Talk Cancer

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"duck" <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:UsZT7.33858$4e3.4276943@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message > news:9vpl7f$gdjus$1@ID-17771.news.dfncis.de… > > Michelle, I’m sure you’d be welcome, why in the world wouldn’t you be? > Or > > you could always email him, it’s a lot cheaper.  However, early Thursday > he > > leaves for Boston, to spend the holidays with his friend who has brain > > cancer.  Said friend’s tumor is shrinking now by the way, he just told me > > today, and he sounds like a huge weight has been lifted from him, which of > > course it has.  So yes, he’s ok, feeling very good right now in fact. > I am so glad he is OK, I was getting more and more worried about him. > The last e-mail I sent him Lily bounced back, but not in the normal way, > either immediately or after a few minutes, it was about 5-6 days later.  I > didn’t know if there was something wrong with his ISP or he had changed his > address, I got really paranoid and assumed I had done something pretty > terrible, but then I thought it would be awful to lose his friendship purely > through paranoia when it might not be the case.

Michelle, I know for a fact that he has always valued your friendship. His ISP was purchased by a larger one, but that was a while ago, about June I think.  Did you ever have a new one for him?  Does the one you have have a number as part of it? He probably meant to let people know his new one, but the switch coincided with the time his friend discovered the cancer and had brain surgery, and he was so distracted he may have overlooked some people.  Then I also seem to recall that you had an incomunicado period in there somewhere, and he mentioned that mail to you was bouncing back.  I don’t recall exactly when that was, but I think it was after the ISP change.. > Perhaps you could ask him to drop me a line at this address (it is valid) > and I’ll check his e-mail is the same as the one I have.

I will Michelle, but he’ll be in Boston until after New Years. > Give him my best Lily, and tell him I am really pleased to hear about his > friend. > Michelle

I will if he calls from Boston. Would it be alright if I email you?  Maybe I can help clear this up.  And I could tell you a bit about my recent trip to San Francisco (if you catch my drift). Lily

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"TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message

news:9vpl7f$gdjus$1@ID-17771.news.dfncis.de… > Michelle, I’m sure you’d be welcome, why in the world wouldn’t you be? Or > you could always email him, it’s a lot cheaper.  However, early Thursday he > leaves for Boston, to spend the holidays with his friend who has brain > cancer.  Said friend’s tumor is shrinking now by the way, he just told me > today, and he sounds like a huge weight has been lifted from him, which of > course it has.  So yes, he’s ok, feeling very good right now in fact.

I am so glad he is OK, I was getting more and more worried about him. The last e-mail I sent him Lily bounced back, but not in the normal way, either immediately or after a few minutes, it was about 5-6 days later.  I didn’t know if there was something wrong with his ISP or he had changed his address, I got really paranoid and assumed I had done something pretty terrible, but then I thought it would be awful to lose his friendship purely through paranoia when it might not be the case. Perhaps you could ask him to drop me a line at this address (it is valid) and I’ll check his e-mail is the same as the one I have. Give him my best Lily, and tell him I am really pleased to hear about his friend. Michelle

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"SonicFish" <sonicf…@esoteria.co.ukNOSPAM> wrote in message

news:9vohek$c72$1@knossos.btinternet.com… > does he not post any more? > Is he doin OK? > /me been away too long > grooves > SonicFish

He’s ok Snik, just hasn’t been posting much lately.  And he’s leaving his ‘puter for a couple of weeks, so won’t be around at all ’til the new year, but he’s good. Lily > duck <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:iRJT7.33960$pU3.3891968@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com… > > "TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message > > news:9vij66$fdup9$1@ID-17771.news.dfncis.de… > > Lily, are you in contact with SP?  Is he OK? > > I would phone him but I am unsure I would be welcome. > > Michelle

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"TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message

news:9vij66$fdup9$1@ID-17771.news.dfncis.de… Lily, are you in contact with SP?  Is he OK? I would phone him but I am unsure I would be welcome. Michelle

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does he not post any more? Is he doin OK? /me been away too long grooves SonicFish ********************************************** duck <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:iRJT7.33960$pU3.3891968@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message > news:9vij66$fdup9$1@ID-17771.news.dfncis.de… > Lily, are you in contact with SP?  Is he OK? > I would phone him but I am unsure I would be welcome. > Michelle

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"duck" <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:iRJT7.33960$pU3.3891968@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com… > Lily, are you in contact with SP?  Is he OK? > I would phone him but I am unsure I would be welcome. > Michelle

Michelle, I’m sure you’d be welcome, why in the world wouldn’t you be?   Or you could always email him, it’s a lot cheaper.  However, early Thursday he leaves for Boston, to spend the holidays with his friend who has brain cancer.  Said friend’s tumor is shrinking now by the way, he just told me today, and he sounds like a huge weight has been lifted from him, which of course it has.  So yes, he’s ok, feeling very good right now in fact. Lily — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 – Release Date: 12/12/2001

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"duck" <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:sI6T7.16385$pU3.1918995@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message > news:9vikut$eol0m$1@ID-17771.news.dfncis.de… > > To me it’s not "normal" and I’m with you Michelle, I hate it.  Here it > seems > > to depend on one’s family background, in some families lip kissing starts > at > > birth.  I try to hide when I see those kids coming, as the kiss usually > > comes with a mixture of dirt, grape jam and snot which I find even more > > annoying than the usual saliva.  In other families kids are kissed on the > > forehead and adults on the cheek, in others it’s mostly hugs, while in > > others there is barely any physical contact. > Yes, children can be remarkably sticky.  I have a very strict policy NEVER > to reject affection.  I know how it feels and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone > else,  so whoever, whatever, wherever, sticky or slobbery, I’m afraid I do > my best to welcome it.  99 times out of a 100 it is MORE than welcome. But > I do get the odd time when I find it uncomfortable.  Like hey all I did was > buy you a Christmas present, one giant hug and 5 sloppy kisses is OTT!!! > But even so, I have never pushed anyone away.

Nor have I.  If my efforts to hide when I see it coming fail, then I welcome it, or try to. > > My own immediate family fell pretty much into the latter catigory, but > there > > were kissers in the large extended family, and I cringed when I had to > deal > > with it, and always felt they were what turned me off kissing (except for > > lovers of course).  On the other hand, I had to learn to accept and give > > hugs, which I now love.  There is nothing quite like a big sincere hug. > Yes, and not just a hello, goodbye kind of hug either.  The kind of hug > that’s in the middle of the day when you are half way through the washing up > or doing a bank reconciliation.  Or maybe having a few beers with a friend. > Or maybe when someone is feeling down.

Yes, a spontaneous hug like that  means a lot more than  those more "formal" hello-goodbye-thank-you hugs and kisses.  Or rather it can.  But in some cases the hello-goodbye hugs are pretty nice too, when they’re sincere. > I am always very concerned when I meet someone that doesn’t have much > affection in their lives, particularly when I know that they feel things > deeply.

Yes.  And those people have so much affection to give.  Very sad if no one wants to receive it. Affection to me is never a "feeling" as such, and some people find > it hard to appreciate that.  What you feel for someone when you look into > their eyes or touch their hand is very different from the blatant expression > of a hug or a friendly kiss.  Just an accidental touch from someone you > really care for can send you into cloud 9 of emotion and feeling.  To me, a > hug is very different from the feelings I have inside.  It’s an expression > of love and caring, but I feel those emotions much stronger if I just watch > someone I care about sleeping, or see them get confused about their socks > and silly things like that.

Yes, I agree totally. > Anyway Lily, I am not sticky, dirty or covered in snot, but a worse offense > I think.  I probably tinge a little of beer. > {{{BBB*hug*BBB}}} > so nice warm beer huggy to you. > Michelle

Nothing wrong with beer-tinged hug, in fact I like them.  I have no beer handy, so please accept a warm but sleepy {{{{hug}}}} back. Jeez, what a lot of hugging is going on around here lately.  Nice. Lily — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 – Release Date: 12/12/2001

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"TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message > My own immediate family fell pretty much into the latter catigory, but there > were kissers in the large extended family, and I cringed when I had to deal > with it…..

My solution when encountering such people is to pretend to have a cold.   As they approach i advise them that they don’t really want my germs – works a treat

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"TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message

news:9vikut$eol0m$1@ID-17771.news.dfncis.de… > To me it’s not "normal" and I’m with you Michelle, I hate it.  Here it seems > to depend on one’s family background, in some families lip kissing starts at > birth.  I try to hide when I see those kids coming, as the kiss usually > comes with a mixture of dirt, grape jam and snot which I find even more > annoying than the usual saliva.  In other families kids are kissed on the > forehead and adults on the cheek, in others it’s mostly hugs, while in > others there is barely any physical contact.

Yes, children can be remarkably sticky.  I have a very strict policy NEVER to reject affection.  I know how it feels and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone else,  so whoever, whatever, wherever, sticky or slobbery, I’m afraid I do my best to welcome it.  99 times out of a 100 it is MORE than welcome.  But I do get the odd time when I find it uncomfortable.  Like hey all I did was buy you a Christmas present, one giant hug and 5 sloppy kisses is OTT!!! But even so, I have never pushed anyone away. > My own immediate family fell pretty much into the latter catigory, but there > were kissers in the large extended family, and I cringed when I had to deal > with it, and always felt they were what turned me off kissing (except for > lovers of course).  On the other hand, I had to learn to accept and give > hugs, which I now love.  There is nothing quite like a big sincere hug.

Yes, and not just a hello, goodbye kind of hug either.  The kind of hug that’s in the middle of the day when you are half way through the washing up or doing a bank reconciliation.  Or maybe having a few beers with a friend. Or maybe when someone is feeling down. I am always very concerned when I meet someone that doesn’t have much affection in their lives, particularly when I know that they feel things deeply.  Affection to me is never a "feeling" as such, and some people find it hard to appreciate that.  What you feel for someone when you look into their eyes or touch their hand is very different from the blatant expression of a hug or a friendly kiss.  Just an accidental touch from someone you really care for can send you into cloud 9 of emotion and feeling.  To me, a hug is very different from the feelings I have inside.  It’s an expression of love and caring, but I feel those emotions much stronger if I just watch someone I care about sleeping, or see them get confused about their socks and silly things like that. Anyway Lily, I am not sticky, dirty or covered in snot, but a worse offense I think.  I probably tinge a little of beer. {{{BBB*hug*BBB}}} so nice warm beer huggy to you. Michelle

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snot is worse then beer. Beer is almost perfume…snot is like disease encrusted grease or something. I’m shy of kssing. I think hugging and touching is major cool. Maybe with a hot mamma kissing can work good. But I’ve had good relationships where the kissing thing didn’t work out so good so we didn’t do that much. Course……other things were done….. This is a family rated channel we have here right? Damo http://www.netword.com/Damodara’s.Passage http://community.webtv.net/damodara/MyStoryasIseeit

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"duck" <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:yNxS7.6428$ia7.906558@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Everyone says I am less affectionate since I have come back from my sojourn > in the skies. > I am having to consciously think now whether a hug or a squeeze or a kiss is > in order. > I have never felt really happy about kissing friends on the lips, > particularly women.  I gave the secretary a little Christmas pressie and she > threw her arms around me and hugged me and bother it, I felt awkward. > I don’t think you can underestimate the power and importance of affection. > We have paranoia.  We think possibly that no one could possibly want a hug > from us. > But believe me, they do. > If in doubt, give a hug. > No one is going to say f*** you if you care. > This world is full of sad people, people with failed marriages, loneliness, > heartache.  Reaching out to whatever solace is there and available is > sometimes the only comfort we have. > I have always valued affection, kind words………..people can die for the > lack of it. > Why do people commit suicide……..isn’t it because they sincerely feel > that no one cares?  That their existence can be wiped out and that is more > important than the pain that is left behind to those who cared? > The frozen wastelands exist in all our hearts because basically we are alone > in the concept of our identity and in crossing the final barrier of death. > Don’t remember September 11th and the rapes and the > corruption…………just remember the kind words people say, the kind > things people do, and when you do cross that barrier to the final frontier > remember something of the good you leave behind. > There is simply no point if you don’t. > Forgive me if this message is too serious for this newsgroup.  No doubt I > will be accused of speaking a load of bullshit and being insincere.  What > the hell……………..<hugs> all round. > Michelle

arrrr go on, have some nice stale bread on me. — kes

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(((((((huggies))))))) (((((((snuggies)))))) to all. HAY!!! LIME! Hiya! I see ya sitting back there. Buy my Christmas CD. Love to all. Damodara http://www.netword.com/Damodara’s.Passage http://community.webtv.net/damodara/MyStoryasIseeit

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"duck" <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:pxLS7.5655$pU3.616588@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com… <snip> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a real problem with lips.  The only person I feel comfortable with > lip contact would be a lover but family and friends keep aiming for my lips > and sometimes it’s just impossible to divert them.  I feel kind of weird > kissing my boss’s little brother on the lips and god, even weirder the > secretary……….why?  Why do they want this?  Does it make you MORE of a > friend if you can kiss on the lips? > To me there is a defining line, hugs, affection, squeezes, kisses on the > cheek……..that to me is friendship. > I can’t stand all this slobbering about with friends. > Is it me?  Is it "normal" and "socially acceptable" to kiss friends on the > lips? > Please let me know and I might maybe have to redefine my strategy and get > used to a bit of slobbering if it’s normal. > Michelle

To me it’s not "normal" and I’m with you Michelle, I hate it.  Here it seems to depend on one’s family background, in some families lip kissing starts at birth.  I try to hide when I see those kids coming, as the kiss usually comes with a mixture of dirt, grape jam and snot which I find even more annoying than the usual saliva.  In other families kids are kissed on the forehead and adults on the cheek, in others it’s mostly hugs, while in others there is barely any physical contact. My own immediate family fell pretty much into the latter catigory, but there were kissers in the large extended family, and I cringed when I had to deal with it, and always felt they were what turned me off kissing (except for lovers of course).  On the other hand, I had to learn to accept and give hugs, which I now love.  There is nothing quite like a big sincere hug. Lily — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 – Release Date: 12/11/2001

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"duck" <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:SPLS7.5785$pU3.640178@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message > news:9vepav$eu8rk$1@ID-17771.news.dfncis.de… > > No need for forgiveness, because you’re right.  I’m around, so I’ll take > one > > of those hugs, with thanks, I love hugs > > from people I like.  And Michelle, a big {{{{hug}}}} to you. > > Lily > Thank you.  It was well received, I only used a bit of a it and have kept > the balance in my drawer for those long, long nights when sleep eludes me. > It will be nice at about 4 a.m. in the pits of despair to open the drawer > and find what is left of a hug.  I used { } much, so I still have {{   }} > left. > Michelle

Good.  It was meant to be a very large hug, so there should be plenty left over for those times. Lily — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 – Release Date: 12/11/2001

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"AllSummer Bin LarginIt" <allsummerbinlargi…@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:9vg3t7$fa95v$1@ID-29083.news.dfncis.de… > Nah, I’d rather have a tiger.   Now they are lovely animals.   Such power, > grace and they DEMAND respect!   I have a friend who has tigers (lucky > thing).

Tigers are something else, so too all the cat family, leopards, cheethahs, panthers.  Beautiful creatures. My ideal pet would be a rabbit.  I only have a small flat and a little rabbit hopping around would suit me fine.  I think you can house train rabbits and I am seriously thinking of getting one.  Ducks are out, unless I moved to the country and had some land. > What’s "normal" ??    In my book you and I are normal.

Hmmm.  Is that what we are aiming for?  To be "normal"?  Vive la difference I always say, as long as it’s not me!!!!! Michelle

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<hugs> =)

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"Hen@ndchick" <nos…@spamnospam.com> wrote in message

news:ihsn1ucbqh15svepaml5jgktvboteb01u0@4ax.com… > OMG people kiss each other on the lips where you live!  YUCK!  I don’t even like > to kiss my lovers on the lips.

Yeah, even my Mum does it to me (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!) on Friday I must have ingested 6-7 different samples of human saliva what with pressie giving at work and the company closedown and all the goodbyes, have a lovely Christmas.  Oh my goodness, what kind of hell with lips looming out of the darkness all night long!!!!! As for lovers, that I can manage.  I don’t find that unpleasant. Anyhow, come here hen……..give us a kiss!!!!!! Michelle

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"Sandie" <anon-25…@anon.twwells.com> wrote in message

news:9vei5f$2l0i$1@server.twwells.com… > Thanks Michelle. <hugs back>

endless hugs for you

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"duck" <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > >  I have a real difficulty > > with "hugging and kissing" of people (other than my wife I might add!) – > Just as well!!!!!!  ;)

> Personally I can’t stand > dogs, why anyone would want a dog defeats me entirely.

I have no idea, but I guess each to their own.   I just wish they would keep their animals out of my way (preferably locked in a cupboard in their own home lol) > I just loathe it > when I am walking down the street and they come up to me and start sniffing > me.  I honestly could just kick the damn things…….

I’m glad I’m not the only one. > …I would rather have a cow for a pet.

Nah, I’d rather have a tiger.   Now they are lovely animals.   Such power, grace and they DEMAND respect!   I have a friend who has tigers (lucky thing). > I have a real problem with lips.  The only person I feel comfortable with > lip contact would be a lover but family and friends keep aiming for my lips > and sometimes it’s just impossible to divert them.

I know what you mean.   It really bugs me. > I feel kind of weird > kissing my boss’s little brother on the lips and god, even weirder the > secretary……….why?  Why do they want this?

I don’t know, but I wish they didn’t. > Does it make you MORE of a > friend if you can kiss on the lips?

Not in my book…. > Is it me?  Is it "normal" and "socially acceptable" to kiss friends on the > lips? > Please let me know and I might maybe have to redefine my strategy and get > used to a bit of slobbering if it’s normal.

What’s "normal" ??    In my book you and I are normal.

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"TigerLily" <nos…@excite.com> wrote in message

news:9vepav$eu8rk$1@ID-17771.news.dfncis.de… > No need for forgiveness, because you’re right.  I’m around, so I’ll take one > of those hugs, with thanks, I love hugs > from people I like.  And Michelle, a big {{{{hug}}}} to you. > Lily

Thank you.  It was well received, I only used a bit of a it and have kept the balance in my drawer for those long, long nights when sleep eludes me. It will be nice at about 4 a.m. in the pits of despair to open the drawer and find what is left of a hug.  I used { } much, so I still have {{   }} left. Michelle

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"AllSummer Bin LarginIt" <allsummerbinlargi…@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:9vfe4q$eupo0$1@ID-29083.news.dfncis.de… > I understand exactly where you are coming from.     I have a real difficulty > with "hugging and kissing" of people (other than my wife I might add!) –

Just as well!!!!!!  ;) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> whether friends or family.    I have put this down to the fact that I don’t > like people invading my "personal space".    It’s a bit like during the > Falklands war when the British government imposed a 2 mile (IIRC) exclusion > zone around the islands.    If someone invades my exclusion zone without my > consent I feel like firing a bloody great big missile at them    I reckon > this feeling is what makes me dislike children and dogs (they all have a > habit of invading your space).   My Mum has just bought a dog and last time > I went to see her the damned thing jumped up at me.   It really freaked me > out as it invaded my space and touched my face with it’s paws. Thankfully > most people I know understand this, but you get the occasional person who > doesn’t and it kind of winds me up!

I have a rule in life which is never to reject affection although I would agree that kids and dogs are unaware of the line that is drawn between mutual caring and infringing on personal space.  Personally I can’t stand dogs, why anyone would want a dog defeats me entirely.  I just loathe it when I am walking down the street and they come up to me and start sniffing me.  I honestly could just kick the damn things but their owners let them get away with it "Isn’t he cute, isn’t he just lovely" no doubt they are thinking, some chance, I would rather have a cow for a pet. I have a real problem with lips.  The only person I feel comfortable with lip contact would be a lover but family and friends keep aiming for my lips and sometimes it’s just impossible to divert them.  I feel kind of weird kissing my boss’s little brother on the lips and god, even weirder the secretary……….why?  Why do they want this?  Does it make you MORE of a friend if you can kiss on the lips? To me there is a defining line, hugs, affection, squeezes, kisses on the cheek……..that to me is friendship. I can’t stand all this slobbering about with friends. Is it me?  Is it "normal" and "socially acceptable" to kiss friends on the lips? Please let me know and I might maybe have to redefine my strategy and get used to a bit of slobbering if it’s normal. Michelle

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"duck" <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:yNxS7.6428$ia7.906558@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Everyone says I am less affectionate since I have come back from my sojourn > in the skies. > I am having to consciously think now whether a hug or a squeeze or a kiss is > in order. > I have never felt really happy about kissing friends on the lips, > particularly women.  I gave the secretary a little Christmas pressie and she > threw her arms around me and hugged me and bother it, I felt awkward. > I don’t think you can underestimate the power and importance of affection. > We have paranoia.  We think possibly that no one could possibly want a hug > from us. > But believe me, they do. > If in doubt, give a hug. > No one is going to say f*** you if you care. > This world is full of sad people, people with failed marriages, loneliness, > heartache.  Reaching out to whatever solace is there and available is > sometimes the only comfort we have. > I have always valued affection, kind words………..people can die for the > lack of it. > Why do people commit suicide……..isn’t it because they sincerely feel > that no one cares?  That their existence can be wiped out and that is more > important than the pain that is left behind to those who cared? > The frozen wastelands exist in all our hearts because basically we are alone > in the concept of our identity and in crossing the final barrier of death. > Don’t remember September 11th and the rapes and the > corruption…………just remember the kind words people say, the kind > things people do, and when you do cross that barrier to the final frontier > remember something of the good you leave behind. > There is simply no point if you don’t. > Forgive me if this message is too serious for this newsgroup.  No doubt I > will be accused of speaking a load of bullshit and being insincere.  What > the hell……………..<hugs> all round. > Michelle

No need for forgiveness, because you’re right.  I’m around, so I’ll take one of those hugs, with thanks, I love hugs from people I like.  And Michelle, a big {{{{hug}}}} to you. Lily — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 – Release Date: 12/11/2001

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"duck" <some.d…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > I am having to consciously think now whether a hug or a squeeze or a kiss is > in order. > I have never felt really happy about kissing friends on the lips, > particularly women.  I gave the secretary a little Christmas pressie and she > threw her arms around me and hugged me and bother it, I felt awkward.

I understand exactly where you are coming from.     I have a real difficulty with "hugging and kissing" of people (other than my wife I might add!) – whether friends or family.    I have put this down to the fact that I don’t like people invading my "personal space".    It’s a bit like during the Falklands war when the British government imposed a 2 mile (IIRC) exclusion zone around the islands.    If someone invades my exclusion zone without my consent I feel like firing a bloody great big missile at them    I reckon this feeling is what makes me dislike children and dogs (they all have a habit of invading your space).   My Mum has just bought a dog and last time I went to see her the damned thing jumped up at me.   It really freaked me out as it invaded my space and touched my face with it’s paws.    Thankfully most people I know understand this, but you get the occasional person who doesn’t and it kind of winds me up!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -duck wrote: > Everyone says I am less affectionate since I have come back from my sojourn > in the skies. > I am having to consciously think now whether a hug or a squeeze or a kiss is > in order. > I have never felt really happy about kissing friends on the lips, > particularly women.  I gave the secretary a little Christmas pressie and she > threw her arms around me and hugged me and bother it, I felt awkward. > I don’t think you can underestimate the power and importance of affection. > We have paranoia.  We think possibly that no one could possibly want a hug > from us. > But believe me, they do. > If in doubt, give a hug. > No one is going to say f*** you if you care. > This world is full of sad people, people with failed marriages, loneliness, > heartache.  Reaching out to whatever solace is there and available is > sometimes the only comfort we have. > I have always valued affection, kind words………..people can die for the > lack of it. > Why do people commit suicide……..isn’t it because they sincerely feel > that no one cares?  That their existence can be wiped out and that is more > important than the pain that is left behind to those who cared? > The frozen wastelands exist in all our hearts because basically we are alone > in the concept of our identity and in crossing the final barrier of death. > Don’t remember September 11th and the rapes and the > corruption…………just remember the kind words people say, the kind > things people do, and when you do cross that barrier to the final frontier > remember something of the good you leave behind. > There is simply no point if you don’t. > Forgive me if this message is too serious for this newsgroup.  No doubt I > will be accused of speaking a load of bullshit and being insincere.  What > the hell……………..<hugs> all round. > Michelle

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Everyone says I am less affectionate since I have come back from my sojourn in the skies. I am having to consciously think now whether a hug or a squeeze or a kiss is in order. I have never felt really happy about kissing friends on the lips, particularly women.  I gave the secretary a little Christmas pressie and she threw her arms around me and hugged me and bother it, I felt awkward. I don’t think you can underestimate the power and importance of affection. We have paranoia.  We think possibly that no one could possibly want a hug from us. But believe me, they do. If in doubt, give a hug. No one is going to say f*** you if you care. This world is full of sad people, people with failed marriages, loneliness, heartache.  Reaching out to whatever solace is there and available is sometimes the only comfort we have. I have always valued affection, kind words………..people can die for the lack of it. Why do people commit suicide……..isn’t it because they sincerely feel that no one cares?  That their existence can be wiped out and that is more important than the pain that is left behind to those who cared? The frozen wastelands exist in all our hearts because basically we are alone in the concept of our identity and in crossing the final barrier of death. Don’t remember September 11th and the rapes and the corruption…………just remember the kind words people say, the kind things people do, and when you do cross that barrier to the final frontier remember something of the good you leave behind. There is simply no point if you don’t. Forgive me if this message is too serious for this newsgroup.  No doubt I will be accused of speaking a load of bullshit and being insincere.  What the hell……………..<hugs> all round. Michelle

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Ioannis, Are you a white supremist? Do you think there is something inherently special about being born a white man? Daniel

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I wish I could have a hug. I rarely get to hug anyone. LONELY sexually starved

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"Digital Devil IV" <digitaldevi…@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040314024308.03354.00001221@mb-m23.aol.com… > I wish I could have a hug. I rarely get to hug anyone. > LONELY > sexually starved

I’m just a bug But here is a hug Doesn’t cost much Doesn’t cost anything! Never ending supply Can’t buy them at the shops Here is another one <HUG> and here is………………………………………….    your reply

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Ο "Lisa Robertson" <l_robertson-no-s…@qvc.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα news:ZGFya3plbg==.854e183e4fefb682d091b74585af86fa@1079562599.nulluser.com… [snip] > I would hug you, but only if you shower at least twice a day, wear > deoderant and clean clothes, and wash and floss your teeth. > A nice cologne would be nice too.  I like a man who wears nice > cologne.

One thinks that if his dad had a little more money, he would have been born white, instead of a Chico. > Are you a negro?  Do you have large muscles?  I like men who > have the confidence to take what they want from life and not merely > accept what is given to them.

– Ioannis Galidakis http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/jgal/ —————————————— Eventually, _everything_ is understandable

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