Talk Cancer » Cancer Cells » Communist Holocaust Has Killed Over 100 Million People R_0923
Communist Holocaust Has Killed Over 100 Million People R_0923
Question:
LISTEN TO THIS CAREFULLY: " No eyes have seen – No ears have heard – Man cannot begin to imagine – What God has prepared for them that love Him. " 1Corinthians 2:9. Does that speak for itself, or do I have to break it down for anyone? Do you agree with it?
It isn’t a matter of agreement, it is a matter of trust. How can you trust someone who basically says, "For god so loved the world, that He will fry you to a crisp, if you don’t believe that He so loved the world." How can you trust someone who abandons his creation like only a deadbeat Father would? How can you trust someone who values a pagan sacrifice above mercy? How can you trust someone who basically says, "You have a choice: love me now or I will kill you! Which choice will it be, punk? Go ahead and make my eternity!". Of course, Heaven and Hell are not a choice, but an ultimatum. The big question is: Does that apply to every single person on earth, or are there exceptions to the case??? Now, let us see if you agree with the NEXT verse: "But, God has revealed them ( verse 9 ) to us – by His Spirit – for the Spirit searches everything – yes, even the deep things of God." 2:10. So now, this begs the question to one and all who claim to be indwelt by the Spirit of God: Have you seen what no one in this world has seen, or heard, or even imagined; what God has prepared for us, His children??? Have you?
Well? If you can, then you also understand what I am asserting. If you can’t, then you should be concerned about your position in Christ. Unless, of course, you are a babe in Christ, and need to grow some more.
…or if you a person of moral character cannot be bribed, cannot be bought for any price, and who’s soul is not for sale to the highest bidder. Nevertheless, it is crystal clear to anyone who can read, that God has revealed to us, the "saints", ( for that is who is inferred ), what the world cannot know anything about; what they can’t even conjure up; what their eyes could never see. SEE 2Cor. 4:18. What does that say? For further confirmation on what I am impressing upon you, we only need to see verses 12-13 : "Now we have NOT received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit Who is from God, that we may KNOW the things that God has freely given us. AND THESE ARE WHAT WE ARE SPEAKING. Not with words taught by humans, but by that which the Holy Spirit teaches; declaring Spiritual things through spiritual methods ( His Word ). " Does that make clear sense to you? Or don’t you understand?
I understand perfectly. You believe you are special and that you have a special purpose in life and a special vision. So why does every single christian in the entire world act the same as the sinners do? There isn’t any special about your and your belief unless you can demonstrate it. It would truly be superfluous for me to make any further comment on those two verses above. For it is an absolute statement, which cannot be refuted.
But your interpretation of it can be refuted. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(Every time I open my mouth and speak of the things that many other Christians have not seen, or attained to, I appear as one who is a candidate for a "Heretic". If I speak to a Christian who has not attained to the things which I have, then I appear to be one who seems to make something of myself (a know it all). They will never allow that one in their midst may be more endowed than they are (not of myself, but of the Holy Spirit.) They will never allow that God DOES call men to preach and teach. A matter for all true Christians to consider.) Those who are truly saints need to give this subject in Corinthians some thought, and assess what, if anything, do you see. i.e. What has the Spirit of God actually revealed to you that has never been seen, never heard of, and beyond the human comprehension of the world??? And if there be anything, have you found a fellow saint that agrees with you; who has also been privileged, to have seen the same??? The next verse, 2:14, is emphatic, and no room for compromise. I use it often. For it saves a lot of energy spent in vain, when trying to convince one who doesn’t have the Spirit of God: "But the man without the Spirit of God cannot receive, or understand the things that come from God, because it’s foolishness to him, and neither can he know them; because they can only be seen by the Spirit of God."
Unfortunately for you, the bible tells us that we can know you by the fruits you bear, whether you have the Spirit or not. I have seen the past history of chrisitianity and the church and the Spirit is not with any of them. Any questions??? Therefore, it is expedient to ascertain whether the one you are engaging in theological matters is indeed possessed of God’s Holy Spirit. Else, you labor in vain, and find yourself going around in circles. Mind you, I am NOT speaking of witnessing to the lost. But how do you find out if the one you are engaging is truly indwelt by the Holy Spirit??? Well, That’s why I left out that verse 11, till now. ( I shall continue to paraphrase, so you can clearly understand this. ) " The only way a man can know the things about a man, is to know the spirit of that man. [ In like manner ] The only way you can know the things about God is to know His Spirit ". Need I say more???
Yes, but since you didn’t say it, I will… "But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit" (Gal 5:18-25) Compare 1John 4:1-6 There is quite a bit, here, to be enlarged upon. If I were preaching I would continue to expound. I have laid a foundation for your consideration. I’ll leave that for you to ponder, and take before the Lord.
You can judge a tree by the fruit it bears and if it bears none, it should be chopped down. The Sage My Home Page : http://members.cox.net/the.sage "The men that American people admire most extravagantly are most daring liars; the men they detest the most violently are those who try to tell them the truth" — H. L. Mencken
Response:
Ben, You seem to be saying that (1) We cannot seek God if left to our own devices, since one can only understand what needs to be sought by the work of the Spirit, and (2) That it is entirely up to God’s discretion who will and will not have such understand extended toward them, and not up to us, and that (3) It is not a matter of rejection, since receiving the Spirit also entails being possessed with the desire to understand, and (4) as a Corollary of 3, we are sustained by the Spirit and not by of our own volition If this sounds like anything you meant to convey, you ought to head on over to alt.christnet.calvinist. You would be welcome there among us Calvinists. And if not, I seriously suggest re-examining the passages about how faith is acheived (Try ephesians 1 and 2). You will discover that these are the ideas that is contained therein. -HG
Response:
What you posted is propaganda and not historical fact…that and the fact that communism no longer exists in the world anymore, anyway. Look at all the wars the USA has taken part of during the last 100 years of history…
Communism no longer exists? Tell that to China, North Korea, Cuba and a bunch of other middlin banana republics. Also tell that to those fighting communist rebels in South america, and the PI.
Response:
Communism never really existed anyway. You think stalin or mao ate and had same privilege as rest? Or communist party member were treated same as rest of population? ….and sad fact is usa is losing democracy Both democrat and republican has to get dirty pac money from same source in order to get elected. Closest thing to communism was probably usa public schools…. But now it is sabotaged by placing retarded children in same class room which prevent teachers from providing higher education due to attention that must be given. This gives kids at private school advantage.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What you posted is propaganda and not historical fact…that and the fact that communism no longer exists in the world anymore, anyway. Look at all the wars the USA has taken part of during the last 100 years of history… Communism no longer exists? Tell that to China, North Korea, Cuba and a bunch of other middlin banana republics. Also tell that to those fighting communist rebels in South america, and the PI.
Response:
LISTEN TO THIS CAREFULLY: " No eyes have seen – No ears have heard – Man cannot begin to imagine – What God has prepared for them that love Him. " 1Corinthians 2:9. Does that speak for itself, or do I have to break it down for anyone?
Yes, if the translation is accurate, and meaningful within the contest of the life-experience of modern reader. Do you agree with it?
This is a loaded question. There are two separate premises. Of course I agree that you can’t imagine something that does not exist, but I don’t know that God has prepared anything unimaginable for us or not. The big question is: Does that apply to every single person on earth, or are there exceptions to the case???
Part 1 is a fiat.. Part two, matter of speculation about God preparing for All, But I believe that anything that God does was meant for All. Now, let us see if you agree with the NEXT verse: " But, God has revealed them ( verse 9 ) to us – by His Spirit – for the Spirit searches everything – yes, even the deep things of God. " 2:10.
No. I don’t believe that God has reavealed these things. So now, this begs the question to one and all who claim to be indwelt by the Spirit of God: Have you seen what no one in this world has seen, or heard, or even imagined; what God has prepared for us, His children???
Neglecting the popular misuse of "beg the question", if a person follows the Scripture literally they MUST have seen this stuff, or be hopefully awaiting the revelation to happen. Have you?
I don’t make your putative claim, so you get a N/A on this one If you can, then you also understand what I am asserting.
What you are asserting makes sense to non claimant-revealation bearers-as well. It makes SENSE, but the logic and Premises are goofy. If you can’t, then you should be concerned about your position in Christ.
You are defining "Position in Christ" according to your own interpretation of Scripture which you believe to be the sole authority in these matters. This amounts to "Becuz *I* sez so!!" Unless, of course, you are a babe in Christ, and need to grow some more.
Fallacy of Excluded Middle Nevertheless, it is crystal clear to anyone who can read, that God has revealed to us, the "saints", ( for that is who is inferred ), what the world cannot know anything about; what they can’t even conjure up; what their eyes could never see.
You left out the main VERB!! Please insert "Know" after "Saints" SEE 2Cor. 4:18. What does that say? For further confirmation on what I am impressing upon you, we only need to see verses 12-13 : " Now we have NOT received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit Who is from God, that we may KNOW the things that God has freely given us. AND THESE ARE WHAT WE ARE SPEAKING. Not with words taught by humans, but by that which the Holy Spirit teaches; declaring Spiritual things through spiritual methods ( His Word ). " Does that make clear sense to you? Or don’t you understand?
Excluded Middle again It makes SENSE, but may follow from false or nonsense premises. It would truly be superfluous for me to make any further comment on those two verses above. For it is an absolute statement, which cannot be
refuted. Except by logic, if one doesn’t believe your premises about Scripture Snip expanded rave. There is quite a bit, here, to be enlarged upon. If I were preaching I would continue to expound. I have laid a foundation for your consideration.
Why, How could Anyone mistake this for preaching?? I’ll leave that for you to ponder, and take before the Lord. Ben
Thanks for the ponderment. Pope Bobby II 69th Clench of the Stark Fist of Removal Reformed Church of the Subgenius.
Response:
LISTEN TO THIS CAREFULLY: " No eyes have seen – No ears have heard – Man cannot begin to imagine – What God has prepared for them that love Him. " 1Corinthians 2:9. Does that speak for itself, or do I have to break it down for anyone? Do you agree with it? The big question is: Does that apply to every single person on earth, or are there exceptions to the case??? Now, let us see if you agree with the NEXT verse: " But, God has revealed them ( verse 9 ) to us – by His Spirit – for the Spirit searches everything – yes, even the deep things of God. " 2:10. So now, this begs the question to one and all who claim to be indwelt by the Spirit of God: Have you seen what no one in this world has seen, or heard, or even imagined; what God has prepared for us, His children??? Have you? If you can, then you also understand what I am asserting. If you can’t, then you should be concerned about your position in Christ. Unless, of course, you are a babe in Christ, and need to grow some more. Nevertheless, it is crystal clear to anyone who can read, that God has revealed to us, the "saints", ( for that is who is inferred ), what the world cannot know anything about; what they can’t even conjure up; what their eyes could never see. SEE 2Cor. 4:18. What does that say? For further confirmation on what I am impressing upon you, we only need to see verses 12-13 : " Now we have NOT received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit Who is from God, that we may KNOW the things that God has freely given us. AND THESE ARE WHAT WE ARE SPEAKING. Not with words taught by humans, but by that which the Holy Spirit teaches; declaring Spiritual things through spiritual methods ( His Word ). " Does that make clear sense to you? Or don’t you understand? It would truly be superfluous for me to make any further comment on those two verses above. For it is an absolute statement, which cannot be refuted. (Every time I open my mouth and speak of the things that many other Christians have not seen, or attained to, I appear as one who is a candidate for a "Heretic". If I speak to a Christian who has not attained to the things which I have, then I appear to be one who seems to make something of myself (a know it all). They will never allow that one in their midst may be more endowed than they are (not of myself, but of the Holy Spirit.) They will never allow that God DOES call men to preach and teach. A matter for all true Christians to consider.) Those who are truly saints need to give this subject in Corinthians some thought, and assess what, if anything, do you see. i.e. What has the Spirit of God actually revealed to you that has never been seen, never heard of, and beyond the human comprehension of the world??? And if there be anything, have you found a fellow saint that agrees with you; who has also been privileged, to have seen the same??? The next verse, 2:14, is emphatic, and no room for compromise. I use it often. For it saves a lot of energy spent in vain, when trying to convince one who doesn’t have the Spirit of God: "But the man without the Spirit of God cannot receive, or understand the things that come from God, because it’s foolishness to him, and neither can he know them; because they can only be seen by the Spirit of God." Any questions??? Therefore, it is expedient to ascertain whether the one you are engaging in theological matters is indeed possessed of God’s Holy Spirit. Else, you labor in vain, and find yourself going around in circles. Mind you, I am NOT speaking of witnessing to the lost. But how do you find out if the one you are engaging is truly indwelt by the Holy Spirit??? Well, That’s why I left out that verse 11, till now. ( I shall continue to paraphrase, so you can clearly understand this. ) " The only way a man can know the things about a man, is to know the spirit of that man. [ In like manner ] The only way you can know the things about God is to know His Spirit ". Need I say more??? Compare 1John 4:1-6 There is quite a bit, here, to be enlarged upon. If I were preaching I would continue to expound. I have laid a foundation for your consideration. I’ll leave that for you to ponder, and take before the Lord. Ben
Response:
What you posted is propaganda and not historical fact…that and the fact that communism no longer exists in the world anymore, anyway. Look at all the wars the USA has taken part of during the last 100 years of history… Communism no longer exists? Tell that to China, North Korea, Cuba and a bunch of other middlin banana republics. Also tell that to those fighting communist rebels in South america, and the PI.
Socialism is not communism. Police States are not communism. Tyrannies are not communism. Please learn the difference. The Sage My Home Page : http://members.cox.net/the.sage "The men that American people admire most extravagantly are most daring liars; the men they detest the most violently are those who try to tell them the truth" — H. L. Mencken
Response:
What you posted is propaganda and not historical fact…that and the fact that communism no longer exists in the world anymore, anyway. Look at all the wars the USA has taken part of during the last 100 years of history… Boxer Rebellion (1899-1901) Contra Rebellion (1981-90) Colombia (1970s, 1980s, 90s) El Salvador (1979-92) Korean War (1950-53) Rwanda and Burundi (1959-95) Vietnam War (1960-75) Afghanistan (1979-2001) Iran-Iraq War (1980-88) Gulf War I Gulf War II Grenada Island First World War (1914-18) Second World War (1937-45) Now take a look at it’s history of civil rights violations… 1931 Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations infects human subjects with cancer cells 1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and are used as human guinea pigs to study the disease 1935 The Pellagra Incident. The U.S. Public Health Service admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black populations. 1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease. 1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen 1943 In response to Japan’s full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD. 1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite. 1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. 1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon using human subjects with or without their knowledge. 1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in the Four Corners area and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates. 1950 In an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Franciso. 1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii. 1953 Project MKULTRA. Six of the subprojects involved testing drugs and biological agents on unwitting human beings. 1955 The CIA releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army’s biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl as a test 1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects. 1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin 1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system 1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation. 1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental. 1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and scientists who had performed human medical experiments salaries and immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare research. (source derived from http://www.healthnewsnet.com/humanexperiments.html) And then of course there was America’s version of Tiananmen Square: Kent State. The Sage My Home Page : http://members.cox.net/the.sage "The men that American people admire most extravagantly are most daring liars; the men they detest the most violently are those who try to tell them the truth" — H. L. Mencken
Response:
Prologue: "For pure murderous evil, there has never been a force to compare with Communism. The Nazis didn’t come close. The Holocaust was uniquely malignant – never before or since did one people construct a vast industry of death for the sole purpose of rounding up and destroying every single member of another people. But the Nazis exterminated 11 million innocents; the Communist death toll surpasses 100 million." Jeff Jacoby http://www.physics.ncat.edu/~michael/vses/eth4000/victim.html Link active June 22, 2003. Archived locally as: eth4000_victim) TO THE VICTIMS OF COMMUNISM, LEST WE FORGET By Jeff Jacoby The Boston Globe December 7, 1995 TO THE VICTIMS OF COMMUNISM, LEST WE FORGET By Jeff Jacoby The Boston Globe December 7, 1995 In 1993, President Clinton signed Public Law 103-199, authorizing a memorial in Washington to those who died in the “unprecedented imperial Communist holocaust” that began in 1917. It is a memorial long overdue. And it is well-suited to Washington, the capital of the Free World and the headquarters of what President Kennedy called the “long twilight struggle” against the totalitarians of the Left. When completed, the Victims of Communism Memorial will include a museum documenting the crimes committed by the disciples of Marx and Lenin; original artifacts from the bitter night of Communist brutality (a piece of the Berlin Wall, a cell from the “Hanoi Hilton”); and a database preserving the names of those wiped out in history’s greatest slaughter. Or at least as many of those names as can be identified. It is impossible that we shall ever know them all. Every one of the hundreds of thousands of Cossacks butchered on Lenin’s orders in 1919? Every Miskito Indian killed in Nicaragua under the Sandinistas? Every Chinese peasant, all 2 million-plus of them, obliterated during Mao Zedong’s “land reform” in the early 1950s? Impossible. For pure murderous evil, there has never been a force to compare with Communism. The Nazis didn’t come close. The Holocaust was uniquely malignant – never before or since did one people construct a vast industry of death for the sole purpose of rounding up and destroying every single member of another people. But the Nazis exterminated 11 million innocents; the Communist death toll surpasses 100 million. Nazi power lasted from 1933 to 1945. The Communist nightmare began in November 1917, and continues to this day. Savagery has always been a hallmark of Communism. It is an ideology that requires the destruction of human beings. “We have never rejected terror in principle,” wrote Lenin in 1901, “nor can we do so.” Half a century later, even as he denounced the extremes to which his predecessors went, Nikita Khrushchev vowed that the terror so esteemed by Lenin would go on. “The questioning of Stalin’s terror,” he cautioned the Twentieth Party Congress in 1956, “may lead to the questioning of terror in general. But Bolshevism believes in the use of terror.” Not long afterward, Khrushchev sent 3,000 Soviet tanks to crush the Hungarian freedom fighters. Communism equals murder. Everywhere. Always. In Ukraine, for example, where 7 million people were starved to death on the Kremlin’s orders. “If you go now to the Ukraine or the North Caucuses,” wrote British journalist Malcolm Muggeridge in 1933, “exceedingly beautiful countries and formerly amongst the most fertile in the world, you will find them like a desert; . . . no livestock or horses; villages deserted; peasants famished, often their bodies swollen, unutterably wretched.” Farmers who took grain or vegetables from their own land were shot. Dead bodies littered the streets of Kharkov, the capital. “It was,” an eyewitness later recalled, “as if the Black Death had passed through.” Communism equaled murder in Ethiopia, where Mengistu Haile Mariam became dictator in 1977 and embarked on what he called his “Red Terror.” Tens of thousands were massacred, including the graduating seniors of almost every high school in Addis Ababa. Communism equaled murder in North Vietnam as far back as 1945, when Ho Chi Minh resolved to annihilate his Nationalist rivals. “It was appalling,” recorded the historian Lucien Bodard. “Thousands, maybe tens of thousands of men had been liquidated . . .. The intention was that horror and dread should extinguish the last trace of respect for them among the masses: Their execution had to be both shameful and terrifying. That was the reason for the mass executions of hundreds at once, the fields of prisoners buried alive, the harrows dragged over men buried up to the neck.” Communism equaled murder in Tibet, where Mao’s campaign to extirpate Buddhist culture turned 1.2 million Tibetans into corpses. It equaled murder in gentle Cambodia, where the bloodlust of the Khmer Rouge vaporized one-third of the nation in less than four years. It equaled murder in Cuba, in East Germany, in Afghanistan. From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic – murder. In the Gulag and the laogai – murder. At Tienanmen Square – murder. In the Korean War and the Vietnam War, in the forest of Katyn and the dungeons of the Lubyanka – murder. One hundred million victims of Communism. And those are only the victims who were slain. It doesn’t include those who were maimed or driven mad. Those whose lives went dark when a loved one was butchered. Those who spun out their years in potato queues, in vodka stupors, in daily fear. It doesn’t include those who wasted 30 years as slaves in Siberia. The boat people who flung themselves into the South China Sea. The stifled poets, the gagged priests, the tormented refuseniks, the exiled democrats. Rarely do we think of them, or of the hundred million. We forget how pathologically evil Communism has been, or why we poured so much blood and treasure into fighting the Cold War. It is to correct that amnesia that the Victims of Communism Memorial will be built. <END The above text is also mirrored at these sites: http://www.gulag.hu/jacoby.htm (Archived locally as: gulag_jacoby) http://www.sid-ss.net/ref/vocmf.htm (Archived locally as: vocmf) http://www.globalspin.org/million_dead_russia.html "100 Million People Killed by Communism Boston Globe Report: 100 Million People Killed by Communism "For pure murderous evil, there has never been a force to compare with Communism. The Nazis didn’t come close… <END (Archived locally as: 100_Million) http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34512e35.18434148%40news.phoe… "Communism is Not Dead. They Are Hiding Amongst Us!" [Read entire post and be advised the links were active at the time of posting.] EXCERPT Examine very carefully the death tolls that are listed at this site for 20th Century Genocide: http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TCEH/Slouch_power4.html (Link June 22, 2003. Archived locally as: Slouch_power4) I will try to reproduce some below: Civilians Killed by Governments in the Twentieth Century: Top Twenty Regimes Location (Regime) Deaths Era Soviet Union (Communists) 61,900,000 1917-1990 China (Communists) 35,200,000 1949-present Germany (Nazi Third Reich) 20,900,000 1933-1945 China (Kuomintang) 10,400,000 1928-1949 Japan (Imperial-Fascist) 6,000,000 1936-1945 China (Communist Guerrillas) 3,500,000 1923-1948 Cambodia (Communists) 2,000,000 1975-1979 Turkey ("Young Turks") 1,900,000 1909-1917 Vietnam (Communists) 1,700,000 1945-present North Korea (Communists) 1,700,000 1948-present Poland (Communists) 1,600,000 1945-1948 Pakistan (Yahya Khan) 1,500,000 1971 Mexico (Porfiriato) 1,400,000 1900-1920 Yugoslavia (Communists) 1,100,000 1944-1990 Russia (Czarist) 1,100,000 1900-1917 Turkey (Mustafa Kemal "Ataturk")900,000 1918-1923 United Kingdom (Constitutional) 800,000 1900-present Portugal (Fascist) 700,000 1926-1975 Croatia (Fascists) 700,000 1941-1945 Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000 1965-present The top twenty regimes have killed–roughly– 156,000,000 civilians in this century. [The majority of the victims being "victims" of Communism!] Also see: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34ec5e41.82304357%40news.phoe… —-end—- Additional material: http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Bio/Marx-Karl/Granat/1.html (Link active June 25, 2003. Archived locally as: Granat_1) [...] "In the spring of 1847 Marx and Engels joined a secret propaganda society called the Communist League [11]; they took a prominent part in the League’s Second Congress (London, November 1847), at whose request they drew up the celebrated Communist Manifesto, which appeared in February 1848. With the clarity and brilliance of genius, this work outlines a new world-conception, consistent with materialism, which also embrace the realm of social life; dialectics, as the most comprehensive and profound doctrine of development; the theory of the class struggle and of the world-historic revolutionary role of the proletariat — the creator of a new, communist society." http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Bio/Marx-Karl/Granat/0.html (Link … read more »