should be ok. huge numbers of asian people have beautiful strong hair and eat tofu regularly. Ian Goddard heeft geschreven in bericht  A second article in another Hawaiian paper on the tofu  study has been located. The papers published follow-ups  that sought to allay concerns about tofu, raising points  from the need for more research before coming to definitive  conclusions (obviously) to harming local tofu businesses.  Here are the articles I’ve found on the tofu study:  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/22/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/24/news/story5.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/20/localnews3.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/26/localnews3.html  I contacted a researcher in a study I quoted showing that  the soy phytochemical genistein killed testicular cells.  I asked if those cells were normal or cancerous. He said  they were altered, but in other studies he has and/or is  working on, genistein is found to kill normal testicular  cells, yet increase their proliferation at lower doses.  While healthy folks may not need chemicals increasing  or decreasing the number of their cells, that evidence  suggests that if there’s a toxic level, there may also  be a safe and possibly beneficial level of soy. With  respect to reducing rates of cancer and other major  illness, research suggests that soy works. The FDA  recently approved the use of health claims on soy  products.[*] PubMed searches find numerous studies  (see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed) over the  years that demonstrate an anti-cancer effect of soy  phytochemicals, and their cytotoxic effect appears  generally to be highly specific to cancer cells.  Of course, the possibility of a risk of brain atrophy  is not to be taken lightly. Of all organs, the brain  is arguably the most valuable and important to preserve.  [*] http://soy.com/Soy_Information/News/newfdaclaim/newfdaclaim.html  IS SOY SAFE?: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm GODDARD’S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm Maybe totally irrelevant personal remark:I eat tofu not for a very long time,because they say it’s so healthy.From tofu i’ve got a very dry headskin and lots and lots of dandruff.Are there more cases like me? It’s one thing when the general public falls for the "video news

release" touting some new theory or study and embracing it as if it is the definitive answer. It is another when people whom I assume have a hand in science and nutrition fall for the same crap as many do here. Science has become irresponsible and economically oriented and many idiots fall for the hoopla every time. As the commentary by Nobel laureate Joseph Rotblat says in the journal Science, scientists needs to begin to act responsibly. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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are you cooking it in oil ? frying it ? this would increase free radical load! therefore you would need more zinc and vit E. fresh tofu lightly steamed at the end of steaming your vegetables should be ok. huge numbers of asian people have beautiful strong hair and eat tofu regularly. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ian Goddard heeft geschreven in bericht  A second article in another Hawaiian paper on the tofu  study has been located. The papers published follow-ups  that sought to allay concerns about tofu, raising points  from the need for more research before coming to definitive  conclusions (obviously) to harming local tofu businesses.  Here are the articles I’ve found on the tofu study:  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/22/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/24/news/story5.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/20/localnews3.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/26/localnews3.html  I contacted a researcher in a study I quoted showing that  the soy phytochemical genistein killed testicular cells.  I asked if those cells were normal or cancerous. He said  they were altered, but in other studies he has and/or is  working on, genistein is found to kill normal testicular  cells, yet increase their proliferation at lower doses.  While healthy folks may not need chemicals increasing  or decreasing the number of their cells, that evidence  suggests that if there’s a toxic level, there may also  be a safe and possibly beneficial level of soy. With  respect to reducing rates of cancer and other major  illness, research suggests that soy works. The FDA  recently approved the use of health claims on soy  products.[*] PubMed searches find numerous studies  (see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed) over the  years that demonstrate an anti-cancer effect of soy  phytochemicals, and their cytotoxic effect appears  generally to be highly specific to cancer cells.  Of course, the possibility of a risk of brain atrophy  is not to be taken lightly. Of all organs, the brain  is arguably the most valuable and important to preserve.  [*] http://soy.com/Soy_Information/News/newfdaclaim/newfdaclaim.html  IS SOY SAFE?: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm GODDARD’S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm Maybe totally irrelevant personal remark:I eat tofu not for a very long time,because they say it’s so healthy.From tofu i’ve got a very dry headskin and lots and lots of dandruff.Are there more cases like me?

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are you cooking it in oil ? frying it ? this would increase free radical load! therefore you would need more zinc and vit E. fresh tofu lightly steamed at the end of steaming your vegetables should be ok. huge numbers of asian people have beautiful strong hair and eat tofu regularly.

Frying in olive oil is ok.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ian Goddard heeft geschreven in bericht  A second article in another Hawaiian paper on the tofu  study has been located. The papers published follow-ups  that sought to allay concerns about tofu, raising points  from the need for more research before coming to definitive  conclusions (obviously) to harming local tofu businesses.  Here are the articles I’ve found on the tofu study:  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/22/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/24/news/story5.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/20/localnews3.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/26/localnews3.html  I contacted a researcher in a study I quoted showing that  the soy phytochemical genistein killed testicular cells.  I asked if those cells were normal or cancerous. He said  they were altered, but in other studies he has and/or is  working on, genistein is found to kill normal testicular  cells, yet increase their proliferation at lower doses.  While healthy folks may not need chemicals increasing  or decreasing the number of their cells, that evidence  suggests that if there’s a toxic level, there may also  be a safe and possibly beneficial level of soy. With  respect to reducing rates of cancer and other major  illness, research suggests that soy works. The FDA  recently approved the use of health claims on soy  products.[*] PubMed searches find numerous studies  (see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed) over the  years that demonstrate an anti-cancer effect of soy  phytochemicals, and their cytotoxic effect appears  generally to be highly specific to cancer cells.  Of course, the possibility of a risk of brain atrophy  is not to be taken lightly. Of all organs, the brain  is arguably the most valuable and important to preserve.  [*] http://soy.com/Soy_Information/News/newfdaclaim/newfdaclaim.html  IS SOY SAFE?: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm GODDARD’S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm Maybe totally irrelevant personal remark:I eat tofu not for a very long time,because they say it’s so healthy.From tofu i’ve got a very dry headskin and lots and lots of dandruff.Are there more cases like me? It’s one thing when the general public falls for the "video news release"

touting some new theory or study and embracing it as if it is the definitive answer. It is another when people whom I assume have a hand in science and nutrition fall for the same crap as many do here. Science has become irresponsible and economically oriented and many idiots fall for the hoopla every time. As the commentary by Nobel laureate Joseph Rotblat says in the journal Science, scientists needs to begin to act responsibly. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Ian Goddard heeft geschreven in bericht – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  A second article in another Hawaiian paper on the tofu  study has been located. The papers published follow-ups  that sought to allay concerns about tofu, raising points  from the need for more research before coming to definitive  conclusions (obviously) to harming local tofu businesses.  Here are the articles I’ve found on the tofu study:  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/22/news/story4.html  http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/24/news/story5.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/20/localnews3.html  http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/26/localnews3.html  I contacted a researcher in a study I quoted showing that  the soy phytochemical genistein killed testicular cells.  I asked if those cells were normal or cancerous. He said  they were altered, but in other studies he has and/or is  working on, genistein is found to kill normal testicular  cells, yet increase their proliferation at lower doses.  While healthy folks may not need chemicals increasing  or decreasing the number of their cells, that evidence  suggests that if there’s a toxic level, there may also  be a safe and possibly beneficial level of soy. With  respect to reducing rates of cancer and other major  illness, research suggests that soy works. The FDA  recently approved the use of health claims on soy  products.[*] PubMed searches find numerous studies  (see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed) over the  years that demonstrate an anti-cancer effect of soy  phytochemicals, and their cytotoxic effect appears  generally to be highly specific to cancer cells.  Of course, the possibility of a risk of brain atrophy  is not to be taken lightly. Of all organs, the brain  is arguably the most valuable and important to preserve.  [*] http://soy.com/Soy_Information/News/newfdaclaim/newfdaclaim.html  IS SOY SAFE?: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm GODDARD’S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm Maybe totally irrelevant personal remark:I eat tofu not for a very long

time,because they say it’s so healthy.From tofu i’ve got a very dry headskin and lots and lots of dandruff.Are there more cases like me? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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  A second article in another Hawaiian paper on the tofu   study has been located. The papers published follow-ups   that sought to allay concerns about tofu, raising points   from the need for more research before coming to definitive   conclusions (obviously) to harming local tofu businesses.   Here are the articles I’ve found on the tofu study:

It’s one thing when the general public falls for the "video news release" touting some new theory or study and embracing it as if it is the definitive answer. It is another when people whom I assume have a hand in science and nutrition fall for the same crap as many do here. Science has become irresponsible and economically oriented and many idiots fall for the hoopla every time. As the commentary by Nobel laureate Joseph Rotblat says in the journal Science, scientists needs to begin to act responsibly.

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Science  and   Nature   journals  have  turned    down  the  researchers request  to publish their  findings on  tofu. ITS NO WONDER!

   IAN: The second part of the sentence you refer to said    it was rejected "mostly because the study is not of wide    appeal for their readers, said fellow researcher Petrovich."    None of the material reported argues that the study is flawed. GODDARD’S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm

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[for about the third time]: Science  and   Nature   journals  have  turned    down  the  researchers request  to publish their  findings on  tofu.

Of course they have.  Tofu doesn’t take ink very well.  If they were to try to publish on paper, the odds of success would rise sharply.   — David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      "What would Brian Boitano do?"  – Kyle, Stan, and Cartman

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Science  and   Nature   journals  have  turned    down  the  researchers request  to publish their  findings on  tofu. ITS NO WONDER!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   A second article in another Hawaiian paper on the tofu   study has been located. The papers published follow-ups   that sought to allay concerns about tofu, raising points   from the need for more research before coming to definitive   conclusions (obviously) to harming local tofu businesses.   Here are the articles I’ve found on the tofu study:   http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html   http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/22/news/story4.html   http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/24/news/story5.html   http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/20/localnews3.html   http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/26/localnews3.html   I contacted a researcher in a study I quoted showing that   the soy phytochemical genistein killed testicular cells.   I asked if those cells were normal or cancerous. He said   they were altered, but in other studies he has and/or is   working on, genistein is found to kill normal testicular   cells, yet increase their proliferation at lower doses.   While healthy folks may not need chemicals increasing   or decreasing the number of their cells, that evidence   suggests that if there’s a toxic level, there may also   be a safe and possibly beneficial level of soy. With   respect to reducing rates of cancer and other major   illness, research suggests that soy works. The FDA   recently approved the use of health claims on soy   products.[*] PubMed searches find numerous studies   (see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed) over the   years that demonstrate an anti-cancer effect of soy   phytochemicals, and their cytotoxic effect appears   generally to be highly specific to cancer cells.   Of course, the possibility of a risk of brain atrophy   is not to be taken lightly. Of all organs, the brain   is arguably the most valuable and important to preserve.   [*] http://soy.com/Soy_Information/News/newfdaclaim/newfdaclaim.html   IS SOY SAFE?: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm GODDARD’S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm Science  and   Nature   journals  have  turned    down  the  researchers

request  to publish their  findings on  tofu. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Science  and   Nature   journals  have  turned    down  the  researchers request  to publish their  findings on  tofu. ITS NO WONDER!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   A second article in another Hawaiian paper on the tofu   study has been located. The papers published follow-ups   that sought to allay concerns about tofu, raising points   from the need for more research before coming to definitive   conclusions (obviously) to harming local tofu businesses.   Here are the articles I’ve found on the tofu study:   http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html   http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/22/news/story4.html   http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/24/news/story5.html   http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/20/localnews3.html   http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/1999/Nov/26/localnews3.html   I contacted a researcher in a study I quoted showing that   the soy phytochemical genistein killed testicular cells.   I asked if those cells were normal or cancerous. He said   they were altered, but in other studies he has and/or is   working on, genistein is found to kill normal testicular   cells, yet increase their proliferation at lower doses.   While healthy folks may not need chemicals increasing   or decreasing the number of their cells, that evidence   suggests that if there’s a toxic level, there may also   be a safe and possibly beneficial level of soy. With   respect to reducing rates of cancer and other major   illness, research suggests that soy works. The FDA   recently approved the use of health claims on soy   products.[*] PubMed searches find numerous studies   (see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed) over the   years that demonstrate an anti-cancer effect of soy   phytochemicals, and their cytotoxic effect appears   generally to be highly specific to cancer cells.   Of course, the possibility of a risk of brain atrophy   is not to be taken lightly. Of all organs, the brain   is arguably the most valuable and important to preserve.   [*] http://soy.com/Soy_Information/News/newfdaclaim/newfdaclaim.html   IS SOY SAFE?: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm GODDARD’S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm   Science  and   Nature   journals  have  turned    down  the  researchers

request  to publish their  findings on  tofu. ITS NO WONDER! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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